Game News BioWare listens to Mass Effect 3 Feedback

[Captain Shrek]

ME series has more C&C than many of the Codex's most beloved games. LMFAO

Choice : I want to be a dragooon!!!
Consequence: Volourn

 

[Wunderpurps]

ME series has more C&C than many of the Codex's most beloved games. LMFAO

Choice : I want to be a dragooon!!!
Consequence: Volourn

Being a dragon trapped in a woman's body is not a choice it's who you are from birth.

 

[Xor]

I half expected volourn to snap out of it and realize how much Bioware has ed but it looks like he's determined to volourn the hell out of the Codex.

 

[Jaesun]

Volo regurgitates the same crap has has been saying since 2004.

Volo, Volo never changes....

 

[CraigCWB]

Any time we get a good idea from fans... they're our audience. They keep us in business.

Been watching these guys throw their old fans under the bus in their never-ending quest for more easily amused fans for more than a decade now. It won't be long before they are making Sponge-Bob Squarepants games for toddlers. But I'm sure they will continue to ask that not-quite-lowest-common-denominator-yet audience for "good ideas". That's an important part of their core values. How else can their excellent development staff confront naysayers on the forums and justify saying things like "Look here you elitist fool who has been playing Bioware games since I was in grade school, our other more important fans tell us they want to be able to just click a button and sit there drooling on the keyboard while cool shit happens, and their opinions matter just as much as yours do, you pompous ass" and so on and so forth. Humbly, of course.

 

[Daemongar]

Any time we get a good idea from fans... they're our audience. They keep us in business.
Been watching these guys throw their old fans under the bus in their never-ending quest for more easily amused fans for more than a decade now.

What I am waiting for is for Bioware to spin off CRPG's to another small division, kind of like Black Isle or something. They probably won't do it, as they are egomaniacs and believe that ME3 is really what people want from rpgs, as if the rpg crowd needs to be led by the nose.

My hope is that they could create a smaller division that focuses on the core CRPG crowd, where 500k copies is a smash hit. If anything, it would look good on a resume.

 

[Volourn]

'KLook good on resume'.

I don't think BIO isw orried about how their resume looks cosndiering the 10+ years of their xistence they have multiple hits. LMFAO

You think BIO gives a shit what the Codex thinks since the Codex buys their games no matter what. LMFAO

 

[J1M]

Bioware listening to feedback based on the leak. Interesting. This means they condone piracy and are using it to improve their product, ala a focus group.

Good to know.

 

[Daemongar]

Real rpg's will look good on a resume in that, we all know where this Bioware/EA lovefest is leading, I don't need to spell it out. Even if there are some vestages of creativity left at Bioware, EA likes franchise software and will beat all creativity out of the remaining employees erring on the side of rapid development. Those that can hang on, will, but their reputations will suffer. Those who cannot, well, they'll be unemployed.

 

[Volourn]

The BIo dcos don't give a shit. Worst case scenario, theya re still multi millionaires. FFS, They could also make a new company (like all the other 'famous' developers). No biggies.

BIo's rep is fine. The fact that Codex dissaproves means abosulte shti espciailly as long as Coex continues to spend time and money on BIO and their games.

 

[Wunderpurps]

The BIo dcos don't give a shit. Worst case scenario, theya re still multi millionaires.

True, and I don't wish any ill on the docs but I look forward with great fondness to seeing dave gaider become an insane homeless man.

 

[CraigCWB]

BIo's rep is fine. The fact that Codex dissaproves means abosulte shti espciailly as long as Coex continues to spend time and money on BIO and their games.

I can remember when Bioware didn't even have a rep at all, before Baldur's Gate was released back in the days when Ray was personally spending a lot of time promoting it and trying to drum up interest in it on the internet. Do you think Ray forgot about that? You are claiming Ray doesn't care about the niche fans who gave him a shot when he was a nobody and who put Bioware where it is today? You know what? I'm not buying that. Unless Ray is a sociopath which is a vibe I never got from him, at some level he feels pretty guilty about what's happened to his company and how far it's drifted from its roots.

