ELEX ELEX II - Jax is back

[Cunt Dickula!?]

the other option is the project director's wife/a developer self-insert.

Nasty is obviously Jennifer Pankratz.

A less shy version, looks like. Maybe what she is behind closed doors.

 

[HoboForEternity]

bjorn is a lucky, lucky man

 

[ADULF HITLOR FAN KLUB]

the other option is the project director's wife/a developer self-insert.

Nasty is obviously Jennifer Pankratz.

A less shy version, looks like. Maybe what she is behind closed doors.

Yep.

But Nasty really isn't a self-insert as Jennifer is way too sweet. A lot of fantasy went into creating her character.

I also have a hunch that Jax is Björn's self-insert.

 

[Ismaul]

The self-insert is a time-honored tradition at Piranha Bytes.

The Nameless hero of Gothic was modeled after Mike Hoge, after all.

 

[Darth Roxor]

I also have a hunch that Jax is Björn's self-insert.

the actual bjorn self-insert is alb dad

The protagonist from Risen 3 was changed from Risen 1,2 nameless hero to Pattys brother because the original german voice actor was sick.

wait, really? that's hilarious

 

[Cunt Dickula!?]

https://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1384998-Risen-3-eigentlich-für-unseren-alten-Helden-gedacht (german though)

There are some very strong indicators:

- All the people in Antigua seem to know the new Nameless Hero and he seems to be an old friend of the town. (The old hero helped the town out a lot.)
- The old hero already rescued the world 2 times. Why does he do nothing and just sit there at a campfire?
- In the beginning the new hero loses all his skills which is a common trope PB uses to take the power away from a former OP hero. Why do they do that if the new hero could just be weak?
- Bones says he "knows" the new hero although they never met before. He basically saves the life of a stranger and is from thereon very loyal to him.
- Mendoza from Risen 1 appears again and instantly hates the new hero although they never met.
- There seem to be screenshots depicting the old hero as playable protagonist on Mist Island (DLC) in R3. The DLC was probably already created when the main game was released and then cut out and sold separately as that were the dlc politics of Deep Silver.
- It was stated in R2 that Captain Steelbeard only has daughters.

- When the new hero has nightmares (or is in the shadow world) he dreams of people like Ursegor, Mendoza or Captain Slayne. He knows none of them.

http://www.martinschaefer.org/
Martin Schäfer (Voice Actor of R1/R2 hero) died in 2017 (Rest in Peace) and was probably in a bad health condition in 2013/14 already.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

Nah, looks like I just don't watch incest porn lul.

Goddamn degenerates.

Preach it, brother.

First they watch porn with plot, then they watch porn for the plot, then they come here and storyfag all over our pure, innocent Excel spreadsheets.

 

[Infinitron]

https://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1384998-Risen-3-eigentlich-für-unseren-alten-Helden-gedacht (german though)

There are some very strong indicators:

- All the people in Antigua seem to know the new Nameless Hero and he seems to be an old friend of the town. (The old hero helped the town out a lot.)
- The old hero already rescued the world 2 times. Why does he do nothing and just sit there at a campfire?
- In the beginning the new hero loses all his skills which is a common trope PB uses to take the power away from a former OP hero. Why do they do that if the new hero could just be weak?
- Bones says he "knows" the new hero although they never met before. He basically saves the life of a stranger and is from thereon very loyal to him.
- Mendoza from Risen 1 appears again and instantly hates the new hero although they never met.
- There seem to be screenshots depicting the old hero as playable protagonist on Mist Island (DLC) in R3. The DLC was probably already created when the main game was released and then cut out and sold separately as that were the dlc politics of Deep Silver.
- It was stated in R2 that Captain Steelbeard only has daughters.

- When the new hero has nightmares (or is in the shadow world) he dreams of people like Ursegor, Mendoza or Captain Slayne. He knows none of them.

http://www.martinschaefer.org/
Martin Schäfer (Voice Actor of R1/R2 hero) died in 2017 (Rest in Peace) and was probably in a bad health condition in 2013/14 already.

Absurd yet plausible theory floated in that German thread: They changed the protagonist because if you weren't specifically Patty's brother, players would have expected a romance and they didn't have the resources to create one.

