Decline Dreamfall Chapters - Console Immersion Action Decline Kickstarter [Spoilers]

[Bubbles]

Are the two older games worth playing? I love adventure games and I tried the first one long ago, but I remember I couldn't shake the feeling that it had this "female cheeky character written by a dude who *kinda* struggles to write a female cheeky character". I can't remember any specifics at all, just reember a feeling of it being kinda... forced somehow. I'm thinking maybe I should've given the game more of a chance but there was something about the writing that put me off

The character design and writing are generally pretty unnatural, yes. The second game is even worse than the first in that regard, so there's no point in skipping ahead either.

 

[buzz]

10/10 would bury dick deep inside

 

[Crooked Bee]

Okay, completed it.

+ Atmosphere, especially in some scenes.
+ Competent writing, if often clichéd/pretentious.
+ Performance was mostly good for me, and the game actually looks fine for its budget.
- Linearity.
- The writing was so cheesy at the beginning that I thought it wouldn't get better. It did, but still remained pretty cheesy. Not to mention that "Interlude" at the end of the episode, ugh.
- Controls are worse than in Telltale's games (is that even possible?).
- Do I even need to mention the "puzzles"? (I did LOL at the "pillow + broom + window" one though, it was so hilariously adventure gamey in the worst sense.)
- Choices mostly don't seem to matter (see: Bioware/Telltale, again), but I guess it's technically too early to judge that fairly.
+/- The "read mind/turn on the light" gimmick was very limited but at least it was somewhat novel/experimental. However, it completely disappeared after the prologue. It's disappointing they didn't do anything more/better with it.
+/- You can explore the town, which is good and is a step up from Telltale's small locations. However, this is also made completely pointless because the game is linear and there's barely anything to do there outside of the pre-determined plot points/events. As a result, I soon got tired of running back and forth around the same essentially empty areas and the "exploration" became more of a chore.
+/- There is some attention to detail (journal entries, items to examine, etc.), but my impression was that it got worse as the episode progressed. They must've been running out of development time.

So I dunno, I guess?

 

[Deleted member 7219]

It absolutely should not have been made in the Unity engine. It just can't handle the all the textures and pretty graphics that Red Thread are throwing at it.

 

[tuluse]

Are the two older games worth playing? I love adventure games and I tried the first one long ago, but I remember I couldn't shake the feeling that it had this "female cheeky character written by a dude who *kinda* struggles to write a female cheeky character". I can't remember any specifics at all, just reember a feeling of it being kinda... forced somehow. I'm thinking maybe I should've given the game more of a chance but there was something about the writing that put me off

The Longest Journey is one of the better adventure games I've ever played.

 

[abnaxus]

The game has p. amusing easter eggs for those willing to look.

 

[Keshik]

Wish I could skip more dialogue, Zoe's inane banter with the robot irritated me a lot more than it should have. Seems like I blew through it, am in the interlude now. Yeah, it's a bit silly devoid of any context with later stuff.

 

[Whisky]

Are the two older games worth playing? I love adventure games and I tried the first one long ago, but I remember I couldn't shake the feeling that it had this "female cheeky character written by a dude who *kinda* struggles to write a female cheeky character". I can't remember any specifics at all, just reember a feeling of it being kinda... forced somehow. I'm thinking maybe I should've given the game more of a chance but there was something about the writing that put me off

The Longest Journey is really good, give it a try.

You'll want to play Dreamfall after even though it is shitty.

 

[Cassidy]

Are the two older games worth playing? I love adventure games and I tried the first one long ago, but I remember I couldn't shake the feeling that it had this "female cheeky character written by a dude who *kinda* struggles to write a female cheeky character". I can't remember any specifics at all, just reember a feeling of it being kinda... forced somehow. I'm thinking maybe I should've given the game more of a chance but there was something about the writing that put me off

Play The Longest Journey and pretend there was never any sequel to it.

You won't regret skipping the console interactive movie spin offs.

 

[mibbles]

I regret backing this for $20. It's just like Dreamfall, except now with added Telltaleisms.

This didn't stop me from playing through it twice. Had to make sure if it was as underwhelming as I first thought. It's not offensively bad, just... very, very lame. I found the constant talk of politics annoying and hamfisted.

 

[J_C]

I regret backing this for $20. It's just like Dreamfall, except now with added Telltaleisms.

What did you expect from a game called DREAMFALL CHAPTERS? The kickstarter pitch also hinted they type of this game.

 

[mibbles]

Did it? Goddammit! Guess I was too deep in the Kickstarter fever/not Codexian enough at the time to see shit for what it was.