As for "continuing to spend time and money on BIO and their games" - I didn't buy or play Dragon Age II. I don't intend to buy or play Mass Effect III. I'm not a Bioware fan anymore. I'm a Bioware critic. And I'd rather read a book or watch TV than go through anymore cheezy railed interactive cinema. I used to have high hopes that somebody would see the light at Bioware and start making games that were sort of a fusion between what Bioware's traditionally good story telling and Bethesda's traditionally good open-world games. That's obviously never going to happen.

 

[Volourn]

"You are claiming Ray doesn't care about the niche fans who gave him a shot when he was a nobody and who put Bioware where it is today?"

The niche crowd didn't put BIO where they are did. the docs did.The docs did with their ahrd work, persisant marketing, and pursing of their goals. The niche crowd did not buy 2mil+ copies of BG1 or even the 500k MDK2 sold.

P.S. betehsda doesn't make anything good. Their 'open world games' are shit. FO:LV is way better than any 'open world shit' that Bethesda does.

P.S.S. Why should he feel guilty about his company moving away from his roots of medical software when he's made millions of dolalrds, and made some quality products that millions have enjoyed? Why should he go back to medical software/ WTF

 

[CraigCWB]

The niche crowd didn't put BIO where they are did. the docs did.The docs did with their ahrd work, persisant marketing, and pursing of their goals. The niche crowd did not buy 2mil+ copies of BG1 or even the 500k MDK2 sold.

Then who did? There was no mainstream market in 1998. Not for any games, and certainly not for RPGs.

Go play fuck-fuck games with somebody else.

 

[Volourn]

BIO did. BIO's success is 100% because of BIO. People who try to take credit for others' success is fukkin' bullshit. Pure and simple.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Docs.

Volourn, some might actually take you more seriously if you didn't sound like a token retarded game reviewer.

 

[Xor]

Volourn is worse than a game reviewer. It's like he doesn't have any grasp on reality whatsoever, or he's from some strange parallel world where companies become successful in a vacuum and making a product customers want has nothing to do with it.

 

[Volourn]

"making a product customers want has nothing to do with it."

hey, idiot, that's the point. BIO makes a product that customers want. That's 100% the dcos since until they joined EA theyw ere 100% in charge (and are still the main decision makers along with the rest of the EA board).

Theya re successful ebcause they make games people want to play. OMFG That's the entire fukkin' point. They aren't successful because people 'give them a chance' or 'feel sorry for them'; it's because they deliver the goods.

Fukkin' period.

The credit is 100% the docs. Period.

 

[atkom]

Biowares reputation has suffered immensely after their sell out to EA.
They became completely EA's bitches and to come out and flat out deny it is just really proff that they are.
The whole mess they are in now is basically, the moneybags who don't care about gaming nor do they know how to operate a console let alone a computer, tell them what to do.
Yes they seem to be egomaniacs, but in reality they just became EA's beta testing department for new ideas on how to make RPGs available to even my mother.
Problem is that this sort of "mass appeal" that they made into their religion is a double edged blade, because in their crusade for the ultimate 12 year old, attentionspan lacking new fanbase they burn the bridges behind them. I wonder how many fans they lost and gained.
DA2 was successful but it didn't really produce amazing sales numbers and on top of that pissed of a lot of fans.
I have no doubt ME3 will be financially a success but it may also not provide them with the ground breaking sales numbers they so wish to achieve.
I already see that it will be shit: tacked on MP mode, bad writing hidden behind childish sexual innuendo, CE with extra characters and missions ripped out of the game and of course the mandatory shit shoveling and lying that the two docs seem to be so comfortable doing nowadays.
All this for what? Searching for the ultimate bend over fanbase that COD and WOW has which might I add, they failed to reach so far.

