Incline Disco Elysium - The Final Cut - a hardboiled cop show isometric RPG

[KVVRR]

I don't care whether or not it's an RPG if it's better than the vast mayority of games out there.

 

[Sweeper]

I don't care whether or not it's an RPG if it's better than the vast mayority of games out there.

Sure is buddy. It sure is.

 

[Terenty]

Still not an RPG.
You guys should go play a real RPG. Like Pathfinder Kingmaker.

I actually tried recently, but ufortunatelly it suffers greatly from WALLS of painfully generic and boring text. It's like the setting and the characters of the game were randomly generated in some kind of fantasy editor.

I'm sorry, but if you want to put a fucking book in your game make sure its interesting and engaging and your game's format supports it(like Disco Elysium for exame), or better yet, if your game is a hardcore rpg(like Pathfinder) then have a decency to make your dialogue and descriptions brief and to the point ala Baldur's Gate 2, Fallout, Arcanum.

Poe suffered from that, Numenera suffered and now Pathfinder unfortunately.

 

[Erikkolai]

I love how politically unbiased this game is. The devs kick in all directions of the political quadrant. It's rare to be self-critical like that, hard to tell what the devs truly believe.

 

[Thac0]

I love how politically unbiased this game is. The devs kick in all directions of the political quadrant. It's rare to be self-critical like that, hard to tell what the devs truly believe.

This is post revolution bro, the communists already shot all the anarchists. Cindy is the last living one

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While the political compass is a funny load of bullshit on a starsign level of usefullness in political discussion

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the game still has an apparent left wing bias as discussed further up in the thread

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but who cares really

 

[Joseph Stalin]

As someone very early into the game, I would like to receive an answer to a minor question - is there any in-game reason why Authority, amongst all the Personalities, is the only one whose avatar is not warped/grotesque/abstract in any way?

 

[Thac0]

As someone very early into the game, I would like to receive an answer to a minor question - is there any in-game reason why Authority, amongst all the Personalities, is the only one whose avatar is not warped/grotesque/abstract in any way?

IDK looks plenty warped/abstract to me, especially with the near perfect symmetry. Complete symmetry looks alien to people, but fits for authority.
Game never draws attention to it tho. I however felt like authority was one of the better stats in general. It gives a lot of suggestions which look really stupid at first but work out well when you pursue them. It is also rolled quite often in general.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

As someone very early into the game, I would like to receive an answer to a minor question - is there any in-game reason why Authority, amongst all the Personalities, is the only one whose avatar is not warped/grotesque/abstract in any way?

IDK looks plenty warped/abstract to me, especially with the near perfect symmetry. Complete symmetry looks alien to people, but fits for authority.
Game never draws attention to it tho. I however felt like authority was one of the better stats in general. It gives a lot of suggestions which look really stupid at first but work out well when you pursue them. It is also rolled quite often in general.

Where did you get this? Source please.

 

[Thac0]

BTW I would be interested in how others rank the skills. Due to the strange nature of Discos skill suggestions I assume it will be a very different picture.

Intellect Skills:

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Encyclopedia - because Wompty Domb research center is incredibly busted and gives you 5 or so free level ups with how often Ency is rolled

Drama - The stronger persuasion skill. Often gives you shit suggestions to lie for no reason, but is rolled often and often to good success

Rhetoric - Close to drama, stronger passive suggestions, worse active results

Conceptualisation - One very high check is needed for a massive and very good lore dump. Also more often checked than one would assume. Also Actual Art degree is almost as good as Wompty Domb.

Logic - Strong active rolls aswell, but you do not need a high roll, as logic tends to get relatively low DCs and a lot of passive mods from prior skills.

Visual Calculus - Rolled rarely and often to mediocre results. You just get some xp.

I had this as my main stat, generally happy with the decisions. Strong performances all around. Only one skill that felt underused

Psyche skills:

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Empathy - Incredible passive skill, never led me wrong. Often a free get out of jail card in discussions

Volition - Governs your morale, also checked quite frequently

Inland Empire - Incredibly entertaining stat, can often do weird shit when checked.

Authority - About as good as the persuasion stats from Intellect, can often "Win" dialogues outright

Esprit de Corps - Cool trivia but rarely checked

Suggestion - Most misleading stat for passive checks, bad active checks. Little bitch has led me down and developed depression, I love that loser.

