D&D 5E Discussion

[JarlFrank]

I had one player for a month straight put me off in joining my game. First was his nightly Fortnite bullshit and his being called away for a family member for a week. The night before the last game I asked him if he was going to listen. He said he forgot about the game, impossible since I use the Events in Discord to remind people, and invited all of his friends over to watch UFC. I told him off about wasting my time and tying up a slot at my table for a month. I made it clear that he was being rude to me about it. I kicked him from the Discord server and left his. He made 6 players in a row from Reddit that flaked.

The lesson to take from this: don't look for players on reddit. Reddit is a den of faggots and retards. Of course they would flake.

Funnily enough, the only reddit player who was always there and a really valuable addition to the group was a woman. She notified everyone that she'd be away for an extended amount of time and was okay with having her character killed off, but while she was in the game, she made it to every session reliably.

 

[JamesDixon]

I had one player for a month straight put me off in joining my game. First was his nightly Fortnite bullshit and his being called away for a family member for a week. The night before the last game I asked him if he was going to listen. He said he forgot about the game, impossible since I use the Events in Discord to remind people, and invited all of his friends over to watch UFC. I told him off about wasting my time and tying up a slot at my table for a month. I made it clear that he was being rude to me about it. I kicked him from the Discord server and left his. He made 6 players in a row from Reddit that flaked.

The lesson to take from this: don't look for players on reddit. Reddit is a den of faggots and retards. Of course they would flake.

Funnily enough, the only reddit player who was always there and a really valuable addition to the group was a woman. She notified everyone that she'd be away for an extended amount of time and was okay with having her character killed off, but while she was in the game, she made it to every session reliably.

She is an honorary Codex member because she was a great player and showed up for the game. I don't count her as being part of the reddit group of retarded faggots.

 

[halkony2012]

That is false. I texted him that I wasn't interested anymore after 3 weeks of back and forth. He cancelled each session personally. I don't know why you are so angry about what I've posted.

I have no reason to believe you aren't a competent GM? I guess you think my posts are sarcastic. I meant what I said, I said I was glad to hear you considered starting a campaign for amateurs. I don't know why you claim to dislike me but at the same time want to work for my approval.

I appreciate the thoughtful reply. There seems to be some miscommunication in this thread about professionalism, which is what JamesDixon is angry about.

You left that out of your tale of woe which is a you problem. My statements are in regards to what you specifically wrote. If you failed to provide the necessary information that is on you.

I don't dislike you. I don't even know who you are which is a requirement for me to be angry/dislike someone. You could be an advanced AI for all I know. I choose not to assume anything about anyone until I know them better.

This is the Codex. Everyone is sarcastic. Not everyone is angry. I most certainly am not.

What I found distasteful in you and your tale of woe is how you flaked on someone after they put in the effort to work you into their game. You didn't even try from your account. These are your words, so if you're leaving something out that is a you problem.

I really do try to work with players and help them to join the game. I bend over backwards and walk them through the process of character creation. However, there are a large group of Millennials and Gen Z that don't give one shit about you or your time. They'll put off doing stuff then disappear or they'll just flake and never join the game.

I had one player for a month straight put me off in joining my game. First was his nightly Fortnite bullshit and his being called away for a family member for a week. The night before the last game I asked him if he was going to listen. He said he forgot about the game, impossible since I use the Events in Discord to remind people, and invited all of his friends over to watch UFC. I told him off about wasting my time and tying up a slot at my table for a month. I made it clear that he was being rude to me about it. I kicked him from the Discord server and left his. He made 6 players in a row from Reddit that flaked.

These actions not only impact me as the GM, but all of my players. So when someone flakes they're not just doing it to me, but the other players in the game who are expecting new people to show up when they say they will.

I was raised that once you give your word you do what you can to keep it. I expect nothing less from my players and in my friends. Do I require my players to be there every session? Nope, just that you try to make half of them while giving me advance notice of what's going on. That's the respectful thing to do.

Is it accurate to say that, when you read my post, I reminded you of reddit users that have disrespected you as a DM in the past?

 

[JamesDixon]

Is it accurate to say that, when you read my post, I reminded you of reddit users that have disrespected you as a DM in the past?

No, you are disrespectful to others by your own admission.

If you can't gain wisdom from my post and only see that then I feel sorry for you.

 

[halkony2012]

Is it accurate to say that, when you read my post, I reminded you of reddit users that have disrespected you as a DM in the past?

No, you are disrespectful to others by your own admission.

If you can't gain wisdom from my post and only see that then I feel sorry for you.

That's too bad.

