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The howitzer shells fell steadily upon the main blast door. The Chief Master Sergeant requisitioned a heap of dirt from the Alpha Site and started choking the entrance corridor with sandbags. Several hours in, the artillery barrage stopped.

Hahahahah told you niggas there was a chance they could't even break down the blast doors. Those things were built to take nukes. Even if they did manage to break the blast door, there are more doors.

Unless they find the secret entrance, they would never have a chance.

I do wonder what happened. Could be grim tidings, could be a mini civil war out there between the people who believed us and the who didn't. Or they just left.

Told you we should have taken out the howitzer. Being a general takes balls. You men need balls.

I asked people to convince me to do the alpha stirke, they didn't present good enough arguments.

Dude, the US is chockfull of military bases, military depots and military boneyards.

Once things get less tense, we could get a proper military convoy down to Sierra Army Depot (yes, that Sierra Army Depot) and get enough weapons to become a military superpower overnight.

Honestly, I think our biggest problem is people. SG teams are too small and we lack enough manpower for what we need to do, which is:

1. Salvage whatever we can from the devastated US.
2. Explore the Cosmos.
3. Fight the Goa'uld.

We need an army. A real army.
We should be sending people topside after a few months, see if we can find anything left of the former US Military.
 
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As for the choice, hmm...


1) Recall all remaining SG teams from Crom.

And leave that loose ending to be? Nope. Next time we get back there, the barbarians will be packing guns. We need Crom friendly and compliant.

I'm honestly thinking what to do.

Way I see it:

a) The most "secure" approach. The problem is that these are our best men. Another crisis may happen. The raiders may have stopped the bombardment because they found a better way to take out our blast door.
b) Our second-best men. But this leaves SGC vulnerable.
c) Has the potential of scaring the primitives off. My fear is that, well, UAVs can't control land. we may kill a lot of them, and then they disperse and try again.
d) I'm really tempted by this, because I think we need an army and this 1k-man militia could be the starting cadre of it. That said, these guys are untrained and stir shit up, not to mention issues like friendly fire and such.

I'm split between 2c, 2ac and 2cd.
 

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Hahahahah told you niggas there was a chance they could't even break down the blast doors. Those things were built to take nukes. Even if they did manage to break the blast door, there are more doors.
The point is that we can't open the door now. If we had taken out the howizer, we would have at least been negotiating from strength and not needed to seal the door.

Now we have 70k people outside we are literally going to murder with gas because if we don't, they are going to be plotting to blast us the moment we stick our heads out, and are probably trying to find another way in as we speak.

I asked people to convince me to do the alpha stirke, they didn't present good enough arguments.
Bullshit. You simply weren't convinced and didn't have enough time anyway because 30min after I posted my argument, the update came.

Once things get less tense, we could get a proper military convoy down to Sierra Army Depot
We could, if the area weren't swarming with more and more hostiles as word spreads of the "promised land" mountain base due to our radio message.
Sierra Army Depot
You want to travel two states away?

I know you live in Brazil, but that's a long way to travel when half the gas stations in the nation have been nuked and the other half don't work anymore.

We should be sending people topside after a few months, see if we can find anything left of the former US Military.
Our best bet is/was weaponizing other worlds and techs.

Distance and exposing our existence are big issues to exploring the surface.

What if some other country is still around and learns we have a gate? What if they invade what's left of the US for it? Just stop.

We need to find that one world with the space nazis. They seemed pretty bro. Also, we need to take over Crom.
 
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Shock and awe'd those barbarian cunts! Also gate towing incline.

A2) Attempt to trade with Burrock's World.

Soup world sounds like ITZ, years of digesting science fiction pop culture taught me that spores are bad shit. Star Trek Discovery is a very good example of the connection between spores and bad shit, in that case the show itself and its writing is the bad shit.

B3) Send up a few observers.

With luck we might be able to sally outside of this or send disguised personnel out for some covert op to git dat snazzy howitzer. Or the manboons rape us as soon as the scout pops out and they storm the base from there, risk worth taking I say!
 