My second main stat. Potent top end, two very bad skills however. Mixed bag.

Motorics:

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Interfacing

Composure

Savior Faire

Perception

Hand Eye Coordination

Reaction Speed

One of my low stats, so no long explanations here. I wonder how it looks for people with high motorics?

Physique was an absolute dumb stat so some shots in the dark

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Physical instrument

Shivers

Endurance

Half Light

Pain Threshhold

Electro Chemistry

 

[Thac0]

Where did you get this? Source please.

some reddit thread linked a high res version, linking from the Disco wiki breaks the link for some reason.

https://discoelysium.gamepedia.com/Authority
https://www.reddit.com/r/DiscoElysi...ut_out_to_the_representation_of_authority_it/

 

[Prime Junta]

I however felt like authority was one of the better stats in general. It gives a lot of suggestions which look really stupid at first but work out well when you pursue them. It is also rolled quite often in general.

It also goes gloriously off the rails if you max it.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Complete symmetry looks alien to people, but fits for authority.

 

[Rieser]

Where did you get this? Source please.

You can find the skills as well as portraits upscaled in this imgur album.

 

[KVVRR]

I however felt like authority was one of the better stats in general. It gives a lot of suggestions which look really stupid at first but work out well when you pursue them. It is also rolled quite often in general.

It also goes gloriously off the rails if you max it.

What are you talking about? He's the most honorable skill of them all.

 

[NJClaw]

I however felt like authority was one of the better stats in general. It gives a lot of suggestions which look really stupid at first but work out well when you pursue them. It is also rolled quite often in general.

It also goes gloriously off the rails if you max it.

What are you talking about? He's the most honorable skill of them all.

Suggestion is the single best skill in the game:

"This was not about failure or success. This was always going to be horror. I should not have suggested it, and you should not have listened to me".

 

[Dr.Faust]

Physique was an absolute dumb stat so some shots in the dark

You missed out on the love of your life.

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Edit: whoops, shitty linking.

 

[Twiglard]

Physique was an absolute dumb stat so some shots in the dark

Except for Shivers.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

 

[Gamezor]

Still not an RPG.
You guys should go play a real RPG. Like Pathfinder Kingmaker.

I actually tried recently, but ufortunatelly it suffers greatly from WALLS of painfully generic and boring text. It's like the setting and the characters of the game were randomly generated in some kind of fantasy editor.

I'm sorry, but if you want to put a fucking book in your game make sure its interesting and engaging and your game's format supports it(like Disco Elysium for exame), or better yet, if your game is a hardcore rpg(like Pathfinder) then have a decency to make your dialogue and descriptions brief and to the point ala Baldur's Gate 2, Fallout, Arcanum.

Poe suffered from that, Numenera suffered and now Pathfinder unfortunately.

Gah this is why I couldnt get into Poe. This is disappointing to hear.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

How the FUCK are you supposed to discover the existence of SPINAL CORD without looking it up? It requires so many successful checks of completely different Skills it seems almost like a hidden "a-ha! you looked that up in a walkthrough!" easter egg from the developers.

Also, Shivers seems to be the only specifically outsider Personality within your head.

As to Physique - a lot of people are especially hard on Endurance, but one needs to remember - his main goal, his main purpose, is keeping Harry alive. And Endurance knows Harry absolutely sucks at keeping himself alive. Which would also explain Endurance's misogyny - it is perfectly aware that the source of Harry's self-destructive tendencies is a woman, and thus wants to keep the Detective away from them. Generally Physique is the only Attribute which contains Skills so in conflict with one another.

 

[KVVRR]

How the FUCK are you supposed to discover the existence of SPINAL CORD without looking it up? It requires so many successful checks of completely different Skills it seems almost like a hidden "a-ha! you looked that up in a walkthrough!" easter egg from the developers.

Also, Shivers seems to be the only specifically outsider Personality within your head.

As to Physique - a lot of people are especially hard on Endurance, but one needs to remember - his main goal, his main purpose, is keeping Harry alive. And Endurance knows Harry absolutely sucks at keeping himself alive. Which would also explain Endurance's misogyny - it is perfectly aware that the source of Harry's self-destructive tendencies is a woman, and thus wants to keep the Detective away from them. Generally Physique is the only Attribute which contains Skills so in conflict with one another.

