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Kem0sabe

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Makabb They supposedly have quite a bit of unique dialogue and I recall reading that they can interrupt dialogue to take actions towards people you're speaking with and such

Yep, this happens at least twice in the first hour after landing at the island, once with the undead companion and another with the mercenary. The tutorial warns of the consequences of letting them intervene or not, but both times nothing serious happened as i let them have a private conversation with the npc i was talking to.
 

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Cnaiur

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One thing that's not clear to me, in the original game you could make two characters with the lone wolf trait. In OS2 you can create one character (and give it lone wolf), but your second one will always be a companion who already has his/hers traits picked out...

This would be a waste, as I can't have lone wolf for my companion and I can't recruit a third or fourth companion as I would lose my lone wolf benefits. Any workarounds?
 

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I find the compositions to be less annoying to be honest, no disrespect to Kirill's memory, the combat tunes and general musical ambience is better.


always got on my nerves in the first game.

Music which is good, or at least somehow relatively unique, tends to grab the listener's attention and you notice it more, that's why it annoyed you. Games and movies tend to have very poor music in the context of composition because of that, it diverts attention from the action to the music, but you can churn out a lot more generic music. Haven't you wondered why and how many games have like 3 hour OSTs or even more? It's because it's all the same background ambient noise you can mass produce in a day, the only time spent is manually placing the notes around. Which one is better in the context of video games, good composition or background ambience which doesn't distract, I can't really say, but maybe it depends on the game. The Heroes' soundtracks have always stood their ground as music as well, and have been praised as such, but it's a slow-paced turn-based strategy where you can just stop and listen to it a bit. A friend of mine commented on how, when we played Heroes 4, I just stood on a dirt patch listening to the music instead of actually playing, lol.
 
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Seems like a death knight would work pretty well. In general, due to the cooldows of everything being quite long, it seems like you should try to make good use of the passive bonuses of each ability tree (like life leech for necromancy).

That was exactly my point. Maybe even throw in Retribution so that enemy deals damage to you = you deal damage to enemy = you heal or something similar.

Two-hander would probably be best but it has been a while since I made a shield character, I'm tempted to go down that route.
 

Pope Amole II

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Their testers are so bad, tbh. What they were even doing?

It takes 5 minutes to break the game combat-wise:


And not much more to earn ridiculous amounts of cash (the game is supposed to be stingy but nah):


Honestly, I need to secure a game design position on the next DOS game. Or whatever. They just can't solve this stuff on their own.
 

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I find the compositions to be less annoying to be honest, no disrespect to Kirill's memory, the combat tunes and general musical ambience is better.


always got on my nerves in the first game.

Music which is good, or at least somehow relatively unique, tends to grab the listener's attention and you notice it more, that's why it annoyed you. Games and movies tend to have very poor music in the context of composition because of that, it diverts attention from the action to the music, but you can churn out a lot more generic music. Haven't you wondered why and how many games have like 3 hour OSTs or even more? It's because it's all the same background ambient noise you can mass produce in a day, the only time spent is manually placing the notes around. Which one is better in the context of video games, good composition or background ambience which doesn't distract, I can't really say, but maybe it depends on the game. The Heroes' soundtracks have always stood their ground as music as well, and have been praised as such, but it's a slow-paced turn-based strategy where you can just stop and listen to it a bit. A friend of mine commented on how, when we played Heroes 4, I just stood on a dirt patch listening to the music instead of actually playing, lol.

 

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Codex Year of the Donut Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Oh, this talk about music reminds me...need to extract the portraits out of the game's files for the Codex portrait gallery.

Did this and extracted the game's entire soundtrack too. 490 audio files, most of them short situational riffs. Would take some work to filter the real music out of it.
 

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Project: Eternity Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath
Their testers are so bad, tbh. What they were even doing?

It takes 5 minutes to break the game combat-wise:


And not much more to earn ridiculous amounts of cash (the game is supposed to be stingy but nah):


Honestly, I need to secure a game design position on the next DOS game. Or whatever. They just can't solve this stuff on their own.

Since you are so good at breaking the game, you could have just been a tester through early Access and telling them about these issues.
 

VentilatorOfDoom

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Music which is good, or at least somehow relatively unique, tends to grab the listener's attention and you notice it more, that's why it annoyed you. G.

I don't buy that, good tracks add to the game and atmosphere, like in the earlier Divinity games or Witcher. They don't distract and most certainly don't annoy. DivOS just had fewer tracks than usual and thus was more repetitive.
 

Belegarsson

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Is it possible to build support-ish dual wielding battlemage, and if it is, can I have a general idea on which attributes to spend points on and which talent to get? Ty :salute:
 

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Codex Year of the Donut Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
FYI, here's a "Music.txt" file I found in the game's assets:

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Might be useful for something.
 

