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Nines

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And thanks to modders, Doom 3 looks incredible, especially for its age.
 

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There are a few beautiful games on Unity, but they're usually glitchy, packed with bugs and have draconian requirements.
Not sure what's the problem though. If some noname guys were able to make this on UE3, I expect no less from those, who's touching one the most iconic game series.

Yeah, I feel like a lot of people still haven't processed that Unreal is now basically free. In an era in which even Iron Tower Studios can afford Unreal, using Unity is just a fucking disaster zone of a choice.
 

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Yeah, I feel like a lot of people still haven't processed that Unreal is now basically free. In an era in which even Iron Tower Studios can afford Unreal, using Unity is just a fucking disaster zone of a choice.

Switching from Unity to Unreal is easier said than done though, especially since a lot of small-time dev studios got some experience working with the former. UE4's tools are powerful but as far as I could tell it's workflow is pretty different, and the coding thing is entirely different (c# in unity vs c++ in ue4, plus ue4 uses some kind of visual scripting language as well). On the other hand, as a non-programmer I could build very pretty things in UE4 very quickly to a level I never got to approach in Unity. But my programmer buddy is a Java/C# guy with experience with Unity, so...
 

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Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2
I do hope they succeed and manage to create a true to its roots sequel, but I'm not going to start waving any flags before I see where they are going with this.
 

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There are a few beautiful games on Unity, but they're usually glitchy, packed with bugs and have draconian requirements.
Not sure what's the problem though. If some noname guys were able to make this on UE3, I expect no less from those, who's touching one the most iconic game series.

Yeah, I feel like a lot of people still haven't processed that Unreal is now basically free. In an era in which even Iron Tower Studios can afford Unreal, using Unity is just a fucking disaster zone of a choice.
I assume Unity is easier to work with, especially if you don't have programming skills. After all, it's Unity we should thank for the endless flow of browny mass of half-assed survival games.
 

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There are a few beautiful games on Unity, but they're usually glitchy, packed with bugs and have draconian requirements.
Not sure what's the problem though. If some noname guys were able to make this on UE3, I expect no less from those, who's touching one the most iconic game series.

Yeah, I feel like a lot of people still haven't processed that Unreal is now basically free. In an era in which even Iron Tower Studios can afford Unreal, using Unity is just a fucking disaster zone of a choice.
I assume Unity is easier to work with, especially if you don't have programming skills. After all, it's Unity we should thank for the endless flow of browny mass of half-assed survival games.

Yes, but "it was easier to make something shitty lol" isn't the sort of statement that makes customers want to buy your game. Look, if developers could push out games that miraculously ran well on Unity I wouldn't give half a shit about the engine, but when every game that comes out on it is a pile of trash performance wise while they have free alternatives, I feel absolutely no shame in telling developers to go fuck themselves if they continue to opt for the inferior option.
 

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Night Dive did publish a game inspired by System Shock, before they had the rights to System Shock, called 'Spirits of Xanadu', which is supposed to be very good.
 

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There are a few beautiful games on Unity, but they're usually glitchy, packed with bugs and have draconian requirements.
Not sure what's the problem though. If some noname guys were able to make this on UE3, I expect no less from those, who's touching one the most iconic game series.

Yeah, I feel like a lot of people still haven't processed that Unreal is now basically free. In an era in which even Iron Tower Studios can afford Unreal, using Unity is just a fucking disaster zone of a choice.
I assume Unity is easier to work with, especially if you don't have programming skills. After all, it's Unity we should thank for the endless flow of browny mass of half-assed survival games.

Yes, but "it was easier to make something shitty lol" isn't the sort of statement that makes customers want to buy your game. Look, if developers could push out games that miraculously ran well on Unity I wouldn't give half a shit about the engine, but when every game that comes out on it is a pile of trash performance wise while they have free alternatives, I feel absolutely no shame in telling developers to go fuck themselves if they continue to opt for the inferior option.
Well, Unity 5 is suppose to be better, but not many games use it, and most of them haven't come out yet.

Btw, really like this video:

 
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Haha, oh boy.
Please rate your interest in virtual reality gaming

ABSOLUTELY HARAM.

How I'm feeling after seeing that in their SS3 survey:

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Get used to it, these Looking Glass guys love talking about their gadgets.
 

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Codex USB, 2014
Ironically, the original System Shock had support for vr gear, for the primitive stuff they had back in the 90s, like the vfx-1. It was a similar situation to what we have now: vr was the cool new tech, everybody thought that it was going to be the future of gaming. I remember seeing vfx-1 demo setups in computer shops, etc. Then it just sort of fizzled out. Of course, this time it might be different, we'll see. But I think even the devs would agree that it was a waste of time/resources implementing it in the first game.
 

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Ironically, the original System Shock had support for vr gear, for the primitive stuff they had back in the 90s, like the vfx-1. It was a similar situation to what we have now: vr was the cool new tech, everybody thought that it was going to be the future of gaming. I remember seeing vfx-1 demo setups in computer shops, etc. Then it just sort of fizzled out. Of course, this time it might be different, we'll see. But I think even the devs would agree that it was a waste of time/resources implementing it in the first game.

Ah yes, the little-remembered 90s VR craze. In another interesting concidence, a few years back, I found about a VR Autoduel game that was never made.
 

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Codex USB, 2014
I just hope they won't pull a Tim Schafer on us

Using the SS3 Kickstarter money to fund the Underworld game :smug:
 

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I never asked for this...
Wait, wrong franchise.
 

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