 

[Ismaul]

If we're talking about halkony2012's posts in the previous pages, I don't know what you're reading into it JamesDixon.

I don't see anywhere where halkony disrespects a GM or admits to doing so, just him trying to join some games and it not working out for various reasons, be it a difference in play styles or problems with organization.

Why so aggressive and butthurt? The guy is just sharing his newbie experiences frankly. And we should welcome that.

 

[halkony2012]

If we're talking about halkony2012's posts in the previous pages, I don't know what you're reading into it JamesDixon.

I don't see anywhere where halkony disrespects a GM or admits to doing so, just him trying to join some games and it not working out for various reasons, be it a difference in play styles or problems with organization.

Why so aggressive and butthurt? The guy is just sharing his newbie experiences frankly. And we should welcome that.

I appreciate your sympathy. Some weeks ago I posted in this thread, and he was helpful with the questions I had and considered starting a campaign for amateurs like me. Posting about my experience with a GM making me feel uncomfortable probably made him think that I'd be disrespectful to his time and effort if he ever extended the invitation to me.

Personally, I take pride in my thoughtful communication. I get insecure when I feel that isn't being appreciated, which happened in this case. But that's okay, it's just part of the learning experience for my participation here.

I've simply added JamesDixon to my ignore list. I leave this parting message: Suck my zoomer nuts, old man

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

I've simply added JamesDixon to my ignore list. I leave this parting message: Suck my zoomer nuts, old man

go with a light heart. he reads what he wants which is often the opposite of what you actually said, but it's too late, he chose his reality and will fight for it. and sink with it. it's like dealing with a woman. but with no tits, so no possible upside whatsoever.

 

[Ismaul]

I've simply added [SIZE=13px]JamesDixon[/SIZE] to my ignore list.

Understandable given your interactions, yet unfortunate.

Dixon's a nice guy and a considerate GM, open for input and feedback, despite his sometimes tactless verbal sparring. But we're all cunts on the Codex, everyone has his way of letting the blood flow. I hope you reconsider.

Also, ignoring is for fags.

 

[JamesDixon]

If we're talking about halkony2012's posts in the previous pages, I don't know what you're reading into it JamesDixon.

I don't see anywhere where halkony disrespects a GM or admits to doing so, just him trying to join some games and it not working out for various reasons, be it a difference in play styles or problems with organization.

Why so aggressive and butthurt? The guy is just sharing his newbie experiences frankly. And we should welcome that.

I'm not either of those things. I shared my views and that was it. It's pure unadulterated honesty which is all of a sudden construed as being butthurt and aggressive.

 

[Ismaul]

It's pure unadulterated honesty which is all of a sudden construed as being butthurt and aggressive.

Well, you did assume he disrespected a GM, and proceeded to rebuke him based on that assumption, while stressing you've no patience for the likes of him. Call it whatever you like.

If I percieve it that way despite knowing you, others surely will, as they have. This is why halkony2012's first reaction to your comments was that you must've had bad experiences with players in the past. That was him trying to justify your behavior as an overture to defuse the tension, which you didn't take, unfortunately.

 

[JamesDixon]

It's pure unadulterated honesty which is all of a sudden construed as being butthurt and aggressive.

Well, you did assume he disrespected a GM, and proceeded to rebuke him based on that assumption, while stressing you've no patience for the likes of him. Call it whatever you like.

If I percieve it that way despite knowing you, others surely will, as they have. This is why halkony2012's first reaction to your comments was that you must've had bad experiences with players in the past. That was him trying to justify your behavior as an overture to defuse the tension, which you didn't take, unfortunately.

I in no way rebuked him. I was giving him advice on how to be a good player and to be a better person. I don't know him personally and he left out a lot of details. If trying to help someone is butthurt and aggressive then this world is fucked.

I even explained what expectations are and how I run my groups for him to get insight into this.

 

[JamesDixon]

To clarify a few things. Nothing I said was personal to halkony2012. I said it to help him improve as a person and as a player. There is no malice on my part. I try to help players find joy in the old games and that's it.

 

[Stella Brando]

Boys, boys, boys. Let's get back to discussing:

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

For example, one girl in our group captured a bugbear as a bounty and kept roleplaying weird shit when taking him back to town. She stroked his hair, read portions of her romance novel to him, gagged him, put up her bare feet on him while on horseback. Kept rolling to seduce him. And not in a "haha, the group thinks its funny," kind of way. She seemed kind of desperate to impress the NPC. The fuck? I can suspend my judgement (it's just a game, go crazy), but she did that when her character was alone and that took up ~40 minutes of the session. Her mouth said, "I'm treating the bugbear tenderly to get him to like me," but what I heard was "I'd like to be desirable to the point of being powerful," which kind of describes her as a person.

