Vapourware Codexian Game Development Thread

[Mustawd]

this is the closest yet, except the characters animated

Also, it's isometric. Is your game going to be isometric?

 

[Zed]

this is the closest yet, except the characters animated

Also, it's isometric. Is your game going to be isometric?

I don't think it's technically isometric but yeah it'd be the same

You'll probably see some screens in a couple of weeks

 

[jcd]

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[Viata]

That's cool. :mrpresident:

 

[gaussgunner]

I guess what I really mean is one direction but mirrored, so left and right, but being able to move NE NW SE SW. I hope this makes it clear. Like a platformer sprite on a tactical jrpg 4 dir background.

Left/right platformer sprite on an iso grid, got it.

My platformer sprites are drawn SW/SE instead of full left/right; it looks better. I'm planning a topdown tRPG with the same characters. I'll need 2 more sprites, walking toward and away, so it's more work than iso... but everything else about iso is a pain in the ass.

If you're dead set on iso, you could start with crappy "placeholder art" SW/SE sprites for development.. they'll look weird when walking NW/NE on a tactical map, but you can make better SW/SE and NW/NE sprites later. No sense burning time/money on art until gameplay is finished.

 

[ragnor]

A gif to show the scale of our game world

Also we talked a bit about the influences we used to design our game and its world here: http://www.indiedb.com/games/dark-trails/news/dark-trails-dev-blog-3-world-of-dark-trails

 

[Russia is over. The end.]

Worked in UE4 today http://webmshare.com/play/gBxGb

 

[DavidBVal]

Designing a crawl in editor, Royal Crypts.

Gameplay

 

[jcd]

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[Ludovic]

Here's what I am working on: .

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

Tee hee, it's alive, guys, news coming soon. But for now? Fap to this:

 

[tuluse]

Are you making Hovertank 3-D 2?

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

Are you making Hovertank 3-D 2?

Not really. This is my main inspiration:


In short: I'm making a fairly simple turn-based dungeon crawler with a bunch of survival horror elements thrown in.

 

[barker_s]

Here's what I am working on

Cool stuff man. I actually stumbled upon your game on Bay12 forums while searching for some indie 4x's, looks very promising. Have you started coding the AI? Got any tips/insights?

Also, since you're using Unity, you might want to check those 2d hex assets:

https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/52258
https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/59271
https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/66277

 

[Ludovic]

Here's what I am working on

Cool stuff man. I actually stumbled upon your game on Bay12 forums while searching for some indie 4x's, looks very promising. Have you started coding the AI? Got any tips/insights?

Thanks. Yeah, I have a couple of basic AIs running, one for wizards, one for warlords and one for nomad tribes. The behavior of ancient evils is randomized at the moment (which is perhaps fitting for the weirder ones) and neutral cities don't do much other than recruit more troops if someone is waging a war of conquest near them, and conduct very basic diplomacy with major powers. Nomad tribes are pretty simple and just pick juicy targets for raiding, raid them, return with loot, replenish casualties a bit, rinse and repeat. The wizard/warlord AIs are the most complex.

I don't use decision trees, neural nets or such for the AIs. It's purely custom algorithms where it analyzes (known) world state and available assets (armies, gold, etc.), and allocates accordingly. It can plan a bit ahead, consolidating and strengthening armies in preparation for conquest, and it will reserve assets for some goals (ie building or claiming something in the future). I think that's the fastest way to get some interesting AI up and running.

Further work on the AI will focus on 1) improving the planning,2) improving the recognition of threats/opportunities, 3) adding personality to AI. I think the latter is the most important actually. I don't want to focus on making the AIs ruthless min/max'ers and backstabbers - since making an AI which can compete with a determined and power gaming human is close to impossible. So they need to be "not-dumb" and have memorable personalities.

Thanks for the assets links. I think they're really great work, and did consider them for a very long time, but I don't think they'd mesh well with the other assets I am commissioning, and they're not quite the final style I am envisioning for the map.

 

[DavidBVal]

New spritesheet for Manticore, this is a fragment.

 

[groke]

The start of my unicode ultima clone for nazi shitlords.

 

[BlackGoat]

Looks pretty sweet.

 

[gaussgunner]

Started making a browser based "tactics" CRPG...

http://machiaville.neocities.org/tactics-demo/game.html

Artwork is from my little 2D ARPG that I've been working on for 2 years...

 

[baturinsky]

Working on my Civilization killer, working title "A Lot Of Towns". Now I have a terrain gen and an embryo of UI.

Idea behind the game is that there is no cities, buildings, improvements, units etc. There is only a lot of towns. Each turn you can found a new town, or upgrade existing one that has accumulated enough food and production for that.
There is an upgrade tree - you start with an outpost, which can be upgraded to agricultural, industrial, military etc settlement, then you can specialise it further. You can bunch several towns next to each other, and they will give each other bonuses depending on their specialisation, making a makeshift city. Trade is used for moving resources between towns. Now I'm thinking about how game decides which towns sends what were.

 

[baturinsky]

Did some tinkering with terraingen. Accelerated it by an order of magnitude (by removing a bug) and added some windy-ness.
Also, implemented Dijkstra pathfinding, which is illustrated with number above.

Also, I have figured that "civilisation without cities", where there is a lot of smaller mutually-dependent entities instead of few mostly autonomous ones, is actually closer to Anno, Tropico or Settlers. And like in them, biggest challenge both for developer and for player is going to be logistics.

I have some ideas of how to implement it, most of them revolve around using a big variety of trade hubs, that differ by type of goods they work with, storage caps, how far they can pull or push goods, how high is their priority. So, for example, if you want your Nuclear Station to be stocked with Uranium absolutely at all time, you can plop a respective warehouse next to it that will grab Uranium from all sources from any point of your empire before anyone else can have a chance.

 

[Niektory]

Those hexes look like they've been through a lot.

 

[gaussgunner]

The rivers look great though. You just need to account for them in your pathfinding....

 

[baturinsky]

I can rough up those hexes way more.

About rivers - yea, I'm going to take them into account. Something like, bonus move when going along the river (more downstream). Penalty when crossing unless to or from a settlement (implying that in that case, there is a bridge).

Moving through oceans or lakes is trickier. I'll probably make water movement cheap, but allow crossing into/from it only through the harbours.

 

[Russia is over. The end.]

baturinsky you need to check these links out
demo 1 http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~amitp/game-programming/polygon-map-generation/demo.html
explanation http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~amitp/game-programming/polygon-map-generation/
demo 2 http://mewo2.com/notes/terrain/