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Bots make Banana game 2nd most played game on Steam

Iucounu

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If an indie "game" can become this successful with the help of bots, rest assured AAA games can manipulate the charts with bots too...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_(2024_video_game)

some players have been able to run large numbers of alternate accounts simultaneously to maximize profit.​
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the significant botting problems lead to inflate player counts — a lead developer stated that around two-thirds of players were bots in early June ... becoming the 2nd most played game on Steam
 

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Weren't there allegations that Amazon let bots infest Lost Ark to inflate their player counter? I know the player count for it was infamously static (doesn't drop at night etc.).
 

Tyranicon

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I'm not a lawyer, but if you're using these kinds of stats to entice/appease investors in your totally not floundering game company, is that some kind of fraud?
 

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I'm not a lawyer, but if you're using these kinds of stats to entice/appease investors in your totally not floundering game company, is that some kind of fraud?
Probably. You can't get money from bots.
 

Atrachasis

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To be honest, people writing bots to "play" this "game" for them makes more sense to me than the fact that said "game" exists and might actually be "played" by actual human beings.

Oh wait: "human" beings.
 

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I'm not a lawyer, but if you're using these kinds of stats to entice/appease investors in your totally not floundering game company, is that some kind of fraud?
there's is a whole other scam going on with the game, I suggest checking out their steam forum

it's apparently being advertised as a way to make money for players, hence the many bots
 

Tyranicon

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I'm not a lawyer, but if you're using these kinds of stats to entice/appease investors in your totally not floundering game company, is that some kind of fraud?
there's is a whole other scam going on with the game, I suggest checking out their steam forum

it's apparently being advertised as a way to make money for players, hence the many bots
Of course it's something to do with skins.

It's like NFT's even more retarded younger brother.

Edit: actually, older, since it's been around awhile.

:deathclaw:
 

OttoQuitmarck

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I'm not a lawyer, but if you're using these kinds of stats to entice/appease investors in your totally not floundering game company, is that some kind of fraud?
Probably. You can't get money from bots.
Oh you definitely can in the case of this game. The reason they bot is to get "bananas", to try and get the expensive ones and sell those on the steam market. Whenever such a banana is sold the developer and steam get a percentage of the transaction. So botting quite literally earns the developer more money.

For the record there's literally 10 million transactions a day for this game. Developer earns at least a cent (depending on the currency of the seller/buyer) for every transaction. So he's making ridiculous amounts of money. It's insane.
 

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I'm not a lawyer, but if you're using these kinds of stats to entice/appease investors in your totally not floundering game company, is that some kind of fraud?
Probably. You can't get money from bots.
Oh you definitely can in the case of this game. The reason they bot is to get "bananas", to try and get the expensive ones and sell those on the steam market. Whenever such a banana is sold the developer and steam get a percentage of the transaction. So botting quite literally earns the developer more money.

For the record there's literally 10 million transactions a day for this game. Developer earns at least a cent (depending on the currency of the seller/buyer) for every transaction. So he's making ridiculous amounts of money. It's insane.
You mean gold farming? Sanctioned by the devs? Oh god
 

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You mean gold farming? Sanctioned by the devs? Oh god
he means selling it for real money.

gold farmers do exist in other games and make a living selling gold for real money, but it's usually frowned upon and they get banned. In this case, will Valve shut the game down or allow this ponzi scheme to continue?
 

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he means selling it for real money.
I know. I'm surprised the banana devs are monetizing old school gold farming instead of using microtransactions. Then I saw the inflated player count and thought "oh right, they're defrauding people." It's scummy garbage.
 

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I'm not a lawyer, but if you're using these kinds of stats to entice/appease investors in your totally not floundering game company, is that some kind of fraud?
Probably. You can't get money from bots.
Oh you definitely can in the case of this game. The reason they bot is to get "bananas", to try and get the expensive ones and sell those on the steam market. Whenever such a banana is sold the developer and steam get a percentage of the transaction. So botting quite literally earns the developer more money.

For the record there's literally 10 million transactions a day for this game. Developer earns at least a cent (depending on the currency of the seller/buyer) for every transaction. So he's making ridiculous amounts of money. It's insane.
What the fuck? Who are the people BUYING this shit (I mean the market items)? It would be a shitty way of money laundering if you lose a ton of money in the process.
 
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Tyranicon

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This dude or dudes literally made millions off a barebones zero effort Unity game and some math.

At this point I don't even blame them, that's an incredible accomplishment.

However the game is an indictment against humanity.
 

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he means selling it for real money.
That's what gold farming is. The term comes from mmos, where Chinese sweat shops would "farm" the game for in-game currency (usually "gold") and then sell it to players for real cash. Gold farming has hugely declined as a result of microtransactions, since devs realized they can just sell in-game currency directly to players in exchange for real cash.

I'm surprised the banana devs are monetizing old school gold farming instead of using microtransactions. Then I saw the inflated player count and thought "oh right, they're defrauding people."

It's scummy garbage.
thanks but I know what gold farming is. Farming doesn't mean selling, it just means "making" gold. I think it's only normies who think gold farming = real money trading. Farming is just a slang used in mmo's to describe grinding for items, gold, mats, etc.
 