 

[Copper]

Okay, completed it.
+/- You can explore the town, which is good and is a step up from Telltale's small locations. However, this is also made completely pointless because the game is linear and there's barely anything to do there outside of the pre-determined plot points/events. As a result, I soon got tired of running back and forth around the same essentially empty areas and the "exploration" became more of a chore.

It figures they never realised how much this sucked in Dreamfall either - "Look, a 3d Mercuria you can walk around! (Oh, but there's nothing to do there except run from plot point to plot point, and because everything had to be modelled rather than using painted scenes, everything is a bit more generic looking.)

I don't think the Lucas Arts principles of puzzle design seen in Monkey Island 2 needed to be ruthlessly applied, but some of them are just common sense in terms of worldbuilding as well. How many times do you have to visit each island in MI2 to work on the different map piece puzzles? Or Chapter 2 of Grim Fandango, which is a personal favourite in terms of actually being in one location you can explore most of, with a great match between puzzles, theme and plot. Even shit like running across the bridge with the blimp and the music is something I'd do every so often for fun if I was getting frustrated at more aimless attempts at pushing things forward.

 

[J_C]

Okay, completed it.
+/- You can explore the town, which is good and is a step up from Telltale's small locations. However, this is also made completely pointless because the game is linear and there's barely anything to do there outside of the pre-determined plot points/events. As a result, I soon got tired of running back and forth around the same essentially empty areas and the "exploration" became more of a chore.

It figures they never realised how much this sucked in Dreamfall either - "Look, a 3d Mercuria you can walk around! (Oh, but there's nothing to do there except run from plot point to plot point, and because everything had to be modelled rather than using painted scenes, everything is a bit more generic looking.)

This! I'm playing Dramfall (the original) right now, and I hate the running back and forth.

 

[Copper]

Okay, completed it.
+/- You can explore the town, which is good and is a step up from Telltale's small locations. However, this is also made completely pointless because the game is linear and there's barely anything to do there outside of the pre-determined plot points/events. As a result, I soon got tired of running back and forth around the same essentially empty areas and the "exploration" became more of a chore.

It figures they never realised how much this sucked in Dreamfall either - "Look, a 3d Mercuria you can walk around! (Oh, but there's nothing to do there except run from plot point to plot point, and because everything had to be modelled rather than using painted scenes, everything is a bit more generic looking.)

This! I'm playing Dramfall (the original) right now, and I hate the running back and forth.

Yeah, to be fair, it's probably the worst area in the game for that - although I found Casablanca to be a fiddly maze with the controls when I started, and was very disappointed with the Dark city not really being a real location, as opposed to a scene for dialogue and OMG TWIST! There were passable sections - Zoe's big infiltration scene, for one - although the lack of refinement of the core mechanics (at least for keyboard) meant they were a bit tedious. (As for April in the seweres with the orcs, that was a joke)

 

[Shadenuat]

Any ways to increase performance by tweaking something yet?

 

[abnaxus]

Any ways to increase performance by tweaking something yet?

No. Unity gonna unity.

 

[Shadenuat]

wow
that was... even worse than Broken Age. At least that one was long and had something to do.
WHERE DID ALL THE MONEY GO

 

[evdk]

wow
that was... even worse than Broken Age. At least that one was long and had something to do.
WHERE DID ALL THE MONEY GO

Sphincter says what?

 

[Levenmouth]

Oh wow, I just played through the first bit and I feel like I've just paid 20€ for some rather poorly written propaganda. This was just terrible. The main character actually called one of the candidates a "boring old white guy" or something to that effect. Immigrants in hijabs yay!, moderate boring old white guy booo!, journalist hipster boyfriend drinking "Cola Chai" yay!, evil police arresting someone booo! SERIOUSLY?! Good God, I deal with politics all day long as it is, where are my dreams and worlds of science and magic? Unless there is some clever twist coming, this is almost offensively two-dimensional.

Spoiler

Calling it now: I'm giving the developers too much credit.

 

[Copper]

In our version of 2220, Europe is finally paying the price for hundreds of years of imperialism, reactionary politics, wasteful spending and industrialisation. Europolis is the dark and rotten heart of this new Europe.

Always been beating that drum - why do you think Casablanca was hipster heaven while America was a shithole (and Russia was just Movie Russia, I guess).

 

[abnaxus]

Asia seems to be doing well too, European currency is even Yuan.

 

[Copper]

Probably - he had some weird scenario for Japan, wealthy but decadent, a parody of itself for public consumption. So China being the big boy in terms of influence makes some sense too.

 

[Shadenuat]

Europe overdid with tolerance in Dreamfall's setting, only white europeans except Zoe and her boyfriend in the game are either punks or drug addicts.

 

[Copper]

Isn't Zoe supposed to be Arab?