Game News Fallout 2 vs Diablo 2

[Diogo Ribeiro]

Uh huh...I might prefer a game of pinball over chess, but I wont claim pinball is a better game.

Depends on the pinball... Twilight Zone Pinball is a better game then chess

I think that Fallout 2 is definately better than chess... but just barely.

In chess you can't pimp your pieces for cash. You can't have your rooks use drugs. You can't have them use Turbo Plasma Rifles.

FO2 > chess.

 

[The Situationist]

No, that's okay. I thought you meant something more specific regarding the mechanics of the game when you said 'bastardizations'.

Possibly because the term 'bastardization' reminds people of the debates on Bioware's rules' bastardization? Success, my brethen!

Aye, that's right.

Damn Codexers.

 

[Seven]

I suppose that the term is a little ambiguous, but any one who's ever played FO2 and F) should know that in terms of mechanics and rules they're basically the same animal.

 

[The Situationist]

That's right. And that's why I wanted you to explain it. :wink:

 

[Country_Gravy]

How could anybody like the Fallout games? I mean they have a great story, an unique setting, great character customization, quests with multiple solutions, and cool NPCs.

Now tell me how that makes an interesting RPG?

I haven't played Diablo or Diablo II, but I don't see how they could be better role-playing games than the Fallout series.

As far as the fun factor of the games, that is really just a matter of opinion and not worth arguing.

 

[Elwro]

Why play Diablo if you can play ADOM? It's a much better roguelike imo.

 

[Greenskin13]

Can you get dual shotguns in ADOM? 'Fraid not. Choose SLASH'EM, folks.

 

[Elwro]

I've been planning to try this game for a few months now. Maybe this weekend...

 

[Sol Invictus]

Can you do multiplayer cooperative in SLASH`EM? AFRAID NOT< FOLKS!.11.

 

[Elwro]

Come on, who cares about multiplayer?

 

[Thirteener]

I can't take it anymore!

That's it. I haven't even finished reading the second page of responses yet and I'm already fed up with you people. You're all right and all wrong at the same time. Fallout 2 and Diablo 2 are both RPG's in their own right. Diablo is an action RPG and Fallout is a purist RPG. Fallout is reminiscent of text-based RPGs while DIablo is closer to a fighting game. To me, an RPG has to have character development, story, and lots of numbers. Both Fallout and Diablo have these. So why are you arguing about which is an RPG while the other isn't? They're both RPGs... just different kinds.

The other thing is... Who gives a rip what genre a game is? IF a game is fun to play, what more do you need to know? I don't understand the need to classify everything in our society. I can't think of anything that isn't part of some specialized group. What is the need to have genres of anything? Music and games are alike in this. We have rap, rock, pop, pop-rock, hip-hop, country, and countless other genres. But why are they needed? All of these "types" of music are good in their own ways. Songs are songs, you can like some more than others, some less. But when you classify them, your mind is automatically predisposed to dislike or like what is in a genre you like. It's the same with games. Why do we need to have types of games? If a game is fun, play it. If it isn't, don't, but you don't need to waste precious hours of your life arguing about what type of game it is.

 

[Voss]

Well, considering this argument ended two months ago, I'm not sure why you're bringing it up to bitch about it. But then again, bitching about the bitching on the Codex often seems to be someone's first post.

And hey, some people just don't like genres. Its convenient to take a set of cliches that defines a certain group, stick a label on it, and ignore anything that comes under that label. I don't like romance novels. They're tripe. So its convenient, when I'm browsing through fiction, not to have to dig through a bunch of shit I don't want and spend 30 minutes flipping through every fiction book I don't want to make sure it isn't a romance (in the modern sense. Classical romances are a whole different critter). So its nice to have them off in their own little category. Same goes with music, games and movies. Its useful and convenient. I may miss the occasional masterwork buried under 60 feet of utter rubish, but given how over-saturated and fluffy these markets are, and how little of deep signifcance exists in any of them, I *really* doubt I'm missing out on any deep and powerful message than will completely change my life and give me meaning and spiritual fulfillment.

Now, I assume the folks here are going to give you a not-so-gentle ass reaming in welcome, so I need to go get some popcorn...

 

[fnordcircle]

But then again, bitching about the bitching on the Codex often seems to be someone's first post.

Is bitching about the bitching bitching generally the 1009th post?

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

I think the funny part is that he starts out saying his fed up with what's been said, then follows up with a summary of what everyone else said.

But I still say you can't compare an Action CRPG to a Tradiation CRPG as to which one is better. You might argue which genre of CRPG is better, but you're not comparing the two games in and of themselves. It'd be like two people arguing which is the better space sim, Hardwar or Freespace. One guy can say Freespace is better because of the cool missions and the tactical fighter combat while the other says Hardwar is better because of the dynamic trade model and open endedness. Those are features of their selective sub-genre, not the games themselves.

Since I prefer space trading sims, naturally I'll take Hardwar over Freespace. Then again, the reason I hated Freelancer is because it tried to be both and wasn't good at being either.

 

[Sol Invictus]

And quite possibly their last.

Just kidding.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Re: I can't take it anymore!

That's it. I haven't even finished reading the second page of responses yet and I'm already fed up with you people.

The feeling is mutual. Feel free to leave at any time.

To me, an RPG has to have character development, story, and lots of numbers....

If that's your definition, no wonder you're confused

The other thing is... Who gives a rip what genre a game is?

Didn't you just try to define a genre yourself? Not very consistent of you.

If a game is fun, play it. If it isn't, don't, but you don't need to waste precious hours of your life arguing about what type of game it is.

We appreciate your advice, young padawan. Here is one for you: don't waste precious hours of your life arguing about things you don't understand.

 

[Thirteener]

Sorry, all.

Sorry you guys, I just needed something to bitch about in general. I fount the whole site last night on a google search and that's the forum that came up. I was just kinda pissed off period yesterday. Hope I didn't make anyone too mad. My apologies.

 

[Vault Dweller]

It's ok, bitching noobs are a form of entertainment around here, so if anything we regret that you came to your senses so soon.

 

[Anonymous]

But then again, bitching about the bitching on the Codex often seems to be someone's first post.

And then their second post is always the 'Sorry guys, i'm a dumbass!' post.

 

[Thirteener]

Damn, and I thought I was breaking the mold for a minute there... :wink: