CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[Azdul]

In fact, it seems that most of the people that had any passion for creating games already ejected from there (inb4 a new indie studio?).

There have already been several Indie studios that came out of Ex-CDPR employees, in fact they already even released "Cyberpunk" games before CDPR managed to

Every game studio in Poland was either built by ex-CDPR employees, or hires large number of ex-CDPR employees.

Having ex-CDPR employees in the team tells you essentially nothing about quality of the game. It may be ambitious and visionary - but when they run out of money during development - they will release crap.

It also does not mean that they work faster than CDPR. Once money runs out, it does not matter if the game is ready or not - it will be published immediately.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

Yes, when you buy this game many of the glitches and bugs disperse. What you see on videos around the Internet are mere fabrication spawned from your mind's eye. This game is unique, it actually cures itself once you put the money down to buy it. I've never seen technology this advanced before.

Now I know what you're thinking, "But I don't like the way it handles itemization, the RPG portion seems superficial and stapled on, the open world is pretty to look at but extremely rudimentary in terms of scripting, the combat looks as responsive as Bethesda Fallout without VATS, I don't want Keanu Reeves watching me shower."

Luckily when you buy CD Project RED's magnum opus, John Romero's Cyberpunk 2077, all these problems you think you have are molded to fit what you want and how you want it. A bulletproof vest will provide better protection than a pink blouse, the world will seem so living and breathing you will no longer need to go outside ever again, the combat carries so much weight and impact that you will have to actually hit pause and massage your temple to get a grip because of how intense and involving it is, your favorite actress in her prime years will not only follow you everywhere but offer her uterus for your breeding benefit.

I was like many of the naysayers here. I thought, "boy when there exists hours upon hours of proof this game is a steaming pile of donkey shit why would I need to buy it to further confirm what I already know?" Then I bought it and lo-behold, this game is majestic. It has somehow formed itself to my every thought. This game is amazing. This game is awesome. If this game was Cleopatra I'd love nothing more than to be one of the slaves carrying her throne. You see those videos were put there by evil edgelords and mindflayers. They want to warp your reality. Buy CP2077, it will change you.

Join us.

Join us.

Join us.

 

[Fedora Master]

People are aware they can play this without paying a single zloty?

 

[Yosharian]

So the consensus is that you should buy it once all the DLC is out and the game patched?

Yep, I'm enjoying the game but I've no doubt it will be tremendously improved after about a year's patching.

 

[DalekFlay]

The question is how many points you need to do something at all vs excel in it. Stealth and hacking seem to work fine with minimal point investment. Crafting requires a full investment to be really viable, otherwise it hardly seems worth it. Meanwhile you can buy a legendary cyberdeck at Street Rank 14 that can presumably last you the whole game, even with 3 intelligence.

Fair points. I think "cool" has some essential stealth perks in it like massive headshot damage boosts, but you're right that a lot of other trees seem like they're filled with meh perks. Outer Worlds had very meh perks as well. Maybe that's intentional so that dumb fucks who can't choose the right shit don't get boned and bitch on reddit that it's hard.

Still, I stand by my concern about replay value. There's no real personality flavor dialog. There are some choices in main missions like corporate lady or gang early on, but if you were to design a character in your head... militant fascist, anti-corporate freedom fighter, whatever... there's little in the way of expressing that like there is in New Vegas. Toss in being able to max 2-3 ability trees out of 5 and it just screams 2 different playthroughs to me, an action one and a stealth one, with other differences being minor. However I could be wrong like I was about stealth early on, I've only just now opened up the city and maybe things evolve.

 

[Justicar]

People are aware they can play this without paying a single zloty?

You need at least a mid range pc to do that my cheap germoid wouldnt expect anything else from the land of huns.

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

Best character in the game

 

[Justicar]

Fedora Master I mean this my friend you should embrace you inner germoid.

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

So the consensus is that you should buy it once all the DLC is out and the game patched?

The baseline is this, it's incorrect to call the game "buggy" because it's really still in alpha state, with some elements missing that should clearly be there - car AI, buyable braindance shards, the police system that's obviously a placeholder.

All in all I would say around 10% of the game is still missing and at some point will hopefully be implemented.

The question should be are you willing to play a very good game that's still in alpha?

 

[Fedora Master]

You don't need a mid range PC to download a torrent.

 

[Robber Baron]

As far as actual roleplaying goes I haven't encountered a single time where an attribute check dialog or origin check dialog did anything more than a comment-like flavour text, they are 100% useless so far(30 hours in, 4 hours post prologue)
SJW is also non-existent here, game has 100% cool 90s type of narrative going on like Demolition Man, Dredd with Stallone and Escape from LA. I love it.

Also stealth playthrough in a nutshell

Spoiler

 

[Trithne]

The question is how many points you need to do something at all vs excel in it. Stealth and hacking seem to work fine with minimal point investment. Crafting requires a full investment to be really viable, otherwise it hardly seems worth it. Meanwhile you can buy a legendary cyberdeck at Street Rank 14 that can presumably last you the whole game, even with 3 intelligence.

Fair points. I think "cool" has some essential stealth perks in it like massive headshot damage boosts, but you're right that a lot of other trees seem like they're filled with meh perks. Outer Worlds had very meh perks as well. Maybe that's intentional so that dumb fucks who can't choose the right shit don't get boned and bitch on reddit that it's hard.