Lacrymas

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I'm saying that that's the justification for having background ambience, not that it's "good" or "bad". By "distracting" I mean it in a good way. Whether any particular track annoys you, however, is up to you, not the music, I'm just commenting on why he personally might've gotten annoyed. The majority of video game OSTs are repetitive and same-y, but you don't notice them. For example - PoEs, there is only one track which I noticed, it's when you roam in Stalwart there is this pretty cool brass section that builds up to a cluster, I noticed it because you don't see such chords, or blocks of sound as clusters tend to be, in soundtracks.

EDIT: Here's some trivia now that I've read Infinitron's post - a tambura is a Bulgarian folklore stringed instrument. It has very thin strings. I have a colleague who is a tamburist. Bobby being Bulgarian, I can see why he'd use it.
 
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Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Grab the Codex by the pussy RPG Wokedex Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I helped put crap in Monomyth
I really liked the battle music in Original Sin, though they could get repetitive. I thought the music outside of combat was a mixed bag, though I did really enjoy some of the pieces.

I've not really played enough of OS2 to form an opinion on the music yet.
 

Pope Amole II

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Since you are so good at breaking the game, you could have just been a tester through early Access and telling them about these issues.

Well, release version has a wildly different balance from EA so any comments would've been pointless. Besides, I have my own life, you know. Doing a tester's job for free doesn't sound like a smart thing to do, especially when you have zero actual influence on whether your feedback gets trashcanned or not (oh, hai, sensuki & celerity).
 

Cnaiur

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Stealth -> Pickpocket -> Steal skill books -> Consume skill books -> Let owner search in vain for non-existing stolen goods.
 

Arkeus

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Their testers are so bad, tbh. What they were even doing?

It takes 5 minutes to break the game combat-wise:


And not much more to earn ridiculous amounts of cash (the game is supposed to be stingy but nah):


Honestly, I need to secure a game design position on the next DOS game. Or whatever. They just can't solve this stuff on their own.

As long as you can't use the same trick every fights, having chamelon actually being useful for breaking some fight is more than fair I think.

Likewise, if you want to spend a shit load of time thieving things, well, I don't mind the game rewarding you for it.
 

KateMicucci

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If you don't like breaking the game, then don't do it. Why is this hard for some people?

It's pretty clear that what the guy was doing in the video is not how the game was meant to be played
 

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Is it possible to build support-ish dual wielding battlemage, and if it is, can I have a general idea on which attributes to spend points on and which talent to get? Ty :salute:

nobody knows yet mate it has just come out
I played with Beast for a bit as a default battlemage. It's ok.

You want to stack dodging. 5% from dwarf, 10% from the parry skill.

Aerothurge seems like a good school for this because it has a self-cast AOE blind aura and an ability that gives 100% dodge for one turn. It also has two teleport abilities to control positioning. Warfare is also a very good school with 2 AOE knockdowns.

I'm not really liking the dual wield though. Weapon length actually means a lot now that gap closer abilities are harder to get. With dual wield you need to be right on someone's ass to hit them. Whirlwind also functions better with a long weapon.

Also there's a question of where to put your stats. You can use a staff and just build int, but then you aren't DWing, and you can only wear robes. There is nothing wrong with having both physical and magical save abilities on the same character, but having strength and int scaling abilities on the same character is something else. At first it won't matter much whether you invest in int, strength, or something else, but at level 20, who knows? I'm leaning towards saying that you should put your points mostly into strength and rely on the magic for utility and CC rather than damage. Later on you'll have elemental enchants on your swords that will help bring down the magic armor anyway, and I think that extra damage still scales with strength. You can get this effect from the start by applying poison bottles to your weapons.
 

Grunker

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Is it possible to build support-ish dual wielding battlemage, and if it is, can I have a general idea on which attributes to spend points on and which talent to get? Ty :salute:

nobody knows yet mate it has just come out
I played with Beast for a bit as a default battlemage. It's ok.

You want to stack dodging. 5% from dwarf, 10% from the parry skill.

Aerothurge seems like a good school for this because it has a self-cast AOE blind aura and an ability that gives 100% dodge for one turn. It also has two teleport abilities to control positioning. Warfare is also a very good school with 2 AOE knockdowns.

I'm not really liking the dual wield though. Weapon length actually means a lot now that gap closer abilities are harder to get. With dual wield you need to be right on someone's ass to hit them. Whirlwind also functions better with a long weapon.

Also there's a question of where to put your stats. You can use a staff and just build int, but then you aren't DWing, and you can only wear robes. There is nothing wrong with having both physical and magical save abilities on the same character, but having strength and int scaling abilities on the same character is something else. At first it won't matter much whether you invest in int, strength, or something else, but at level 20, who knows? I'm leaning towards saying that you should put your points mostly into strength and rely on the magic for utility and CC rather than damage. Later on you'll have elemental enchants on your swords that will help bring down the magic armor anyway, and I think that extra damage still scales with strength. You can get this effect from the start by applying poison bottles to your weapons.

On the flip side one of the biggest things gained from Dual Wielding in DivOS was the benefit of a second stat-stick and the fact that skills use both weapons for damage IIRC?
 

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