Editorial Diablo 3 'disappointing' according to Bethesda Director

[kingcomrade]

I can't believe this dork said what he said.

 

[Volourn]

"Quote For Truth. At least Blizzard cares about their fans."

Umm.. No, they don't. They care about money. The methods are ddifferent; but the goal is the same for both comapnies - make tons of money.

Fans are scumbags. No company should care about those shitheads.

 

[Herbert West]

Beth is butthurt about a game that doesn't exist yet that will beat their game that isn't released yet.
They'll have to visit a proctologist when Diablo 3 hits the marked, I suppose.

 

[Volourn]

Meh. Last i checked, it's not like Beth is in the poor house.

 

[elander_]

Quote For Truth. At least Blizzard cares about their fans. Bethesda only cares about money from next-gen games. Bethesda should go to hell.

Blizzard cares for gameplay because they know that good graphics alone would not give them the leadership position they have in the games business.

 

[Lurkar]

I think one of the big differences is that Blizzard sees their name as a product to be sold and kept in high demand. Thus their "Masterpiece or nothing" policy with games.

 

[kingcomrade]

Too bad Warcraft 3 sucked so hard

 

[Mareus]

I'm definitely missing something. When actually bethsoft did innovation? In what game? Their games are the all the same with new graphics. Or what's the point?

The innovation is next gen action shooter open ended RPGs. In other words, RPGs with no roleplaying and shooters which can't compare with shooters.

PS. Daggerfall and Morrowing were pretty innovative though if you ask me.

 

[Mareus]

"Quote For Truth. At least Blizzard cares about their fans."

Umm.. No, they don't. They care about money. The methods are ddifferent; but the goal is the same for both comapnies - make tons of money.

Fans are scumbags. No company should care about those shitheads.

True, but if Blizzard was making Fallout 3, they would stick to the old tested formula which worked 10 years ago and they would refine it just a bit to make it better and more interesting. Also their game would be super polished. Even if they do it for the money, they would do it in a way that fans would not feel betrayed. Blizzard understands how to treat a brand, they understand each brand has it's followers which will buy the product even if does not offer anything new. Fallout is a brand, it's not just a game. Bethcrap completely removed the core what made Fallout so special and now offers next gen FPS/RPG with Qui Gon as your dad. It's the same as if someone took Star Trek and tried to make Star Wars out of it hoping to appeal to large masses. YOU JUST CAN'T FUCKING DO THAT!!!! If you want to make another Star Wars, go make your own brand, don't fucking screw with Star Trek!!

 

[RainSong]

Too bad Warcraft 3 sucked so hard

ke? Maybe it sucked for Blizz standards but if any other company would release it, W3 would probably be their best game ever, so it's kind of lame to say it was a sucky game.

As for the Blizz vs Beth.

Dudes from Blizz are like rockstars - ye they do it for money but it's only half true, as money are only product of their love for what they do.

Dudes from Beth are like pussy pop princesses (just like Volourn) - they would do everything for money and it just happens to be some mediacore products called games.

 

[Mareus]

Too bad Warcraft 3 sucked so hard

ke? Maybe it sucked for Blizz standards but if any other company would release it, W3 would probably be their best game ever, so it's kind of lame to say it was a sucky game.

W3 was Blizzards attempt to bring new graphic aproach to a very old serie. That is why a lot of "fans" didn't like the third part. It was just a bit too cartoonish but it was still a very good game and I agree if it was named anything else it would be a total success. But Blizzard did similar graphics in WOW, so again you can see that they are trying to make a brand out of it. And they succeeded. No one today can even imagine Warcraft without cartoonish style.

 

[Ausir]

My main issue with WarCraft 3 is not the look, it's the gameplay. The single player campaign was pretty bad, I only played it for the cool movies. Maybe it's better in multiplayer, but I wasn't interested in that.

 

[Araanor]

Warcraft 3 was weaker than Starcraft, simply.

 

[Mareus]

My main issue with WarCraft 3 is not the look, it's the gameplay. The single player campaign was pretty bad, I only played it for the cool movies. Maybe it's better in multiplayer, but I wasn't interested in that.

