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Incline Chris Avellone Appreciation Station

Puteo

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Some potential red flags, for the uninitiated:

- fits of rage
- attention-seeking, yet reclusive
- pathological lying
- childish regression when vulnerable
- bullying and character assassination
- sycophantic where useful
- you never really "know" them even if you're friends

The fact that he heavily abstracted and genericized the actual signs of NPD is frankly more damning to him than Chris, almost as though the real ones struck too close to home.

Here's the actual signs from the Mayo Clinic:

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and the severity of symptoms vary. People with the disorder can:

  • Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
  • Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
  • Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
  • Exaggerate achievements and talents
  • Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
  • Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
  • Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
  • Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
  • Take advantage of others to get what they want
  • Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
  • Be envious of others and believe others envy them
  • Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
  • Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office
At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they perceive as criticism, and they can:

  • Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special treatment
  • Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted
  • React with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior
  • Have difficulty regulating emotions and behavior
  • Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change
  • Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection
  • Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation

Bolded ones imo MCA has shown to be the exact opposite of, he has been self-effacing to a fault.
 

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Hold on. Is Fenstermaker pointing these accusations at MCA? If not, any ideas who he is pointing this shit at? Sorry for my autism here.
He's being intentionally vague but a lot of that fits his interaction with Avellone last May from his perspective, so it's funny to think he's the one he's talking about.
 

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Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Codex Year of the Donut Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Ah, the legion, the anti-thot faction. Would probably see a few more %, if it was released now :cool:
 

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Strap Yourselves In
Despite the May of Rage, Avellone seems to me like a low-conflict kind of guy. He's always been extremely diligent about making sure that even Codex autists don't give him credit for other peoples' work, he seems to be pretty self-aware about his own failures and limitations, and he worked for decades with no drama.

Maybe Sawyer is actually sending us secret signals about Fergus??? (Or more likely, he's referring to somebody that we would never think of because the Codex isn't obsessed with them.)
 
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Grab the Codex by the pussy Strap Yourselves In Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Funny to see this coming from Fenstermaker, the guy who was apparently such a snowflake that Obsidian had to make sure the writers they were hiring got along with him.
 
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Eric Fenstermaker said:
Chris’s experience with Obsidian is his own. But it’s just that, one experience, filtered through a particular point of view, selective in its memory, and biased by its nature. So is mine. No one perspective should be taken for gospel. Me, I liked it there, enough to stay for more than a decade, and I wasn’t without more lucrative options. Good people ran the place. Good people (besides a few genuine personality disorder sufferers) worked there when I was there. Josh was a good director, the owners were good owners. I strongly disagreed with them many times, but it was never because they were coming from a place of bad intentions. Everyone’s just trying to navigate an insanely difficult and stressful business, and for that alone I think you have to approach the profession with a lot of forgiveness in your heart.

But before you think I’m being overly magnanimous, Eric absolutely drove away a lot of talented writers (esp. John Gonzalez – Shadow over Mordor, Horizon Zero Dawn), although John likely wouldn’t ever admit to the fact that Eric hated him; also, we were forced to isolate Eric from John’s Lead Writer responsibilities (which was a failure on our part, but I wasn’t in charge of New Vegas, which had a lot of inner development conflicts across the board).

Even more after John left, we actually changed our hiring procedure to cater to Eric on Eternity, since we knew if he didn’t approve of a writer, you might as well set a torch any writer that worked with him.

Overall, I thought John was a great writer.

When I talked to Eric about the perspectives on John (since no one else had), his solution was, “let’s just divide New Vegas tasks so John and I never have to interact with each other,” which was like, that moment where all the sound evaporates from the room and all you see is the other person’s lips moving, but you can’t bring yourself to acknowledge what they’re saying.

:philosoraptor:
 

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This drama has now been going on for years and I still don't know what's what. And considering how everybody involved acts I doubt I ever will.

Too many emotions, man.
 

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But before you think I’m being overly magnanimous, Eric absolutely drove away a lot of talented writers (esp. John Gonzalez – Shadow over Mordor, Horizon Zero Dawn), although John likely wouldn’t ever admit to the fact that Eric hated him; also, we were forced to isolate Eric from John’s Lead Writer responsibilities (which was a failure on our part, but I wasn’t in charge of New Vegas, which had a lot of inner development conflicts across the board).

Even more after John left, we actually changed our hiring procedure to cater to Eric on Eternity, since we knew if he didn’t approve of a writer, you might as well set a torch any writer that worked with him.

Overall, I thought John was a great writer.

When I talked to Eric about the perspectives on John (since no one else had), his solution was, “let’s just divide New Vegas tasks so John and I never have to interact with each other,” which was like, that moment where all the sound evaporates from the room and all you see is the other person’s lips moving, but you can’t bring yourself to acknowledge what they’re saying.

:philosoraptor:
I remembered this when reading Eric's tweet of traits above. Came off as projecting to me. Assuming MCA's story is true of course.
 

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