Civilization VI - Now available, so you can sink all your free time into it

[Average Manatee]

Civ4 with BTS is the last Civ ever. The rest that came after it is basically TB tower defence.

Tower defence where you need to manually order the turrets to fire every turn. i.e. tedious, mindless bullshit defence.

Still, Civ4 is still a scary, scary game if you roll a Continents (especially isolated) start and one of the AIs (preferrably a "competent" one, with a strong militaristic/expansionist flavor to conquer and subdue their rivals but without going batshit insane and neglecting tech like Montezuma/Shaka does; Catherine the Great and Julius Caesar are usually quite fantastic at this) is given a runaway start with two weak AIs. Prodding with a tiny Caravel into a 20 city empire that's deep into Gunpowder tech is something that can happen even on Monarch.

A big problem in many strategy games now (Civ not being the only example) is that there is virtually never any dominant runaway AIs like there was in earlier civ games, MoO, Alpha Centauri, etc. I don't know if its a problem with them intentionally playing conservatively to avoid blunders or a design choice to avoid making the player feel like they got screwed, but it really kills the experience when a dominant AI that controls half the military units on the map never even comes close to a domination victory before you or another difficulty-boosted AI can get a different victory type.

 

[Space Satan]

When dominant AI appeared, both MoO and Alpha centauri had other problems - inability and reluctacne to dogpile and band together against it. Ai simply could not orginize coordinated offence, and in case of AC - unable to build good unit templates, spwaning tons of units without armor or with basic weapons. And MoO it was usually Psilons because their tech advantage allowed them to utilize AI difficulty bonuses to the fullest.

 

[sser]

Civ4 had distinguishable AI patterns. Notably, just trying to remember it anyway, Catherine and Mehmet of the Ottomans were excellent at creating wide and self-supporting empires that could easily rival a player. Shaka was also hyper-aggressive without being a suicidal idiot like Monty/Ragnar which made him a substantial threat. None of these have occurred since, mostly cause the "Panzer General" approach to combat is impossible for the AI to handle so you just trounce them no matter what.

 

[coldcrow]

On a related note, Realism Invictus 3.4 just got released. https://sourceforge.net/projects/ci...us 3.4 (2018-01-30) Setup (Full).exe/download

 

[Jason Liang]

Is there a mod with current world leaders? That would be hilarious.

By the time Civ 9 gets around, I'd expect Donald, Putin and Kim Jong-un to be in the game. And Twitter in the Tech tree.

 

[Cael]

Is there a mod with current world leaders? That would be hilarious.

By the time Civ 9 gets around, I'd expect Donald, Putin and Kim Jong-un to be in the game. And Twitter in the Tech tree.

Well, I put Helen fucking Clark as the leader of NZ in my mod of Civ3, so anything is possible.

Spoiler

And then edited the map to put the NZers next to my starting point and annihilated the fucks with extreme prejudice later in the game.

 

[Dzupakazul]

I remember I once downloaded a bootleg Polish copy of Civ2 from some abandonware site where someone, before shipping it, edited the .txt files and customized all the factions for his own purposes and the Indians were changed into Australians led by (Male) Michael Jordan (yes, literal fucking Michael Jordan, the basketball player) and (Female) Ms. Shit. Yes, Ms. Shit. I was 12 at the time, and I figure whoever released it was my age. I support my hypothesis by the fact that the Australians in said copy had only one city written in (Sydney), so I assume the owner didn't know any other Australian cities. Or, needless to say, any notable female Australians. But the diplomacy screen portraits stayed the same. Ergo:

Michael Jordan, everyone. Yo gon' get dunked, son.

 

[Average Manatee]

Clearly the modder was going for a Barkley Shut up and Jam Gaiden crossover once the nukes started flying.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

I think I’m older than 12 and I don’t know any notable aussie women or cities besides sydney :/

 

[kris]

I think I’m older than 12 and I don’t know any notable aussie women or cities besides sydney :/

Actresses?

 

[Jason Liang]

And pop singers. And world renowned coloratura sopranos. And best-selling children's literature authors. And Olympic swimmers. And zoologists. And porn actresses. And Queens of France.

Maybe he's 13?

 

[Deflowerer]

No one gives a flying fuck about Australia in Europe, that's for sure.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

we don't want turkey which is just beside europe, why would we care for a penal colony?

 

[Dzupakazul]

I wrote this post at like 4 AM and I somehow neglected to mention that I don't believe Michael Jordan is Australian either.

 

[thesheeep]

we don't want turkey which is just beside europe, why would we care for a penal colony?

I'm pretty sure the vast majority would prefer if those two switched places, though

 

[Average Manatee]

And pop singers. And world renowned coloratura sopranos. And best-selling children's literature authors. And Olympic swimmers. And zoologists. And porn actresses.

Maybe he's 13?

Irrelevant nobodies that no one outside of Australia knows outside of specific field knowledge. I guess the Mary Poppins writer is an interesting fact, but it's a series about an English person in England, so not at all recognizable as an Australian writer.

You do realize that virtually every country has pop singers, Olympic swimmers, and porn actresses, right?

And Queens of France.

Austria

 

[Jason Liang]

If you don't know Joan Sutherland, you are culturally illiterate.

 

[Althorion]

By the time Civ 9 gets around, I'd expect Donald, Putin and Kim Jong-un to be in the game.

Honestly, I wouldn’t be too surprised to see Putin. Or a Kim Il Sung.

 

[Jason Liang]

Putin definitely. He's been in charge of Russia for a long long time now.

 

[Althorion]

BTW, I’m somewhat disappointed not to see a Margaret Thatcher yet. She has the extra benefit of being a woman, and Firaxis has dug quite deep in search for female leaders.

 

[thesheeep]

BTW, I’m somewhat disappointed not to see a Margaret Thatcher yet. She has the extra benefit of being a woman

Many still question if she was even human.
Though her style would fit perfectly in the increasing absurdity of leader "portraits".

 

[Talby]

BTW, I’m somewhat disappointed not to see a Margaret Thatcher yet. She has the extra benefit of being a woman, and Firaxis has dug quite deep in search for female leaders.

They won't put someone so recent in a Civ game, plus the game is made by SJWs and leftists hate Thatcher. There's a higher chance of Hillary Clinton being the next leader of America despite never being President.

 

[Jason Liang]

... Gandhi isn't ancient history and he's been in the series since Civ II. Neither are Mao and Stalin.

Besides, who do they use for the leaders from Canada?

Also, why the fuck is Tamerlane considered a leader from Georgia? Haven't the devs ever played EU?

 

[Galdred]

Also, why the fuck is Tamerlane considered a leader from Georgia? Haven't the devs ever played EU?

No, but they probably read about it in Wikipedia.

 

[Cael]

... Gandhi isn't ancient history and he's been in the series since Civ II. Neither are Mao and Stalin.

Besides, who do they use for the leaders from Canada?

Also, why the fuck is Tamerlane considered a leader from Georgia? Haven't the devs ever played EU?

Gandhi was in the ORIGINAL Civ. That is where the nuke happy Gandhi came from.