You do have a point there. The gameplay just missed something. I can't remember what though. I remember playing it until the main character became evil. I enjoyed it, but somehow I just liked the W2 better. Can't really point my finger in what it was though.

 

[Trash]

Can't really point my finger in what it was though.

More involving and interesting maps. In WC3 they often play like a puzzle of sorts. WC2 had a few of these as well, but also had good old simple battles untill you destroy the enemy base.

 

[Volourn]

"Bethcrap completely removed the core what made Fallout so special and now offers next gen FPS/RPG with Qui Gon as your dad."

Who should Beth care about? The few thousand hardcore FO fans who give a shit about it; or the million+ of THEIR fans who enjoyed Oblivion?

Bethesda knows where their moneyc omes from - espicially since the real hardcore FOers are gonna buy (or for the really pathetic, steal) FO3 anyways.

You don't have to attempt to sell games to the hardcore audience for ther most part. They're gonna spend their money anyways. It's the waffling masses who only play games as a past time not a hobby.

That's why we interent geeks are for the most part irrelevant.

 

[Armacalypse]

Volourn has a point in that no matter how bad Bethesda makes FO3 the fans are still going to get it. Some pathetic fool might even buy it.

 

[Ahzaruuk]

I'd say it's a funny world, I'm actually expecting a Diablo game more than a Fallout game.

Quote For Truth. At least Blizzard cares about their fans. Bethesda only cares about money from next-gen games. Bethesda should go to hell.

Blizzard just gives the Illusion that they give a shit about the fans.

 

[Unradscorpion]

Yeah, Volourn we're all doomed and hardcore Internet users don't have a say in any matter, ever. We get it already.

 

[Mareus]

"Bethcrap completely removed the core what made Fallout so special and now offers next gen FPS/RPG with Qui Gon as your dad."

Who should Beth care about? The few thousand hardcore FO fans who give a shit about it; or the million+ of THEIR fans who enjoyed Oblivion?

Bethesda knows where their moneyc omes from - espicially since the real hardcore FOers are gonna buy (or for the really pathetic, steal) FO3 anyways.

You don't have to attempt to sell games to the hardcore audience for ther most part. They're gonna spend their money anyways. It's the waffling masses who only play games as a past time not a hobby.

That's why we interent geeks are for the most part irrelevant.

Whether or not FO3 will sell or not is really not important. It will probably sell well on consoles, but you missed my whole point. I wasn't saying how Blizzard would make more money, I was saying how it is wrong to treat a brand in such a manner just to appeal to large masses. Blizzard has so far shown respect towards their games and the reason why they do it is not really important. They are not trying to make FPS out of Diablo 3. They are not trying to make FPS out of Starcratft 2. They respect the brand they created and the boundries in which such a game works. If they wanted to make FPS, they would just create something new. Bethcrap on the other hand bought Fallout license and removed it's heart! Squashed it, buttraped it, took out it's bones, done complete plastic surgery, shit and pissed on it, turned it inside out and made a 3D FPS next gen shooter action RPG out of it!!! They didn't need to waste all that money on Fallout license if they wanted to create something completely different. You just can't do it. Its fucking wrong! It's like buying Star Trek license so you could make a Star Wars clone out of it. Such shit should be forbidden by law!!!

 

[denizsi]

Someone that's somebody in the industry should come out and say that Bethesda has lost any innovation they might have had and worse, they've been totally stuck in the past. They have been making first person games for 15 years now, the first being in 1993. That's older than Fallout. They should just move on now, from first person. Would be funny.

 

[Castanova]

Bethesda's next title should ship with 3D glasses.

 

[elander_]

Volourn has a point in that no matter how bad Bethesda makes FO3 the fans are still going to get it. Some pathetic fool might even buy it.

Yes, the idiots always throe their money away to find out they don't like the games they buy and then come to the internet complaining how much the game sucks like the bunch of pathetic losers they are. ha ha ha

 

[kingcomrade]

You played Warcraft 3 for the cool movies? There were no cool movies, they were all boring and lolepic.

 

[MasPingon]

You played Warcraft 3 for the cool movies? There were no cool movies, they were all boring and lolepic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvFhXXJpgJM

Yeah, boring as hell

I would play this game secound time just to see this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJpZaip2QjQ

Thank god for those video-stream portals