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A2) seems safest and may gain us a new ally. I don't want to antagonize the ghould for no reason and A1 sounds like a quick way to some sort of weird outbreak. Let's wait on a better analysis.
B2) My first instinct is that the only reason we should open that hatch is to kill everyone outside of it. With that many people, they are either waiting for one of us to stick his head out or they will see us going in or out of it. While it’s possible we might be able to covertly blend in and monitor them, I think that in the short or long term, it’s a bad idea. They have nothing we want and they are looking for a weakness.

That said, if they are plotting something, I guess it would be better to know about it than not to. But it’s extremely risky and I think that if they could get in they would have by now. I don’t want to lose one of our very limited teams.

edit: besides, I think that Usury just forgot about it until I mentioned it and is giving us a free oportunity to fuck ourselves over. :M
 
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No, I remembered the secret exit. Had you not mentioned it, you would in this very update have encountered thunderdome beserkers swarming down the ladder, but it is fitting to reward the general aware of his own command.
Oh ho. Well, in that case, I had better up my game. I was assuming a lot more leeway.

Anyway, it only confirms how much we need to close the damn thing.

Since we're on the subject, what about the roof of the gateroom? Is it secured?

And what about all the other points of potential ingress?

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The exhaust tunnels etc (I'm guessing they were sealed after it was no longer a missile site though). And I am assuming we sealed the south entrance as well as the north? Or does the SGC only have one main gate due to it being the only one shown on the show?




Thus, the mad-max crew has been reset from invading right now to [REDACTED].
Trying to shove a howitzer shell down the shaft? :M
They really are going to do that, aren't they?
Sure, you could irrevocably close the escape hatch but then your only way of checking outside the base would be to open the front door and, as TBS points out, there are quite a few valuable resources lying around on earth...
And as you pointed out, they could have and would have invaded and still can. Then we'd have to seal it anyway, but we'd lose a lot of troops in the process.

The worst part of the Mad Max crew is that unless we kill them, they may never leave. I could see a religion developing so that even if we left them there for 1000 years, they would be worshiping the mountain, trying to drill the gate or just sticking their dicks in the rock holes like retarded savages.

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Mad Max crew didn't even have water for more than a day. Unless they found a untained water source, they have either moved on, are killing each other, or are currently slurping some delicious radiation-tainted water.
And those berserkers that would have stormed down the hatch had I not mentioned it would have come from where?
 

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Only one day has gone on, they probably still have supplies. But unless they get more, they should go elsewhere soon.
Elsewhere being down the hatch and into the base.

But hey, go talk to them. Get one of those cool Mad Max hats or face masks. What's the worst that could happen?
 

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A3 - 'cause that sounds fun :bounce:

B1
- They're definitely still around and just need a little more time before leaving. No need to panic and seal the door or risk sending someone out.
 

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A2>A3*) What are we going to kidnap a whole family just for a "happy" ending? Send the little shit to Land of Light. It's a better life than he would have known on Earth. Call it a good deed and leave this shit alone.

B2>B1) B2 only if A3 doesn't win and B1 ONLY if A3 does win. Frankly, infecting anyone with the virus is a bad idea. It could quickly spread nationwide or even worldwide, mutate and then come back to bite us in the ass. That said...

*A3 is my mega dick option. Set the kid free, but stick him with the needle right before you do. Whack him over the head and leave him near their camp, so that he can't locate the base entrance. How's that for a happy ending? Only do it if the kidnappers are sure he can't lead the mad maxers here. :M

The interpreters strove to learn the language of Burrock's world. Dr. Jackson noted that only did the Burrockim use bipedal aliens for heavy labor, they also worked their fields with chained human laborers. That the aliens wore clothes indicated they possessed some intelligence. That the human forced workers looked no different than the rest of the Burrockim suggested they were criminals or debtors. Jackson traded matches and photographs for samples of their food.
THEY'RE FREAKING UNAS!!!

GET JACKSON OUT OF THERE. The bleeding heart will instigate a rebellion to free the Unas and fuck over a potential ally for a bunch of dumb reptilian niggers who are literally useless the entire series!
 
