almondblight
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Darkness40k said:
Ummm...that's like every single fucking game with speech check. Which is why I think it kinda sucks but people here like it, for some reason.
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Review Chefe does Fallout 3
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Ummm...that's like every single fucking game with speech check. Which is why I think it kinda sucks but people here like it, for some reason.
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usually checks allow you access to something you could not access otherwise, more or less equivalent alternate paths, or fleshing out of your character.almondblight said:
the skipping in fo3 is rather funny though. the whole let's find out about my father quest basically serves as an introduction to the major locations, but you can easily skip it unknowingly by exploring certain locations, without having the option to do it regardless, leaving you pretty clueless after a while. a nice contrast to the otherwise excessive handholding.
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It's clearly seen in the Blood Ties Quest, if you get the password via Lady Killer/Black Widow, and never actually speak with whathisface, the head "vampire", you never actually get to him to tell you the background as to what the family actually is. Worse, the game actually behaves as if he told you.
Personally, I don't mind if it shortens quests, as long as it doesn't mess with the dialogues like that. If the quest is cut was basically: Go, Egor, bring me a pillow, that's actualyy for the best.
Personally, I don't mind if it shortens quests, as long as it doesn't mess with the dialogues like that. If the quest is cut was basically: Go, Egor, bring me a pillow, that's actualyy for the best.
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Meanwhile we can resort to bitching about how kids these days can't differentiate between "it's" and "its" :wink:Gwendo said:
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Congratulations Chefe, you actually managed to make me curious if it might interest me in any way. Quite a feat considering I disliked all I heard about it, I hate oblivion and that all the gameplay vids I saw made me do :facepalm.
Perhaps I'll go and give it a try.
Perhaps I'll go and give it a try.
Trash
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Ooooh, double post.
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Gwendo said:
Deus Ex 3
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Gwendo said:
Fallout 4: Horrigan's Revenge
Frank Horrigan is now a high elf
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Superb logic, my good sir!
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Cloaked Figure said:
From what?
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Gwendo said:
It is not that bad, but it isn't far from what I imagined. It is still full of blandness, unfunny gameplay, dullness, bad dialogues, inconsistencies, and a good measure of good ol' bethesda branded stupidity. They still raped the saga (but honestly the have been raping it since fallout 2.... it must be the favourite pasttime of the videogame industry, "rape the fallout franchise". And also everyone seems to agree with this)
This is oblivion: episode one, only slightly less bland.
poocolator
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Fallout 3 is a poor attempt at an FPS (because it sure as shit doesn't feel like an RPG) and it fails at that. I got bored quickly, and stopped playing. Where the hell was all the good dialogue and, contrary to what Chefe claims, I saw no evidence of consequences to my actions. Good thing I removed it from inventory. Good choice there, on my part. I always did like demos; found them to be very telling.
poocolator
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Fallout 3 is a poor attempt at an FPS (because it sure as shit doesn't feel like an RPG) and it fails at that. I got bored quickly, and stopped playing. Where the hell was all the good dialogue and, contrary to what Chefe claims, I saw no evidence of consequences to my actions. Good thing I removed it from inventory. Good choice there, on my part. I always did like demos; found them to be very telling.
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almondblight said:
That's actually a great point that Darkness40k has brought here and not every skill check has to be like that as you can see for yourself in several examples from the Codex reference crpgs.
You can look at quests as the basic unit to create choices. Every quest has skill, attr, faction requirements without those you won't even get the quest. Then a quest has several stages that can be reached from using different abilities and skills and if the quest is very good it will have multiple resolutions or endings.
In terms of consequences it's rare for it affect things outside the quest besides raising some stat, get some xp, changing your stance with a faction or getting some new greetings in dialog as a reaction. Once the quest is over anything you did and how you did has little recognition or impact anywhere else. This is encapsulated quest design and it sucks.
Fallout 1 and 2 did more than this and things you do in a quest will often have an impact in other places and npcs in other places will recognize that and will unlock other quests for you. And this is what i don't see generalized in Fallout 3 and what makes it's c&c barely above the NWN series. OK they have skill checks in dialogs and perhaps you can play the game without using your combat skills, which is awesome considering how shitty the combat feels, but they could have done much better than this and create Fallout c&c with a little more effort.
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Fallout 3 is a poor attempt at an FPS (because it sure as shit doesn't feel like an RPG) and it fails at that. I got bored quickly, and stopped playing. Where the hell was all the good dialogue and, contrary to what Chefe claims, I saw no evidence of consequences to my actions. Good thing I removed it from inventory. Good choice there, on my part. I always did like demos; found them to be very telling.
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Fallout 3 is a poor attempt at an FPS (because it sure as shit doesn't feel like an RPG) and it fails at that. I got bored quickly, and stopped playing. Where the hell was all the good dialogue and, contrary to what Chefe claims, I saw no evidence of consequences to my actions. Good thing I removed it from inventory. Good choice there, on my part. I always did like demos; found them to be very telling.
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Chefe does Fallout 3 is a poor attempt at a review (because it sure as shit doesn't feel like a narrative) and it fails at that. I got bored quickly, and stopped reading. Where the hell was all the good criticism and, contrary to what Chefe claims, I saw no evidence of him having an English degree. Good thing I made Microsoft Sam read it for me. Good choice there, on my part. I always did like computer voices; found them to be very telling.
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wow, that pile of crap is one fine example of shitty writing. For the sake of the codex, take that abomination off the front page, a normal forum post would have suficied...
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You spelt douche wrong.Chefe said:
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