CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[gurugeorge]

Doesn't matter anyway because I know that it would be impossible to create such list. I managed to see all the ending just by reloading one save. How is that for choices, reactivity and non linear quest design?

Each ending has variants, most visible in the ending calls.

There is a hidden ending you can only access if you pass very specific requirements and have high enough reputation with Johnny.

Phantom Liberty has 3 or 4 different outcomes depending on choices you make throughout the expansion campaign, one of them (choose Reed and stay loyal to NUSA until the very end) adds another ending to the whole game that allows you to ignore the base game ending phase (you don't have to attack Arasaka building at all).

Plus there are questlines within the game that can have drastically different outcomes based on your decisions. They don't dramatically influence the endings, but some characters keep on living or die, depending on your performance.

WOW, they added more endings years after the release in paid DLC, that is truly impressive, Fallout 3 kinda did the same ages ago. And couple of quests in 60 plus hour game have different outcomes as well? Holy crap, unbelievable!! We don't deserve such RPG masterpiece.

Rogue City definitely has more C&C than 2077, right? Who becomes mayor, what happens to Pickles, if Washington stays with the police, killing or sparing the final boss, journalist subplot...

https://screenrant.com/cyberpunk-20...equences/#quot-happy-together-quot-save-barry

Some of the story decisions in Cyberpunk 2077 (not the major ones):

• "The Heist": Where To Send Jackie

• "Automatic Love": Kill Woodman or Let Him Live

• "I Walk The Line": Attack Or Spare The Netwatch Agent

• "Chippin' In": Unlocking The Secret Ending

• "Ghost Town": Unlocking Panam's Romance

• "Gimme Danger": Reconnaissance With Takemura

• "Play It Safe": Defeating Oda

• "Search And Destroy": Rescue Takemura

• "Happy Together": Save Barry

• "The Beast In Me": Revenge Or Mercy

• Dream On: What To Tell Jefferson

• Phantom Liberty: Rescuing President Myers

• Phantom Liberty: Choosing Reed Or Songbird

• "Nocturne Op55N1": Activating The Secret Ending

LOL. Like 10 quests for an entire original game and couple more with DLC including "Panam romance and a "phone call" from Jefferson. That is laughably pathetic. No wonder the AAA game industry is such a degenerate mess.

You're just being silly picking on CP2077 as an example, its C&C is fine for an action-adventure game with some RPG elements. As I've said already, if one were to judge the game on the early hype of it being a full-on CRPG supposed to come from CDPR, then yes, it would be lacking, but that's not what we got, and for what we got, i.e. an action game with RPG elements (just like TW3 basically) the C&C is fine.

This is not the hill for you to die on.

 

[tritosine2k]

Ackshuually

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RPGs With The Best Exploration, Ranked
Cyberpunk 2077 ... Based on its namesake RPG system, Cyberpunk 2077 transports players to Night City, a dystopian future

namesake RPG system,

lol

...not to mention combat drugs in Fallout4, anecdotes about it in 'CP77.

5 /

 

[General Disarray]

I really must say that it's absolutely retarded to play a five year old singleplayer game unmodded. Why would you do that? We all here know game devs can't balance for shit and were often busy implementing new features than fine tuning them. An overhaul mod for economy and damage by some autist fan working on it for 3+ years will always give a superior experience. So anyone today rating this game for a vanilla playthrough I must draw the conclusion that they are retarded, or worse, a consolefag.

The last couple of years I played through RDR2, Risen 1, Elex 1, both new Deus Ex for the first time. All single player action adventure games. I played all of them with an overhaul mod for my first and only playthrough. Don't play with shitty dev balance made for casuals, they can never get it right. It's just stupid and a waste of your time and enjoyment.

 

[gurugeorge]

I really must say that it's absolutely retarded to play a five year old singleplayer game unmodded. Why would you do that? We all here know game devs can't balance for shit and were often busy implementing new features than fine tuning them. An overhaul mod for economy and damage by some autist fan working on it for 3+ years will always give a superior experience. So anyone today rating this game for a vanilla playthrough I must draw the conclusion that they are retarded, or worse, a consolefag.