If you ever want her to fuck off just give her a copy of Temple of Elemental Evil.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

For example, one girl in our group captured a bugbear as a bounty and kept roleplaying weird shit when taking him back to town. She stroked his hair, read portions of her romance novel to him, gagged him, put up her bare feet on him while on horseback. Kept rolling to seduce him. And not in a "haha, the group thinks its funny," kind of way. She seemed kind of desperate to impress the NPC. The fuck? I can suspend my judgement (it's just a game, go crazy), but she did that when her character was alone and that took up ~40 minutes of the session. Her mouth said, "I'm treating the bugbear tenderly to get him to like me," but what I heard was "I'd like to be desirable to the point of being powerful," which kind of describes her as a person.

If you ever want her to fuck off just give her a copy of Temple of Elemental Evil.

I see what you did there.

 

[Larianshill]

You make a subclass named RuneCRAFTER. Do you give it to Wizard or Artificer? If you answered "Wizard", you're qualified to be a WotC developer.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

You make a subclass named RuneCRAFTER. Do you give it to Wizard or Artificer? If you answered "Wizard", you're qualified to be a WotC developer.

How come wizards don't use wisdom?

 

[mediocrepoet]

You make a subclass named RuneCRAFTER. Do you give it to Wizard or Artificer? If you answered "Wizard", you're qualified to be a WotC developer.

Barbarian

 

[ERYFKRAD]

You make a subclass named RuneCRAFTER. Do you give it to Wizard or Artificer? If you answered "Wizard", you're qualified to be a WotC developer.

Barbarian

Nix, we're illiterate

 

[mediocrepoet]

You make a subclass named RuneCRAFTER. Do you give it to Wizard or Artificer? If you answered "Wizard", you're qualified to be a WotC developer.

Barbarian

Nix, we're illiterate

It's drawing line shapes with a twig. Has nothing to do with reading or writing.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

You make a subclass named RuneCRAFTER. Do you give it to Wizard or Artificer? If you answered "Wizard", you're qualified to be a WotC developer.

Barbarian

Nix, we're illiterate

It's drawing line shapes with a twig. Has nothing to do with reading or writing.

Shit I'd know that if I went to school too.

 

[Caim]

You make a subclass named RuneCRAFTER. Do you give it to Wizard or Artificer? If you answered "Wizard", you're qualified to be a WotC developer.

Yes, and Artificer isn't on the Combat Triangle. Wizard it is!

 

[mediocrepoet]

The guy didn't specify the edition used, but I assume 5E. Either way, it's a nice story and I'm pretty sure legitimate because there are things like this run by a librarian in the area here, etc. I think it's great that the games are continuing and still teaching kids to use their imaginations and think critically rather than passively watch tv or similar.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/v8j4t8/my_boss_comes_to_ruin_my_dnd_club_and_it/

Spoiler

My boss comes to ruin my Dnd club and it spectacularly backfires. I also get three more players.

Game Tales
I work in a school and have a group of 8-12 year old kids who play. It’s a relatively new club and I’m a relatively new DM I’ve done about 8 sessions so far.

Backstory: I live and work in an international school so we have staff and pupils from many different countries. Therefore culture is set mainly by the school and the pupils not by the nation the school is in.

I see the school councillor and suggest that role playing would help some of the pupils we have who are quiet, withdrawn and the ones who are on the spectrum. She agrees and supports my proposal. I present it to senior leadership to get a budget and buy some stuff PHB DMG etc etc. They are supportive except for one deputy head (DH) who is a retired American professional sports player. This DH says that they should be doing sport everyday and that extra sport not pretending to be someone you’re not is the answer. DH is widely ignored once councillor and I explain potential benefits.

Session 5: We are short staffed so DH is on duty at school. DH decides that it would be a great idea to come the building I’m in. Of the 10 pupils I have in the library area 7 are there to play Dnd. I tell DH this and DH decides that the 3 who are not playing must be the ‘cool’ kids. So goes to speak to them. 5 minutes into the conversation the girls say they are leaving because they are off to play Dnd. DH tries to convince them to stay and says that they don’t see the point in it. Girls leave and come to play Dnd. DH goes over to the three who are not playing and starts telling them how sport is great and do they want to go and ‘shoot some hoops.’ Three remaining kids get scared they will be outside for sport so then decide they want to watch Dnd too. I now have a party of 7 and 3 kids observing who have never played before! As we begin and I manage to get some premade characters in case they decide they want to join in. They are happy just watching for now. Then DH walks in to ‘supervise’.

