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Interview DAC Interviews Todd Howard

NeutralMilkHotel

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Milktooth said:
I just read the interview and quite frankly I think it sounds like Pete Hines is feeding us more bullshit to keep us quiet. Deep down inside we all know the game's gonna be in real time and just like every one of Bethesda's previous games it's gonna suck a copious amount of semen, but the retarded fanboys who buy all their games are gonna gobble this one up too. I have no doubt that Fallout 3 will be in real time like all their previous games, and it will suck.

Anyone who buys into this bullshit has to be dumber than a retarded chimpanzee.

I say give the development to Troika like it rightfully deserves to be and have them deliver the proper sequel to Fallout 3, instead of giving the usurpers at Bethesda and and their court jester Pete "Full of Shit" Hines their day. Who's with me?


First off, it wasn't Pete Hines. Second, I do think Todd sucked up a little too much to the fallout fans in a couple of answers, but I can understand. He probably just wants to repair the relationship with the fans.

Third, if Troika did manage to get it, you would probably kiss turn-based goodbye since they said themselves it would be highly unlikley to pitch it to a publisher and succeed. On top of that, plenty of people (that I somewhat agree with) think Troika and their games are not that great, and always fall short whether it be in bugs or combat (no matter how much integrity or good intentions they may have). Add their new problem of them supposedly close to shutting down.

Seems to me like a recipe for failure if troika were to get it (or atleast, a good chance at failure).

You can keep on being a pessimist and calling them full of shit, and trying to raddle people against bethesda, but it'll get you nowhere. Heh, besides just a bunch of angry people on internet message boards, but if you dig that, go right ahead. It's obvious Todd and others are reading our thoughts on all of this and taking it in, that's a great thing. Will they actually make a good game from the input they obviously have? Who knows at this point.
 

Milktooth

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You're a fucking moron if you didn't think Bethesda's PR monkey Pete "Full of Shit" Hines didn't go over the interview word by word when Todd was writing it. Kid, it looks like you have no obvious grasp of how PR works so kindly shut the fuck up. Adults are talking.

If Troika managed to get it they would deliver a game far more dedicated to the original Fallout game which Tim Cain wrote the story to, after all, than anything that shithouse Bethesda would be able to come up with.

If I were to sum up an analogy for this particular situation: Would you rather prefer that some shitty ripoff company like Hyundai build BMW cars or have BMW do the construction themselves? Who knows their cars more than BMW? The answer is no one. The same is with Fallout.

You can keep sucking Todd Howard's dick if you want but the rest of us adults know better than to think Bethesda can come up with anything better than Derek Smart when they share a similar shitty track record with game development.
 

NeutralMilkHotel

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Keeping an open mind is sucking a persons cock eh?

What the fuck have I been doing with my life!!!! :oops:

SWEET MERCIFUL FUCK, I'M A FUCKING TODDLER!!!! I'M IN THE WOMB AHHHHH!!!!

Ok fountain of all knowledge, Sir, Mr. Adult. Continue with your omniscients.

:roll:

You're right, stupidity sucks.
 

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I love new members. Especially when they fight.

n00b f1t3! r4h!

It's a nice change of pace from the regulars fighting.
 

taks

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Milktooth said:
You're a fucking moron if you didn't think Bethesda's PR monkey Pete "Full of Shit" Hines didn't go over the interview word by word when Todd was writing it. Kid, it looks like you have no obvious grasp of how PR works so kindly shut the fuck up. Adults are talking.
i can tell...

If Troika managed to get it they would deliver a game far more dedicated to the original Fallout game which Tim Cain wrote the story to, after all, than anything that shithouse Bethesda would be able to come up with.
uh, chris taylor wrote the story, AFAIK.

If I were to sum up an analogy for this particular situation: Would you rather prefer that some shitty ripoff company like Hyundai build BMW cars or have BMW do the construction themselves? Who knows their cars more than BMW? The answer is no one. The same is with Fallout.
i'd rather have a company that has a track record of success develop it, personally, regardless of which company that is. i don't particularly like MW, either, but it has sold amazingly well and is a relatively high quality game (minus the damn dialog system). i can't help but believe these guys are aware of the issues with MW and plan to correct the issues... troika tends to repeat the same problems.

You can keep sucking Todd Howard's dick if you want but the rest of us adults know better than to think Bethesda can come up with anything better than Derek Smart when they share a similar shitty track record with game development.
???
hmmm, troika maybe going under, MW = game of the year and bethesda is rolling in the dough. i think you're attributing "track records" incorrectly. i agree DS is an idiot, however...

taks
 

taks

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Saint_Proverbius said:
It's a nice change of pace from the regulars fighting.
hell, even sherrif05 and i don't fight anymore...
times they are a changin'.
taks
 

Mech

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I wonder if Milktooth actually suspects anyone to take him seriously? It's funny to read at least anyway cause it's so over the top it can't be taken seriously even if someone tried. :lol:

I found that interview, somewhat, interesting anyway. He did seem to be sucking up to the fans alot as someone mentioned, but that IS what alot of them wanted in the first place it seems, so I can't exactly blame him for it. Im more interested in whether or not Bethesda is gonna take a risk with turn-based or not. That information should be one of the fitst bits that the public will probably learn about, so at least we won't have to wait too long to know what their intentions are. Im glad they are sticking with SPECIAL thought. I found it kind of awkward at times in Fallout 1 and 2, but it's unique and uniqueness is rare nowadays.
 

