Incline Disco Elysium - The Final Cut - a hardboiled cop show isometric RPG

[Havoc]

Does Disco Elysium raise our expectations of the RPGs of 2020?

PC Gamer

 

[felipepepe]

Blah, blah, blah we need more games like Disco but probably not so radical. Am I right?

On the contrary, most of them are basically saying that thinking is hard and that they prefer dumb power fantasies. I mean:

It was rather exhausting, really, and definitely not something I want from every RPG going forward—I'm very happy with games like The Outer Worlds because they're fun and breezy and don't hammer your brain into mush every couple of minutes.

A cool quote about Disco is how the devs wanted it to be hard for players to play their character, to struggle and fail when trying to act cool, do something smart or whatever. These people clearly don't want that, they want to be Geralt, kill monsters with ease, always sound cool and feel smart by following bring footsteps with detective vision...

 

[Verylittlefishes]

These people clearly don't want that, they want to be Geralt, kill monsters with ease, always sound cool and feel smart by following bring footsteps with detective vision...

Wasn't W3 GOTY here?

 

[Prime Junta]

These people clearly don't want that, they want to be Geralt, kill monsters with ease, always sound cool and feel smart by following bring footsteps with detective vision...

Wasn't W3 GOTY here?

Codex is no exception. "Fuck you, I just want an escapist fantasy where I slay monsters, bang babes, and get filthy rich and powerful" is a pretty common sentiment whenever somebody brings up something that even aims a little higher.

 

[Daidre]

Codex is no exception. "Fuck you, I just want an escapist fantasy where I slay monsters, bang babes, and get filthy rich and powerful" is a pretty common sentiment whenever somebody brings up something that even aims a little higher.

Well, no escapist fantasy could compare with how proud I felt every time when HDB (and I) could do at least something right.

 

[overly excitable young man]

Witcher 3 aimed low and hit the target.
Disco aimed high and hit the princess.

 

[Prime Junta]

Well, no escapist fantasy in a while could compare with how proud I felt every time when HDB (and me) could do at least something right.

Same.

Thing with Disco is that kind of paradoxically since it has almost no combat, it feels more dangerous and fraught than any power fantasy. Power fantasies are only pretend-dangerous, you know you have script immunity and the reload button so dying doesn't count and there's rarely any other way to fail than that.

Disco OTOH doesn't give you script immunity and makes you feel it. You can and do fuck up and feel terrible about it, in fact in some places there is no way to not fuck up. That makes those breakthroughs and moments of success stand out, it feels like you earned them, they weren't just served to you by the designers.

(The fact that this is to a significant extent an illusion, a sleight of hand, is a different matter. The feeling is there though, and is one of the reasons it affected me so powerfully.)

 

[Lord_Potato]

Witcher 3 aimed low and hit the target.
Disco aimed high and hit the princess.

Said a guy whose highest ambition is slaying giants in Knights of the Chalice

Go back to your power fantasies*, lad.

* I have nothing against the very concept of power fantasies. I also indulge in them. But one should not limit oneself to consuming pulp only. Sometimes it's good to try something different, more ambitious and thought-provoking.

 

[overly excitable young man]

I will remind you when Zaum releases the Cuck Simulator 2023.
So thought-provoking...

 

[Daidre]

You can and do fuck up and feel terrible about it, in fact in some places there is no way to not fuck up.

Evrart's chair is very memorable in this department. Healing items won't let you die there but only a high Pain Threshold will help to save a tiniest part of your dignity.

Never been so hilariously humiliated in video game and I really hope that I won't need to relive this experience on some job interview IRL, ever.

 

[Harthwain]

Evrart's chair is very memorable in this department. Healing items won't let you die there but only a high Pain Threshold will help to save a tiniest part of your dignity.

Composure can also help.

 

[JarlFrank]

You can and do fuck up and feel terrible about it, in fact in some places there is no way to not fuck up.

Evrart's chair is very memorable in this department. Healing items won't let you die there but only a high Pain Threshold will help to save a tiniest part of your dignity.

Never been so hilariously humiliated in video game and I really hope that I won't need to relive this experience on some job interview IRL, ever.

I died the first time I used that chair.
Second time around, instead of stacking up on healing items, I tried to be clever and tell Evrart I'd stand.
But he insisted I sit down.
I had no choice but to use the chair.
Evrart you fucker.