The last couple of years I played through RDR2, Risen 1, Elex 1, both new Deus Ex for the first time. All single player action adventure games. I played all of them with an overhaul mod for my first and only playthrough. Don't play with shitty dev balance made for casuals, they can never get it right. It's just stupid and a waste of your time and enjoyment.

I tend to agree overall, though I do like to play some of a game raw just to get a baseline; but nine times out of ten I'll start modding it after 5 or 6 hours.

As always the potential downside of modding, though, is that with some games you never actually finish a run-through, and the beginning of the game gets over-familiar because you're constantly re-starting.

 

[racofer]

 

[Zombra]

Does anyone else just flat out dislike Johnny Silverhand? Not even in a "cool asshole you love to hate" kind of way, just as a character, he's not a good addition. I don't care about some rock star who I'm supposed to think is badass, or who's an awesome monomaniacal anticapitalist terrorist. He's just so flat and one-dimensional, and I have nothing against Keanu Reeves as a human being but man, the performance here is not great, like he's looking at the lines for the first time, just read them Mr. Reeves, record the first take, good enough this guy is way too expensive and we have a lot of shit to get through. Most of all, the game does a decent job of letting me decide who V is and what his story feels like, but everything with Silverhand seems like it'd be exactly the same for every playthrough. All these long sections of going into his mind to see his history, it's all so predictable and on rails, I just want to get back to being me doing things I think are actually cool and talking to all the other NPCs, most of whom are deeper and more believable.

 

[Kev Inkline]

Keanu's very good at being Keanu, maybe not as brilliant as an actor. And I like the guy, some roles fit his person quite well, Johnny Silverhand being perhaps somewhere on the lower-middle end of the scale.

 

[Tyrr]

Does anyone else just flat out dislike Johnny Silverhand? Not even in a "cool asshole you love to hate" kind of way, just as a character, he's not a good addition. I don't care about some rock star who I'm supposed to think is badass, or who's an awesome monomaniacal anticapitalist terrorist. He's just so flat and one-dimensional, and I have nothing against Keanu Reeves as a human being but man, the performance here is not great, like he's looking at the lines for the first time, just read them Mr. Reeves, record the first take, good enough this guy is way too expensive and we have a lot of shit to get through. Most of all, the game does a decent job of letting me decide who V is and what his story feels like, but everything with Silverhand seems like it'd be exactly the same for every playthrough. All these long sections of going into his mind to see his history, it's all so predictable and on rails, I just want to get back to being me doing things I think are actually cool and talking to all the other NPCs, most of whom are deeper and more believable.

I don't like having actors faces in my games. At least not the ones I know. I never see Johnny, its always Keanu. I don't know why its so different in games compared to movies.
That's said, I most likely wouldn't have liked Johnny either way. Every part of the game without him is so much better than the rest.

 

[bussinrounds]

I really must say that it's absolutely retarded to play a five year old singleplayer game unmodded. Why would you do that? We all here know game devs can't balance for shit and were often busy implementing new features than fine tuning them. An overhaul mod for economy and damage by some autist fan working on it for 3+ years will always give a superior experience. So anyone today rating this game for a vanilla playthrough I must draw the conclusion that they are retarded, or worse, a consolefag.

The last couple of years I played through RDR2, Risen 1, Elex 1, both new Deus Ex for the first time. All single player action adventure games. I played all of them with an overhaul mod for my first and only playthrough. Don't play with shitty dev balance made for casuals, they can never get it right. It's just stupid and a waste of your time and enjoyment.

Which mods did you use ? including the one for this

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

I don't like having actors faces in my games. At least not the ones I know. I never see Johnny, its always Keanu. I don't know why its so different in games compared to movies.
That's said, I most likely wouldn't have liked Johnny either way. Every part of the game without him is so much better than the rest.

CDPR should have made Johnny Silverhand resemble David Bowie, as intended.