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I really don't think anyone wanted Bethesda to "suck up" as much as we just wanted to be reassured that (what many of us consider) the most important aspects of Fallout would be intact in FO3.
 

Volourn

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"I wonder if Milktooth actually suspects anyone to take him seriously? It's funny to read at least anyway cause it's so over the top it can't be taken seriously even if someone tried."

From what I gather; that's the point. Afterall, he's calling everyone 'kiddo' or 'immature' yet he's swearing every second word. That's the kind of 'maturity' FOBOS bragged about as well.

Or he's just trying to be a hyped up version of me for the other side.

R00fles!

Anyways, as far as the interview goes. It's Betehsda; FO3 gonna suck if they develop it. Just a fact.
 

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Well, besides everything...Bethesda people do occasoinaly come over to comment. Not a lot of developers do that around here anymore (wonder why? :roll: ) And that puts them a notch higher than usual in my book.

I just hope they will make a new dialogue system and more interesting npc's though, that was what was the main failure in all their previous games....
 
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Well, I'm not one to engage in the futile self-flagelation that is argueing on the net, however Mr. Tooth, I can only assume someone poured Venice Beach into your bacon strip.
Bethesda is a company, so it's not that big a revelation to say that a PR man is involed with an interview that was related to the public. *gasp*

Your idea of track record is unique in the fact that it disregards actual track records.

Bethesda has a successful game under it's belt, one with awards and numerous accolades as well (Whether or not you feel they are deserved is niether here nor there, and misses the point), whereas Troika, regardless of the fact that I respect their gumption, does not.

The beef that you (and I'd say most if not all here) have is that Bes makes graphic engines first then tacks a game into it as opposed to creating a well scripted game, then building the world around it.
( Which in the movie buisness, creating a film based on visuals first, script second tends to result in disaster)

I would work on your tactics as a whole. As it stands, if I were to show you my cd collection you'd reply:
"Yeah, I liked that band, back when they we're cool. Now their a bunch of sellouts!!"
 

Major_Blackhart

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"Anyways, as far as the interview goes. It's Betehsda; FO3 gonna suck if they develop it. Just a fact."

Gotta agree with ya there Volourn.
 
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Hey. I took him serously. Thats...um...that's what this is for right??

Anyway, in the interview, TW spoke about the possibility of releasing a toolset along with it. So, what does everyone think of that?
 

Major_Blackhart

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I'm honestly not even hopeful. They have no experience with TB games, from my understanding, and what they think is fun and what we think is fun are 2 differend things.
 

kathode

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Milktooth said:
You're a fucking moron if you didn't think Bethesda's PR monkey Pete "Full of Shit" Hines didn't go over the interview word by word when Todd was writing it. Kid, it looks like you have no obvious grasp of how PR works so kindly shut the fuck up. Adults are talking.

Pete does go over it and make suggestions, but ultimately Todd is the one who decides what to write and what to say. He's pretty much the studio head, after all. The real beauty of being a small, independent, privately held publisher and developer is that no one outside our development group tells us what to do. That philosophy holds true with our games, and even our interviews, and it's been pretty successful thus far :)
 

Surlent

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Just asking, is Todd the guy who took away Xbows from Oblivion ??
Change for the sake of popularity and focused gameplay to bows to improve their functionality.....hmmm.... dunno still what to make of that.
 

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Milktooth said:
I have no doubt that Fallout 3 will be in real time like all their previous games, and it will suck. Anyone who buys into this bullshit has to be dumber than a retarded chimpanzee.
Uuk.
 

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Surlent said:
Just asking, is Todd the guy who took away Xbows from Oblivion ??.
Yep, that's the guy and the genius behind "statistically gamers prefer shorter games and often do not finish more involved titles" concept
 

Milktooth

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Having Bethesda develop a game is like having a retard be president of a country and run a war. Wait a sec! That's Dubya.
 

Mech

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and in both cases, they're more successfull then you'll ever be! :lol:
 

Mangler

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Remember he got 52% of the vote.

He must be doing SOMETHING right, even if all it is is PR.

Bethseda has time + money to throw at fallout, their OWN money.
(and lots of it too....)

What if they did a Phase-baised/Turn-baised game, and 'forgot' to mention that on the box itself...

If you are buying this in a game store, you probably won't care about the previous fallouts/know of them. You see: Publisher/Developer: Bethseda, good GFX, neat Post-Apoc. world, item creation, large story...the usuall RPG selling points (minus detailed talk about combat).

There would be lots of screen shots on the back, but curiously none of combat...
Then the average joe would probably buy the game.

The average Fallout/TB/discerning fan would already have read a few reviews, and know what they are getting. (however the average public I bet does not always read many reviews, the big game sites will of course have glowing reviews of this game... and if not then beth. must increase the bribes... :twisted: )
and buy it as well.

everybody wins...mostly. (mind you this is all being VERY optimistic)
 

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Mangler said:
If you are buying this in a game store, you probably won't care about the previous fallouts/know of them. You see: Publisher/Developer: Bethseda, good GFX, neat Post-Apoc. world, item creation, large story...the usuall RPG selling points (minus detailed talk about combat).

Better yet. If BioWare could convince the world that KotOR2 was turn based when it was just real time with pause, then maybe Bethesda could make Fallout 3 turn based and just tell everyone it's real time.
 

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