 

[Tigranes]

You can and do fuck up and feel terrible about it, in fact in some places there is no way to not fuck up.

Evrart's chair is very memorable in this department. Healing items won't let you die there but only a high Pain Threshold will help to save a tiniest part of your dignity.

Never been so hilariously humiliated in video game and I really hope that I won't need to relive this experience on some job interview IRL, ever.

I died the first time I used that chair.
Second time around, instead of stacking up on healing items, I tried to be clever and tell Evrart I'd stand.
But he insisted I sit down.
I had no choice but to use the chair.
Evrart you fucker.

Fighting Evrart is like killing wolves in Arcanum

And your name is Chris

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Evrart's chair is very memorable in this department. Healing items won't let you die there but only a high Pain Threshold will help to save a tiniest part of your dignity.

Never been so hilariously humiliated in video game and I really hope that I won't need to relive this experience on some job interview IRL, ever.

I died the first time I used that chair.
Second time around, instead of stacking up on healing items, I tried to be clever and tell Evrart I'd stand.
But he insisted I sit down.
I had no choice but to use the chair.
Evrart you fucker.

My high pysche Superstar cop had enough volition to beat Evrart at his own game and avoid the chair.

 

[Daidre]

Evrart's chair is very memorable in this department. Healing items won't let you die there but only a high Pain Threshold will help to save a tiniest part of your dignity.

Composure can also help.

I died the first time I used that chair.
Second time around, instead of stacking up on healing items, I tried to be clever and tell Evrart I'd stand.
But he insisted I sit down.

My high pysche Superstar cop had enough volition to beat Evrart at his own game and avoid the chair.

Nothing but a proofs that character build in DE does affect gaming experience.

 

[The_Mask]

senile overeducated man cries at letters

Shut up, Maxie, you old turd.

You'd want us to define emotions using numbers, I bet.

Spoiler

It won't happen.

 

[AwesomeButton]

My high pysche Superstar cop had enough volition to beat Evrart at his own game and avoid the chair.

Shit, I didn't think it was possible. Great job Zaum

 

[Prime Junta]

This "making of" article just popped up on my Twitter feed: https://www.gamesradar.com/the-maki...-one-of-the-most-original-rpgs-of-the-decade/

 

[AwesomeButton]

This "making of" article just popped up on my Twitter feed: https://www.gamesradar.com/the-maki...-one-of-the-most-original-rpgs-of-the-decade/

I read it. A bit typical puffed up article about the "humble origins" and "underdog success" but between the cliches there is interesting stuff. The moral for me is that you get good at your craft frist, then you go developing interactive products using it - whether writng, art or something else.

I didn't know about Rostov being an expert on videogame history, and I don't get it why is Estonia "loser-ville" now?

 

[Prime Junta]

I don't get it why is Estonia "loser-ville" now?

It's loser-ville and winner-ville. Estonia is one of the most right-wing countries in Europe, economically and otherwise. If you're among the winners, you get to enjoy low tax rates, relatively low prices, and first-world living standards. If you're not, you're SOL.

Robert & co were SOL for a long time. Along with a lot of others.

 

[Herald of Durance]

The article is so full of self-deprecation and references to drinking...it's no wonder that Mr. Du Bois feels so realistic.

 

[Kasparov]

This "making of" article just popped up on my Twitter feed: https://www.gamesradar.com/the-maki...-one-of-the-most-original-rpgs-of-the-decade/

And I made your mums a mixtape.

Run her a nice hot bath. Don't forget to add a drop of shampoo. Light some beeswax candles and put this on for her:

Spoiler

She'll thank you later.

 

[fantadomat]

This "making of" article just popped up on my Twitter feed: https://www.gamesradar.com/the-maki...-one-of-the-most-original-rpgs-of-the-decade/

And I made your mums a mixtape.

Run her a nice hot bath. Don't forget to add a drop of shampoo. Light some beeswax candles and put this on for her:

Spoiler

She'll thank you later.

You have a square face. Also strangely you don't look like a faggot,huh you learn something new every day.

 

[Tigranes]

The life of fantadomat: goes around the Internet, inspects random dudes faces very closely for fagness

 

[PrK]

The takeaway is that Kasparov was in the final stretch for his Master’s and still managed to finish PoE multiple times..






But really, great job and very informative video.