Still, I stand by my concern about replay value. There's no real personality flavor dialog. There are some choices in main missions like corporate lady or gang early on, but if you were to design a character in your head... militant fascist, anti-corporate freedom fighter, whatever... there's little in the way of expressing that like there is in New Vegas. Toss in being able to max 2-3 ability trees out of 5 and it just screams 2 different playthroughs to me, an action one and a stealth one, with other differences being minor. However I could be wrong like I was about stealth early on, I've only just now opened up the city and maybe things evolve.

This is probably the biggest sin of the game, and it's honestly more than likely intentional - this is a one and done game. There isn't nearly enough to really make a re run feel different, maybe something to come back to 5 years later or so.

But, as has been mentioned in the thread before - metrics show that the majority of people don't even finish a game, let alone play it a second time. When you consider that, why put in the effort to make highly different characterisations or playstyles - put in enough to let the player slightly tinge the one playthrough you expect them to do and add content to make that playthrough take longer.

 

[Justicar]

You don't need a mid range PC to download a torrent.

Good luck playing on those shitboxes some of those tards have 10 year old gpu and hdd in 2020 and they complain it runs like shit.

 

[Justicar]

This is probably the biggest sin of the game, and it's honestly more than likely intentional - this is a one and done game. There isn't nearly enough to really make a re run feel different, maybe something to come back to 5 years later or so.

Nah there are some quests that you can miss for example if you shoot royce during the bot mission you loose out on a sidequest later on in the game another thing iconic weapons and gear for some you have to kill the character carrying it another incentive for a replay.

 

[Fenix]

Are you implying that The Outer Worlds being a shitshown isn't because Tim Cain and Boyarsky lost their touch?
Oh dear, you are more delusional than I thought.

So it's them who lost their touch rigth?
And it's not becuae they wer directors who actually didn't do any real input, rigth?
And the real input wasn't from twitter whores who also by the chance also are writers and artists and designers for a game?
Riiiiiiiiiiiight....

 

[Yosharian]

Lmao I tried to set up an autohotkey script to save my RSI with clicking these godamn vending machines over and over (that Legendary rifle ain't gonna pay for itself) and the game actually has a script blocker built into it

 

[Justicar]

Lmao I tried to set up an autohotkey script to save my RSI with clicking these godamn vending machines over and over (that Legendary rifle ain't gonna pay for itself) and the game actually has a script blocker built into it

Multi babeh dat money is very tempting once they smell the multi cash say goodbye to the singleplayer dlc

 

[Fedora Master]

You don't need a mid range PC to download a torrent.

Good luck playing on those shitboxes some of those tards have 10 year old gpu and hdd in 2020 and they complain it runs like shit.

Well nobody should listen to the opinion of consoletards or people who try to play games on their Voodoo 3s.

 

[Trithne]

This is probably the biggest sin of the game, and it's honestly more than likely intentional - this is a one and done game. There isn't nearly enough to really make a re run feel different, maybe something to come back to 5 years later or so.

Nah there are some quests that you can miss for example if you shoot royce during the bot mission you loose out on a sidequest later on in the game another thing iconic weapons and gear for some you have to kill the character carrying it another incentive for a replay.

Thats the sort of thing that I'd try in a "I played it a couple of years ago, let's try it again", run, or a "Now all the DLC is out" run. Definitely not enough to be like "Well I finished it, now to finish it again but this time I won't shoot that asshole"

 

[Justicar]

Thats the sort of thing that I'd try in a "I played it a couple of years ago, let's try it again", run, or a "Now all the DLC is out" run. Definitely not enough to be like "Well I finished it, now to finish it again but this time I won't shoot that asshole"

You can say the same thing about Witcher 3 yet I see tards on steam clocking in 2k hours into that game....

 

[Fenix]

Explain how a game that pushes a "SJW agenda" misses the most basic of SJW rules.

These rules are in your head.

 

[Turjan]

I have been playing only gigs, side missions and random stuff since yesterday, and after every mission, the game wanted to send me to the Afterlife (the club; I guess the real transition is still some way out). The random stuff is nothing to talk home about - you just get some weapons and street cred. The gigs were surprisingly varied and quite enjoyable. I got the last side mission from the Delamain quest line, and that was an interesting, though not difficult "dungeon crawl".

My V looked quite okay at some point, but after a few quests, he is plainly in clown territory again.

I feel the urge to put some points into crafting.

At least he beats some of the locals.

 

[Justicar]

I have been playing only gigs, side missions and random stuff since yesterday, and after every mission, the game wanted to send me to the Afterlife (the club; I guess the real transition is still some way out). The random stuff is nothing to talk home about - you just get some weapons and street cred. The gigs were surprisingly varied and quite enjoyable. I got the last side mission from the Delamain quest line, and that was an interesting, though not difficult "dungeon crawl".

My V looked quite okay at some point, but after a few quests, he is plainly in clown territory again.

I feel the urge to put some points into crafting.

At least he beats some of the locals

Fix your fashion bro, anyway I can see some autists spending 10s of hours in photo mode already.

 

[Turjan]

Fix your fashion bro

But that's the thing: As you pretty much never see your V, except in a few cutscenes, there is no real urge to go for style. That leaves the numbers, and that was the current result.

 

[TheDiceMustRoll]

just finished

its kino, a complete tour de force, the best game this company has made. when the bugs are fixed it'll be known as one of the best rpgs ever made. we'll be crying at fallout 8 in a decade for not having the depth of cyberpunk 2077. con artistis will sell us outer-worlds esque failures by farting a ghost of a promise there'll be a game like it.

im going to bed now, I love all of you, unironically.