 

[Lord_Potato]

https://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1384998-Risen-3-eigentlich-für-unseren-alten-Helden-gedacht (german though)

There are some very strong indicators:

- All the people in Antigua seem to know the new Nameless Hero and he seems to be an old friend of the town. (The old hero helped the town out a lot.)
- The old hero already rescued the world 2 times. Why does he do nothing and just sit there at a campfire?
- In the beginning the new hero loses all his skills which is a common trope PB uses to take the power away from a former OP hero. Why do they do that if the new hero could just be weak?
- Bones says he "knows" the new hero although they never met before. He basically saves the life of a stranger and is from thereon very loyal to him.
- Mendoza from Risen 1 appears again and instantly hates the new hero although they never met.
- There seem to be screenshots depicting the old hero as playable protagonist on Mist Island (DLC) in R3. The DLC was probably already created when the main game was released and then cut out and sold separately as that were the dlc politics of Deep Silver.
- It was stated in R2 that Captain Steelbeard only has daughters.

- When the new hero has nightmares (or is in the shadow world) he dreams of people like Ursegor, Mendoza or Captain Slayne. He knows none of them.

http://www.martinschaefer.org/
Martin Schäfer (Voice Actor of R1/R2 hero) died in 2017 (Rest in Peace) and was probably in a bad health condition in 2013/14 already.

Absurd yet plausible theory floated in that German thread: They changed the protagonist because if you weren't specifically Patty's brother, players would have expected a romance and they didn't have the resources to create one.

Another plausible theory: Germans are perverts and wanted the player to be a perv too, lusting for his half-sister. That's why they gave her the porn look, despite the fact she looked normal in previous games.

 

[ADULF HITLOR FAN KLUB]

Boobs and cleavage are offensive!

Right this way, sir.

https://www.resetera.com/

 

[Infinitron]

Tbh, that might be another hint that she was meant to be a romance option for a non-brother protagonist at some point during the game's development. Then they switched to the brother but kept the boobs.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

. Then they switched to the brother but kept the boobs

Wha

 

[Lord_Potato]

Boobs and cleavage are offensive!

Right this way, sir.

https://www.resetera.com/

Oh, I have no problems with boobs and cleavage. Actually, I enjoy them, when done in a tasteful manner.

Spoiler

It's just the Germans. They can't really do it tastefully.

 

[Cunt Dickula!?]

Spoiler

 

[Infinitron]

Spoiler

lol, she has Jenny Pankratz face too.

 

[Cunt Dickula!?]

 

[Roguey]

the actual bjorn self-insert is alb dad

Fortunate, given that the Jax/Nasty romance scene is such a hilariously accurate depiction of a male autistic virgin with a gf that it would be too weird if was a re-enactment of their own experience.

 

[Ismaul]

The self-insert is a time-honored tradition at Piranha Bytes.

The Nameless hero of Gothic was modeled after Mike Hoge, after all.

Ok since Harthwain asked for sources, I went and checked, and I was slightly mistaken.

This is what Mike Hoge had to say about his likeness to the Nameless Hero:

Gothicz.net: Of course we cannot forget on the Nameless hero, whose face is actually yours. Please, tell us something about the background of the selection hero's face. Why you?

Mike: I chose the Hero texture out of about 100 face textures that we had. I tried to pick a face which imho suited the nameless hero's character. The face was there. I only picked it. I didn't inted it to look like mine, I guess I did it subconciously.

So I guess people assumed it was an intentional self-insert on release, which is what I remembered. While the first self-insert wasn't intentional, it then became tradition.

 

[Ismaul]

the actual bjorn self-insert is alb dad

Fortunate, given that the Jax/Nasty romance scene is such a hilariously accurate depiction of a male autistic virgin with a gf that it would be too weird if was a re-enactment of their own experience.

Too weird? lol no

Have you seen how awkward and co-dependant the Pankratz are? I believe it. There is something true about them there.

 

[ELEXmakesMeHard]

 

[ELEXmakesMeHard]

Concept art for comfy base of operations (although I hope we'll be able to go with different faction symbols/colors)

 

[HoboForEternity]

Where can nasty play with my butthole

 

[Alienman]

It really does look comfy.

 

[Roguey]

Very different from the futuristic pod dweller aesthetics of the clerics and albs, the "we live in huts because technology bad" aesthetic of the berserkers and the "we live in trash" aesthetic of the outlaws.

 

[Cunt Dickula!?]

"we live together with phat ass Nasty" aesthetic of the Morkons