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Oh you definitely can in the case of this game. The reason they bot is to get "bananas", to try and get the expensive ones and sell those on the steam market. Whenever such a banana is sold the developer and steam get a percentage of the transaction. So botting quite literally earns the developer more money.

For the record there's literally 10 million transactions a day for this game. Developer earns at least a cent (depending on the currency of the seller/buyer) for every transaction. So he's making ridiculous amounts of money. It's insane.

So in essence it's just gambling?

And they get away with it because the customers pay only the purchase price of the game itself, rather than for each "dice roll"?
 

OttoQuitmarck

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You mean gold farming? Sanctioned by the devs? Oh god
he means selling it for real money.

gold farmers do exist in other games and make a living selling gold for real money, but it's usually frowned upon and they get banned. In this case, will Valve shut the game down or allow this ponzi scheme to continue?
Valve earns a ton of money from this themselves so I doubt they will do anything.
 

OttoQuitmarck

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Dead internet with games.

I'm not a lawyer, but if you're using these kinds of stats to entice/appease investors in your totally not floundering game company, is that some kind of fraud?
Probably. You can't get money from bots.
Oh you definitely can in the case of this game. The reason they bot is to get "bananas", to try and get the expensive ones and sell those on the steam market. Whenever such a banana is sold the developer and steam get a percentage of the transaction. So botting quite literally earns the developer more money.

For the record there's literally 10 million transactions a day for this game. Developer earns at least a cent (depending on the currency of the seller/buyer) for every transaction. So he's making ridiculous amounts of money. It's insane.
What the fuck? Who are the people BUYING this shit (I mean the market items)? It would be a shitty way of money laundering if you lose a ton of money in the process.
I am ngl I have NO idea. There's a lot of people buying the stupid default bananas for 3 cents even though there's no hopes of selling it for a profit in the future. Who the fuck knows why.

Some bananas however are "limited edition" so people might be willing to buy them for the hopes of selling them for a profit later on.
 

OttoQuitmarck

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Oh you definitely can in the case of this game. The reason they bot is to get "bananas", to try and get the expensive ones and sell those on the steam market. Whenever such a banana is sold the developer and steam get a percentage of the transaction. So botting quite literally earns the developer more money.

For the record there's literally 10 million transactions a day for this game. Developer earns at least a cent (depending on the currency of the seller/buyer) for every transaction. So he's making ridiculous amounts of money. It's insane.

So in essence it's just gambling?

And they get away with it because the customers pay only the purchase price of the game itself, rather than for each "dice roll"?
Yea it's just pure speculation essentially, similar to NFTs and other crap like that.
 

Gerrard

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I'm not a lawyer, but if you're using these kinds of stats to entice/appease investors in your totally not floundering game company, is that some kind of fraud?
Probably. You can't get money from bots.
Oh you definitely can in the case of this game. The reason they bot is to get "bananas", to try and get the expensive ones and sell those on the steam market. Whenever such a banana is sold the developer and steam get a percentage of the transaction. So botting quite literally earns the developer more money.

For the record there's literally 10 million transactions a day for this game. Developer earns at least a cent (depending on the currency of the seller/buyer) for every transaction. So he's making ridiculous amounts of money. It's insane.
What the fuck? Who are the people BUYING this shit (I mean the market items)? It would be a shitty way of money laundering if you lose a ton of money in the process.
I am ngl I have NO idea. There's a lot of people buying the stupid default bananas for 3 cents even though there's no hopes of selling it for a profit in the future. Who the fuck knows why.

Some bananas however are "limited edition" so people might be willing to buy them for the hopes of selling them for a profit later on.
Wait, is 3 cents the minimum? I thought 2 cents was the minimum and the dev gets a % that is calculated monthly from all transactions, not per transaction.
 

OttoQuitmarck

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Dead internet with games.

I'm not a lawyer, but if you're using these kinds of stats to entice/appease investors in your totally not floundering game company, is that some kind of fraud?
Probably. You can't get money from bots.
Oh you definitely can in the case of this game. The reason they bot is to get "bananas", to try and get the expensive ones and sell those on the steam market. Whenever such a banana is sold the developer and steam get a percentage of the transaction. So botting quite literally earns the developer more money.

For the record there's literally 10 million transactions a day for this game. Developer earns at least a cent (depending on the currency of the seller/buyer) for every transaction. So he's making ridiculous amounts of money. It's insane.
What the fuck? Who are the people BUYING this shit (I mean the market items)? It would be a shitty way of money laundering if you lose a ton of money in the process.
I am ngl I have NO idea. There's a lot of people buying the stupid default bananas for 3 cents even though there's no hopes of selling it for a profit in the future. Who the fuck knows why.

Some bananas however are "limited edition" so people might be willing to buy them for the hopes of selling them for a profit later on.
Wait, is 3 cents the minimum? I thought 2 cents was the minimum and the dev gets a % that is calculated monthly from all transactions, not per transaction.
It depends on the currency I think. For euros at least it's 3 cents, where 1 cent goes to the seller, 1 to the developer, and 1 to Valve.
 

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