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Civ 6 or Endless Legends for a noob?
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Maxie
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both are rather atypical and can potentially scare you off
civ5 is as vanilla as they get while still remaining fun to play
civ5 is as vanilla as they get while still remaining fun to play
passerby
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Civ 2 : A very basic archetypical 4x game, ideal for a noob to get into the genre.
Civ 4 : After you master Civ 2, unfortunately it's a bit bloated with too many shallow mechanics on top of solid core gameplay.
Master of Magic : It's definitely not for a noob, but after the two above you'll be ready.
Everything else not in space is either trash, or not true 4x.
Civ 4 : After you master Civ 2, unfortunately it's a bit bloated with too many shallow mechanics on top of solid core gameplay.
Master of Magic : It's definitely not for a noob, but after the two above you'll be ready.
Everything else not in space is either trash, or not true 4x.
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Citizen
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EL. I don't like civ's pseudohistorical meme setting with tanks fighting cavalrymen and comically sped up historical advancement of civilizations. EL is prettier, has greater focus on combat, coherent style and amazing music, has better single player due to quests and additional objectives on map, and greater faction variety
But is it easier to get into compared to Civ?
Maxie
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EL isn't based around setting up cities wherever you please but instead its gimmick is settling a limited number of map regions with one city per region, also there's way more impact on finding an optimal place for a city tile-wise
Maxie
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you were fishing for street cred with this dumb post or what? a casual playing twenty plus year old games, whatever the fuck for?
Holy shit, Maxie started posting about video games.
I guess his shoutbox ban was a good idea!
I guess his shoutbox ban was a good idea!
I would like something that is more distant from Paradox games as possible, since I don't like navigating through thousand of menus as the main focus of the game.
Example of titles I hate: Europa Universalis, Victoria, Heart of Iron, Stellaris
Example of titles I love: Total War, Xcom, HOMM
rusty_shackleford
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they're not really the same at all, but go with endless legend
Citizen
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Civ is easier to get into, but they both are pretty casual on the global scale of 4x. It's not
Basically exactly what I was going to write. Also add Warlock as an atypical 4x, that is also quite fun.
But if you just want the rawest, default 4x game, play Civilization 5. Make sure you get the expansions, the basic game is pretty trash without the balance changes and extra features they bring.
Van-d-all
Erudite
Civ 5 with expansions, it was the last one where they still cared about the franchise. Civ 6 has shit balance (absurd DLC nations), several pointless new mechanics (poorly implemented civics tree, AI behaviour triggers) while severely relaxing some restraints which were a steeple of 4X for years now (city spamming) - it's pretty much a meme game for streamers to steamroll AI without much challenge.
EL is fine, but it's a curiosity game, it came out mostly to be different, and as such has unique systems for pretty much every 4X aspect.
As for other recommendations, you have the entire Age Of Wonders series (1,2,SM,3). All of them take a rather easy path into the genre, as they all have pretty fun campaigns of rising difficulty to play. The older titles can be a bitch to run on newer systems, but AOW3 can still be bought for peanuts.
EL is fine, but it's a curiosity game, it came out mostly to be different, and as such has unique systems for pretty much every 4X aspect.
As for other recommendations, you have the entire Age Of Wonders series (1,2,SM,3). All of them take a rather easy path into the genre, as they all have pretty fun campaigns of rising difficulty to play. The older titles can be a bitch to run on newer systems, but AOW3 can still be bought for peanuts.
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catfood
AGAIN
Play Civ 2. It's fun to play and very easy to get into.
Citizen
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MoM is literally a kiddo's first 4x. Not only it has very streamlined city/army/civilization management mostly copied from Master of Orion 1, but also braindead AI that provides no resistance to the player. It's pretty much the simplest 4x to get into, I remember bullying the hell out of AI when I was like 7 yo. Very nice nonetheless
MadMaxHellfire
Arcane
civ6 is retarded. the more the dlcs the more the retardation. listen to this: you can farm forest fire for ever increasing production. as in every tile producing 30+, 60+, 100+, time is the limit.
passerby
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Maybe it is as casual as you say. I remember being much more confused by it at the time then by Civ 1.
I knew nothing about fantasy literature and had no experience with RPGs at the time, so it was easier to intuitively get gameplay mechanics wrapped into pseudohistorical dressing.
Never returned to it, because of braindead ai. I don't really play much 4x games for this reason.
They always become pointless in singleplayer once you learn them and I have no patience for PBEM multiplayer, or long realtime multiplayer sessions.
But stop recommending Civ 5 trash, it may be less shit than Civ 6 but it's the game that killed the series and possibly the genre.
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So, I've just tried Endless Legend but can't get into it because of the art-style. The world seems so confusing to look at like random blocks of random colors put togheter.
Probably it is just me but I didn't have this problem with games such as Total Warhammer or Age of Wonders 3.
I'll try Civ 5 now which looks more natural
Probably it is just me but I didn't have this problem with games such as Total Warhammer or Age of Wonders 3.
I'll try Civ 5 now which looks more natural
Sranchammer
Arcane
If you're not gay, then Endless Legends.
How the fuck is vanilla Civ 4 bloated??
Real men play with the Caveman 2 Cosmos mod for proper variety
Citizen
Guest
EL is by far the least visually cluttered of three. I still have no idea how people can distinguish stuff on AoW3 and TWH maps
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