I expect the next gen Bioware games to be visual novells with tentacle sex.

 

[Wunderpurps]

I expect the next gen Bioware games to be visual novells with tentacle sex.

Bioware won't exist in a couple years.

 

[atkom]

I expect the next gen Bioware games to be visual novells with tentacle sex.

Bioware won't exist in a couple years.

Well if TOR fails they certainly won't.
Tough I don't think it will be a complete disaster PR and Marketing will take care of that.
Then again if it is really true that they poured more money into production, than a Hollywood blockbuster, they are in for serious trouble, if for some reason they don't manage to keep the first wave of mmo junkies on for years to come.
I of course believe the rumors about excedingly high costs.
I think this was the reason to release DA2 in such atrocious condition(that it overshadowed all of Bioware's games) you could basically smell tha lack of financial investment in it.
They probably didn't have enough money to throw at it, not with ME3 being around the corner and TOR eating up money like a WW2 tank consumes gasoline.(or better said EA didn't want to throw more money at them)

 

[SCO]

I'm already preparing my bio going away party.

 

[torpid]

The BIo dcos don't give a shit. Worst case scenario, theya re still multi millionaires. FFS, They could also make a new company (like all the other 'famous' developers). No biggies.

BIo's rep is fine. The fact that Codex dissaproves means abosulte shti espciailly as long as Coex continues to spend time and money on BIO and their games.

So now Volourn isn't even defending Bioware games, he's shilling for the people in charge. Why are you so invested in their personal success, which won't do you any good and has nothing to do with the quality of their games? "lol I'm playing shit games but at least I'm making lots of money for the doctors suck it haters r00fles!" You're like the ideal braindead consumer who's emotionally invested in a company and cares more about their wealth and success, which he enjoys vicariously, than about his own entertainment. "My hard-earned money is going to make them rich, take that codex!" Well ok.

 

[Andyman Messiah]

Volourn.

 

[Volourn]

"So now Volourn isn't even defending Bioware games, he's shilling for the people in charge. Why are you so invested in their personal success, which won't do you any good and has nothing to do with the quality of their games? "lol I'm playing shit games but at least I'm making lots of money for the doctors suck it haters r00fles!" You're like the ideal braindead consumer who's emotionally invested in a company and cares more about their wealth and success, which he enjoys vicariously, than about his own entertainment. "My hard-earned money is going to make them rich, take that codex!" Well ok.
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If I were so personally invested in BIO's success I'd buy all their games right? I am certainly not paying $150 for KOTOR MMO.

Besdies, why is the Codex so invested in BIO's failure and 'eventual' closure? Hypocrites.


P.S. According to EA, KOTOR MMO only needs half a million subscribers to get even and a million to turn a good profit.


P.S.S. Of course, BIO is EA's 'bitches'... they are fukkin' EA. They are EA BIO EDM. Period. The dcos are also a huge part of EA consideirng they are part of the board that make decisions effecting all of EA as well as BIO.


P.S.S.S. I 'defend' the dcos because people claim they are scum when that's just silly. People claim they betrayed their 'roots' which is also fukkin' silly since the roots people whine about it is rpgs yet the docs' roots is medical software and their first game wans't even fukkin' a RPG. People also don't want to give the docs credit for their and their company's success when theya re 100% responsible for that success. Period.

But, hey, I hiope the hypocritical bashers enjoy their $100 copy of KOTOR MMO 9or their theft of it) as I won't be.


"like the ideal braindead consumer who's emotionally invested in a company and cares more about their wealth and success, which he enjoys vicariously, than about his own entertainment."

As above, that's bullshit. I only buy BIO games that I think will entetrain me. I have not bought MDK2, SS, S:RPG, tons of DLCs, nor do I plan to pick up KOTOR MMO. So, if really cared about their success so personally why haven't I bought those? Huh?

Your logic is stupid and your breath stinks too!!