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Twinfalls

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Data4 said:
A group, while being a collective term for several people, items, etc. is still a singular noun, unless you are referring to several groupS. So, "Sonic Youth" describes "The Group", therefore "Sonic Youth (The Group) is for tards" is correct.

When the individuals in the collection or group receive the emphasis, the plural verb is acceptable. Generally, however, in American English, collective nouns take singular verbs. In British English, collective nouns are more often treated as plurals that take plural verbs.

http://dictionary.reference.com/help/fa ... e/g28.html

Seems like it's more arbitrary than what either you or I suggested. However, in this case, ChubbyCowChild was referring not explicitly to the music of SY, but rather the group of musicians - and to my ears, the use of 'is' sounds clumsy in that context, for the name is a proper noun (as opposed to something like 'the team').

It is possibly cultural as the article suggests.
 

Section8

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The use of the word "Youth" exascerbates it too, since it's pretty wacky. Youth can be singular, or a collective, but it can also be pluralised as "Youths".

"He's a sonic youth."
"They're the sonic youth."
"They're sonic youths."
 

Quigs

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Got it, its pretty good. There are alot of similiarities to the morrowind track, which I thought was really good.
 

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