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ind33d

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As a certified Cool Kid, how do I start using Arch Linux? I want to use my Steam Deck for everyday tasks as a flex

:shitposting:
 

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I came across this:

Asynchronous saving​


Many of you might not be aware that Factorio has support for saving your game in the background, without freezing while it does so. This feature is tucked away in the hidden settings and only works on macOS and Linux. This is one great example of taking advantage of a platform's features to benefit the game, which would not be available to us if we simply went through Proton.


Asynchronous saving works by using the fork syscall to essentially duplicate the game. The primary instance - the one you interact with - continues playing, but the newly forked child runs the saving process then exits on completion. I have used it for many years and have never had issues, but the setting remains hidden because there are a few unsolved problems with it and it requires a significant amount of RAM to work.


I would love to promote this feature away from its hidden status in 2.0. If you are playing on Linux or macOS, please enable asynchronous saving (ctrl+alt+click Settings -> "The rest" -> non-blocking-saving) and report any issues you find. I am particularly interested in reproducing a seemingly random freeze that occurs at the end of the process. Thank you in advance!

It's awesome when there are games made by developers with actual Linux experience.
 

ghardy

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I think they're trying to make the process of saving the game something that doesn't block the main thread.
 

Ol' Willy

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[sarcasm] And here I was thinking the lih-buh-ruls were the tolerant folk... [/sarcasm]

This was such a stupid thing to do. Especially as it was so ineffectual.
As if someones butthurt and saying things that sounded smart in their brains as - "removing woke content for you chuds by deleting whole repo hurrr hurrr hurrr" will do anything.
It seems like they just wanted to argue on the pull request comments, because it is hard to imagine someone being so delusional and out of touch...
Then again, it is woke activists.
Comment trees like these are one of the reasons not to touch any linux distro at any times

Unless it is called a Moonman Linux
 

Ol' Willy

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Why are you people still using Windows? Unless it's a 100% work machine (and your job is locked to Windows only solutions) I see no need to suffer this shit.
New Шindows always sucks. XP was lackluster at release, Vista sucked horribly, 8 was a mess...

As years pass by, they get better and more stable.

I spent last decade on W7, and it is remarkable hard to kill; I think I reinstalled it only once and even that time because bios update crashed it hard.

Choosing between latest Шindows and Linux I will choose Linux, choosing between older Шindows and Linux, I'll go with Шindows
 

ds

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it requires a significant amount of RAM to work
Lemme guess, the same amount of RAM as the game itself uses?

The only better solution would be to have a second machine to run the same game where it could save itself for all the money

No, fork uses copy on write so only pages modified by the game while the save is going on will need to be duplicated. Otherwise this wouldn't be less disruptive than normal in-process saves (unless implemented by retards that don't care about performance like the average Unity "programmer").
 

JC'sBarber

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I used to distrohop a TON until I came across EndeavourOS. Now I can't see myself switching to anything else for the foreseeable future, it fulfills all of my needs without compromise.
 

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I'll be switching to Linux once I upgrade my rig

Despite being quite recent, CachyOS has gained a great reputation for being simple for newcomers and possibly the best distro for gaming right now

Anyone here can verify this?
 

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The word on /g/fglt/ and /vg/lgg/, as mostly been that CachyOS is basically the best available Arch-based distro right now - just as versatile as any of the others, but the simplest one to use and also quite more stable and better suited for gaming

Hence why I'm asking here if anyone that as used Cachy can confirm this (seems too good to be true)

Because if indeed Cachy is truly this good, then why the fuck would I waste my time learning Arch or any other distro...
 

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The difference any Arch based distro will have is how it handles updates and if it offers any recovery tools and helper programs that are easy to use. Some are pure rolling release, some do semi-rolling, others are going the immutable way. The OS on the Steam Deck is immutable as I understand it, so if someone wants something like that then look into any immutable distro.

Personally I haven't used CatchyOS yet. Been meaning too (just like I've been meaning to switch to Fedora :roll: ). Not a big fan of Arch and less of its derivatives (the only one I can work on is EndeavourOS). CatchyOS uses KDE Plasma by default, which is a plus to me. The software and kernel optimizations are nice but I doubt a normie desktop user with a decent gaming rig would notice much of a difference. How it handles updates, do they have their own repos with their own software, what tools come pre-installed, those are the things I would look into if I were interested in making a switch.
 
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Inec0rn

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All CatchyOS or other "arch" based OS is, is flat Archlinux installation with someone else choosing some default apps and the desktop experience for you. Why not just install the base OS and install the software you want on your system?
 

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Watching the video, he talking about file explorer with tabs at 3:40 of the first video.

N4aKEj5.png


I wonder how much heavy such M$ spyware filesystem is.
 

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Because if indeed Cachy is truly this good, then why the fuck would I waste my time learning Arch or any other distro...

Stay away from boutique distros if you're new. Most of them are developed by a single developer or a small group with no funding. You'll be more likely to experience stability issues and be unable to get help when you need it. These kinds of distros tend to disappear in a year or two. I'd recommend starting with an established distro and getting comfortable with Linux before jumping into something like this.
 

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I'd recommend starting with an established distro and getting comfortable with Linux before jumping into something like this.
You would do well to heed this, even if you're someone experienced.
 

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These kinds of distros tend to disappear in a year or two. I'd recommend starting with an established distro and getting comfortable with Linux before jumping into something like this.
Ubuntu is good for the normie who wants to plug and play and not worry about Nvidia compatibility. When he gets tired of Ubuntu and realizes he wants more control, then he switches to Arch.
 

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The word on /g/fglt/ and /vg/lgg/, as mostly been that CachyOS is basically the best available Arch-based distro right now - just as versatile as any of the others, but the simplest one to use and also quite more stable and better suited for gaming

Hence why I'm asking here if anyone that as used Cachy can confirm this (seems too good to be true)

Because if indeed Cachy is truly this good, then why the fuck would I waste my time learning Arch or any other distro...

I just jumped to cachy from endeavour and it is noticeably faster. Like the improvement in general loading speeds for my games and especially for first time vulkan shader compilation sticks out like a sore thumb.
 

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