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A2) Don't.

Anyone remember if we have some kind of mind wiping device in SG, I forgot. We could really use something to go men in black on him and dump him outside with no knowledge of where he was and how he got there. The kid is a liability, either he will lure the manboons to our sekrit entrance and piss them off more causing an assault on the base or our morale drops if he keeps bitching near our airmen. It is a no win situation, but the secret entrance must stay secret or we face worse than mutinous airmen.

B2) Send agents to infiltrate and spread rumors of a Federal Relief Agency providing emergency relief in Utah.


This also ties to the kid choice, I think the only way to get rid off him without putting the base in danger from morale or manboons is to have most of the horde leave somehow. Only a small group of the truly dedicated would stay... like a family looking for a missing kid (just look at all the real life cases of missing white women parents refusing to accept their daughters could be dead even years later).

This would be still a risk, but if we get most of the manboons out we could just overwhelm them and take back the surface. Also if they go on a trip to Utah or elsewhere they will take the howitzer and heavy guns with them making it easier. With Crom secure we could send back some forces that could sally out and pacify the manboons once most of them leave. Then we can split the captives up, send them to multiple colonies (except Crom, unless as punishment) so that the news of the secret entrance does not spill out to another manboon horde. Family stays together and gets hope on a new world, secret entrance remains secret, we do no morally questionable actions and our people do not question our leadership.
 
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A1) Grant Carter's request.

I thought about this and the best option is to use this as precedent to rewrite the rules to allow this, but make it clear in the new rules that personnel will be reassigned (even to assignments beneath their station depending on the will of the chain of command) to prevent conflict of interest and other nepotistic practices. We would acknowledge that the post-ITZ situation requires the military to adapt which could be used to impose an ad hoc temporary legal structure that could evolve into a proper government if there is none left in Kwa anymore.

Of course I have no fucking clue what the legal way to do this in the air force would be which could come back to bite us in the ass if it is against current military law. Wikipedia and anywhere else online is not clear if the military can set rules by itself in times of crisis or if this is up to congress and the generals need to suck up to them politards to change the rules.

B2) Don't.

They will be looking for the kid still, we gotta wait a while until everyone but the family and some hard-liners stay. Just have someone guarding that entrance on our side.

C2) Keep them imprisoned for now (eating your supplies.)

At face value this choice is shit, it means we have to babysit them and feed them. There is one advantage it has, do we know *who* these guys are? If we are lucky they are ransom material, if not then they should at least be a decent source of intel on our geopolitical situation. We need to know who hates who on Crom and we could use it take out the natives conquistador style, assuming there is anything useful on this fucking rock to bother with colonialism.

BTW I forgot if we got all the personnel back already or if there is any still missing. If we have all and this world offers nothing else we should ditch it.
 
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Again, she felt the involuntary twitch to check Instagram but, of course, Instagram was gone. Facebook, Twitter, Google search, myriads of pornography, EasyStudy, Reddit, Quizzler, Buzzfeed--all erased. All the based network had was an old copy of wikipedia.
Reeeee! It was made in 1997 onwards and prior. There was no facebook etc. :M

But glad to know we have a hot young thot to reproduce with. There are no age of consent laws in our military dictatorship. :M

Wellesy closed his eyes. "O'Neill?"

"Yes, sir."
Incline. Glad to see the old dog finally got to bone his nerd.

A3>A1, we can always promote him later. We can let them marry though. It gives them a reason to live, but there need to be consequences - though these are extenuating circumstances and therefore a pardon would be justified. Usury, is marriage still an option in A3?
B1
C5>C4>C3
- I really don't want to kill prisoners unless we have no other option, but setting them free outright would just give our enemy intel. Offering them as tribute might be better, but currying favor with the slavers is preferred.


edit: and I'm assuming the "yes!" rating was an answer to my question about marriage, since I edited in the C explanation, so A3 is best. Kills two birds with one stone, gives O'Neil a reason to live and does something the series couldn't until the end.
 
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