Don't you just need high shivers + whatever you need in order to successfully become dance, destroyer of worlds? Maybe it's because I left it for almost last but I didn't have any problems getting it
plus the real hero of the Physique skillset is my main man Coach PI. He's the only one trying to keep Harry in shape and the only part of his past that he should keep.

 

[Harthwain]

How the FUCK are you supposed to discover the existence of SPINAL CORD without looking it up? It requires so many successful checks of completely different Skills it seems almost like a hidden "a-ha! you looked that up in a walkthrough!" easter egg from the developers.

I think it's one of the things you either hunt for specifically or happen to stumble upon by accident. I did it on my first playthrough without looking it up and without reloading.

Also, Shivers seems to be the only specifically outsider Personality within your head.

Shivers is your lovecraftian Sixth Sense. Your ability to notice the unusual stuff. Like, the movements out of the corner of your eyes or a weird behaviour of people you talk to or look at. That kind of thing. This and your "feel of the city". I find Espirit de Corps to be similar to Shivers in some aspects, because outside of interacting with your fellow officers you also get "glipses" of what they are doing at the moment, without you being there. Frankly, I found that part of the skill (Espirit de Corps) to be a bit weak, because it felt too much as if they were trying to pad out the skill to make it seem like it's doing something, because of how little can you use it otherwise.

As to Physique - a lot of people are especially hard on Endurance, but one needs to remember - his main goal, his main purpose, is keeping Harry alive. And Endurance knows Harry absolutely sucks at keeping himself alive. Which would also explain Endurance's misogyny - it is perfectly aware that the source of Harry's self-destructive tendencies is a woman, and thus wants to keep the Detective away from them.

My take is that in Endurance's eyes Men of Wo are weak, therefore our drunk shouldn't associate himself with them or he could get infected with their weakness.

Generally Physique is the only Attribute which contains Skills so in conflict with one another.

How are they in conflict?

 

[Joseph Stalin]

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/disco-elysium-tv-series-1234690455/

What the fuck?

 

[Joseph Stalin]

How the FUCK are you supposed to discover the existence of SPINAL CORD without looking it up? It requires so many successful checks of completely different Skills it seems almost like a hidden "a-ha! you looked that up in a walkthrough!" easter egg from the developers.

I think it's one of the things you either hunt for specifically or happen to stumble upon by accident. I did it on my first playthrough without looking it up and without reloading.

Also, Shivers seems to be the only specifically outsider Personality within your head.

Shivers is your lovecraftian Sixth Sense. Your ability to notice the unusual stuff. Like, the movements out of the corner of your eyes or a weird behaviour of people you talk to or look at. That kind of thing. This and your "feel of the city". I find Espirit de Corps to be similar to Shivers in some aspects, because outside of interacting with your fellow officers you also get "glipses" of what they are doing at the moment, without you being there. Frankly, I found that part of the skill (Espirit de Corps) to be a bit weak, because it felt too much as if they were trying to pad out the skill to make it seem like it's doing something, because of how little can you use it otherwise.

As to Physique - a lot of people are especially hard on Endurance, but one needs to remember - his main goal, his main purpose, is keeping Harry alive. And Endurance knows Harry absolutely sucks at keeping himself alive. Which would also explain Endurance's misogyny - it is perfectly aware that the source of Harry's self-destructive tendencies is a woman, and thus wants to keep the Detective away from them.

My take is that in Endurance's eyes Men of Wo are weak, therefore our drunk shouldn't associate himself with them or he could get infected with their weakness.

Generally Physique is the only Attribute which contains Skills so in conflict with one another.

How are they in conflict?

Shivers specifically states that it comes from the outside.

As to "being in conflict" - I mean that the various Personalities within Physique have the most conflict between one another, and the most differentiating goals, amongst all three Attributes.

 

[KVVRR]

If it weren't for the novel I'd say it's just Harry recalling things that he previously knew or straight up imagining them instead of something paranormal happening. Just because the genius says it's out of the bottle it doesn't mean it's true.

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but we know that Revachol will get blown out in a few years

And of course Physique's skills are in constant conflict, they're literally a bunch of meatheads and junkies. They repressent the most aggressive and manliest of Harry.