 

[Windemere]

Decided to give this a go recently. What is the take on whether it is worth exploring outside of the what the game naturally leads to? The city gives the illusion of being big but is it mostly empty of content? Any nice surprises or rewards for just nosing about?

 

[Clockwork Knight]

I don't care about some rock star who I'm supposed to think is badass

You're not really supposed to, that's the image he wants to project but like any rock star his primary skill is fucking up his life. The edgelord screen cracks whenever he's pressured into having to say something deeper than "...HEH".

 

[Old One]

I thought Reeves was fine, but I didn't like Silverhand. I chalk that up to problems with the setting and the entire genre though.

A better question might be, who in this game did I like? No one I can remember.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

I thought Reeves was fine, but I didn't like Silverhand. I chalk that up to problems with the setting and the entire genre though.

A better question might be, who in this game did I like? No one I can remember.

The Phantom Liberty cast were especially obnoxious to me and it felt like they wanted us to fuck the black girl who rna the bar. The korean chick's chrome was kinda gross, but that was the point. And it kinda sucks that it's either them or helping the fucking CIA.

 

[lukaszek]

keanu is one of those minimal expressions guyz. Which doesnt work well with gaym as a medium. Then as already mentioned keanu as charismatic rock star doesnt work.

 

[mediocrepoet]

keanu is one of those minimal expressions guyz. Which doesnt work well with gaym as a medium. Then as already mentioned keanu as charismatic rock star doesnt work.

He's got the right look and stoner demeanour, so there's that.

 

[Lord_Potato]

I thought Reeves was fine, but I didn't like Silverhand. I chalk that up to problems with the setting and the entire genre though.

A better question might be, who in this game did I like? No one I can remember.

Oh, I liked a lot of people from the base game. Jackie, his girlfriend Misty, Judy Alvarez (Panam was my girlfriend so I wouldn't say I merely 'liked' her), River Ward, Victor Vector, Rogue, and even Johny, especially towards the end. Even Goro had his moments, despite the fact he kept being a corporate drone.

In Phantom Liberty choosing someone I liked would be more difficult though.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Judy was way better than Panam tbh

 

[Robber Baron]

Night City is my favourite character
I want more of him

 

[Lord_Potato]

Judy was way better than Panam tbh

Yes, I played as a guy so we were friends. Of course, I tried to hit on her whenever the opportunity arose, but she was cool about it.

 

[Karl Barx]

I don't like having actors faces in my games. At least not the ones I know. I never see Johnny, its always Keanu. I don't know why its so different in games compared to movies.

Same.
Comparing it with The Nomad Soul, another game with a cyberpunk setting & RPG elements where a popular figure plays an in-game rockstar -except that back then, it was also really a rockstar IRL - I guess this worked because the character was introduced prior (so to legitimate its in-game status) AND its appearaces were rare (hence valuable).

Having Keavu appearing out of nowhere as someone whose lore is barely introduced, then constantly popping to blabber on random sh*t with false-egdy nonsense rapidly gets old.
Plus, Keanu's play is not particularily great... or maybe the whole non-Phantom Liberty play isn't (core characters such as Jackie, Takemura or the Arasakas are clearly more one-dimensional than how CDPR would like them to appear... any PL character is better in this respect)

 

[lukaszek]

i think it would work better if they leaned on silverhand being outdated entity, like a cringe grandpa following you everywhere and trying to be cool and missing mark every, single, time

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Even though I didn't like the PL characters that much the game would've been much better if it was just PL. Most things outside of it feel like the tacked on expansion instead of the other way around.

 

[Kev Inkline]

i think it would work better if they leaned on silverhand being outdated entity, like a cringe grandpa following you everywhere and trying to be cool and missing mark every, single, time

Ah! I think you mean something like:

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

the performance here is not great, like he's looking at the lines for the first time, just read them Mr. Reeves, record the first take, good enough

That's how I feel about his acting skills in general. He's a nice guy and looks good but I wouldn't call him a great actor.