I start describing the scene and DH sits with some of the pupils.

‘You’re walking down a corridor. Everyone roll your D20.’
kids enthusiastically roll dice. A swarm of rats is approaching them.
DH ‘what’s the point of this?’ before I can even reply one of the ‘cool’ girls (CG) does.
‘What do you mean what is the point? It’s fun. Oh no these rats are gonna attack us.’
DH: ‘Look there isn’t even a board, I mean what are you even doing?’
CG: ‘We are fighting these rats. You don’t get it don’t worry this is my character sheet and let me explain to you how it works.’
While explaining the character sheet she has a brain wave about the rats
‘You know Brian the Druid might be able to talk to the rats so we don’t need to fight them.’ DH gives a snort when CG says ‘druid’
DH: ‘Brian who is Brian? We don’t even have a Brian.’
CG: ‘Ed’s character is called Brian.’
DH: ‘Oh so Ed can deal with these ‘rats’?’
CG: ‘no it’s his character not him. He can’t deal with rats but he is a druid so he can try and talk to the animals.’

Once some of the rats are killed the three kids who are watching decide that this is amazing, and they want to play too! I give them premade characters and say that they were attacking the rats from the other side and this is how they meet up. I sit them with people who know slightly more and can help them.

DH does not remain silent. But nor does CG.

DH: ‘So how do you know who the winner is. Someone has to win right?’
CG: ‘Yeah us or the rats.’
DH: ‘No I mean like in swimming you have a winner who is your winner?’
CG: ‘There doesn’t always have to be one person who wins does there? Let’s hope no one dies.’
DH: ‘So how do you know you have completed it then?’
CG: ‘We need to restore a city which has disappeared when it comes back then we know we will have won.’
DH: ‘But there is no city. It’s made up.’
This is when I look up and crack a smile.
CG: ‘You know if you think about it, so is all sport. It doesn’t really matter who can swim 50 metres the fastest. That’s not how anyone gets a job. My dad is so fat he never does exercise anyway’
DH: ‘But I’m asking what the point is. How do you know when you have completed it.’
CG: ‘It’s not about completing it, have you completed basketball? It’s about having fun and right now smashing these rats up as Brian FAILED his roll!’

DH makes a last try. ‘I guess I just think this is a waste of time.’
CG and now her other ‘cool’ friends are now joining in.
‘OMG how can you not see the point? Look how great my character is I just showed them to you, and you don’t see the point. Come on we get to do all this cool stuff, and there is real risk because we might die or be captured literally ANYTHING can happen.’

DH offers all ten players to come outside to play a 'real game' and leaves when they all look in disbelief at this.

When DH left the room I made sure the rats were hiding a chest which they found and unlocked and it had a wide selection of snacks in for all to enjoy.

CG is 11 years old! Imagine having such insight at 11. Imagine telling the head coach at your school that ultimately all sport was made up! It was so great, so funny and I thought I’d share it with you all here.

Imagine if I walked into DH's basketball or swimming lesson throwing the same questions around!

Fortunately, DH returned later took a photo of the group and put it in the school paper. I have my hopes that my club will be left alone by DH in future.

And on the experimental side of things the kids on the spectrums have learnt literally ALL of the rules. I have had to explain that my world is different to the players handbook.

The kid who refuses to speak in front of others loves it and now will talk to the group but only as his character and the councillor is happy as she gets to report progress with development.

Didn't know if this was 'out of game' or 'game tales' as I am relatively new to Reddit.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

The guy didn't specify the edition used, but I assume 5E. Either way, it's a nice story and I'm pretty sure legitimate because there are things like this run by a librarian in the area here, etc. I think it's great that the games are continuing and still teaching kids to use their imaginations and think critically rather than passively watch tv or similar.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/v8j4t8/my_boss_comes_to_ruin_my_dnd_club_and_it/

Spoiler

My boss comes to ruin my Dnd club and it spectacularly backfires. I also get three more players.

Game Tales
I work in a school and have a group of 8-12 year old kids who play. It’s a relatively new club and I’m a relatively new DM I’ve done about 8 sessions so far.

Backstory: I live and work in an international school so we have staff and pupils from many different countries. Therefore culture is set mainly by the school and the pupils not by the nation the school is in.

I see the school councillor and suggest that role playing would help some of the pupils we have who are quiet, withdrawn and the ones who are on the spectrum. She agrees and supports my proposal. I present it to senior leadership to get a budget and buy some stuff PHB DMG etc etc. They are supportive except for one deputy head (DH) who is a retired American professional sports player. This DH says that they should be doing sport everyday and that extra sport not pretending to be someone you’re not is the answer. DH is widely ignored once councillor and I explain potential benefits.

Session 5: We are short staffed so DH is on duty at school. DH decides that it would be a great idea to come the building I’m in. Of the 10 pupils I have in the library area 7 are there to play Dnd. I tell DH this and DH decides that the 3 who are not playing must be the ‘cool’ kids. So goes to speak to them. 5 minutes into the conversation the girls say they are leaving because they are off to play Dnd. DH tries to convince them to stay and says that they don’t see the point in it. Girls leave and come to play Dnd. DH goes over to the three who are not playing and starts telling them how sport is great and do they want to go and ‘shoot some hoops.’ Three remaining kids get scared they will be outside for sport so then decide they want to watch Dnd too. I now have a party of 7 and 3 kids observing who have never played before! As we begin and I manage to get some premade characters in case they decide they want to join in. They are happy just watching for now. Then DH walks in to ‘supervise’.

I start describing the scene and DH sits with some of the pupils.

‘You’re walking down a corridor. Everyone roll your D20.’
kids enthusiastically roll dice. A swarm of rats is approaching them.
DH ‘what’s the point of this?’ before I can even reply one of the ‘cool’ girls (CG) does.
‘What do you mean what is the point? It’s fun. Oh no these rats are gonna attack us.’
DH: ‘Look there isn’t even a board, I mean what are you even doing?’
CG: ‘We are fighting these rats. You don’t get it don’t worry this is my character sheet and let me explain to you how it works.’
While explaining the character sheet she has a brain wave about the rats
‘You know Brian the Druid might be able to talk to the rats so we don’t need to fight them.’ DH gives a snort when CG says ‘druid’
DH: ‘Brian who is Brian? We don’t even have a Brian.’
CG: ‘Ed’s character is called Brian.’
DH: ‘Oh so Ed can deal with these ‘rats’?’
CG: ‘no it’s his character not him. He can’t deal with rats but he is a druid so he can try and talk to the animals.’

Once some of the rats are killed the three kids who are watching decide that this is amazing, and they want to play too! I give them premade characters and say that they were attacking the rats from the other side and this is how they meet up. I sit them with people who know slightly more and can help them.

DH does not remain silent. But nor does CG.

DH: ‘So how do you know who the winner is. Someone has to win right?’
CG: ‘Yeah us or the rats.’
DH: ‘No I mean like in swimming you have a winner who is your winner?’
CG: ‘There doesn’t always have to be one person who wins does there? Let’s hope no one dies.’
DH: ‘So how do you know you have completed it then?’
CG: ‘We need to restore a city which has disappeared when it comes back then we know we will have won.’
DH: ‘But there is no city. It’s made up.’
This is when I look up and crack a smile.
CG: ‘You know if you think about it, so is all sport. It doesn’t really matter who can swim 50 metres the fastest. That’s not how anyone gets a job. My dad is so fat he never does exercise anyway’
DH: ‘But I’m asking what the point is. How do you know when you have completed it.’
CG: ‘It’s not about completing it, have you completed basketball? It’s about having fun and right now smashing these rats up as Brian FAILED his roll!’

DH makes a last try. ‘I guess I just think this is a waste of time.’
CG and now her other ‘cool’ friends are now joining in.
‘OMG how can you not see the point? Look how great my character is I just showed them to you, and you don’t see the point. Come on we get to do all this cool stuff, and there is real risk because we might die or be captured literally ANYTHING can happen.’

DH offers all ten players to come outside to play a 'real game' and leaves when they all look in disbelief at this.

When DH left the room I made sure the rats were hiding a chest which they found and unlocked and it had a wide selection of snacks in for all to enjoy.

CG is 11 years old! Imagine having such insight at 11. Imagine telling the head coach at your school that ultimately all sport was made up! It was so great, so funny and I thought I’d share it with you all here.

Imagine if I walked into DH's basketball or swimming lesson throwing the same questions around!

Fortunately, DH returned later took a photo of the group and put it in the school paper. I have my hopes that my club will be left alone by DH in future.

And on the experimental side of things the kids on the spectrums have learnt literally ALL of the rules. I have had to explain that my world is different to the players handbook.

The kid who refuses to speak in front of others loves it and now will talk to the group but only as his character and the councillor is happy as she gets to report progress with development.

Didn't know if this was 'out of game' or 'game tales' as I am relatively new to Reddit.

Lmao even special kids don't waste time on rat diplomacy.