Editorial Feargus Urquhart and Ray Muzyka's DICE 2013 Panel: The Future of the RPG Genre

[Major_Blackhart]

Very true.
Plus, havent they been paying attention to the market?
MMOs are dropping like flies.
Whatever happened to Tim Cain's MMO?

 

[handup]

Wow-clones are dropping like flies.

Would be more accurate.

 

[SuicideBunny]

Whatever happened to Tim Cain's MMO?

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/wildstar-next-ncsoft-mmorpg.80370/

 

[DalekFlay]

When you think of all the EA memos Docta' Ray had to read about marketing focus and consumer studies you start to understand why he sounds like a brainwashed marketing executive.

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

Gotta love these devconferences. It's borderline surreal. Just to see these streams of epic bullshit flowing from stage and everyone listening with serious faces, nodding. Simply watching the list of neighbouring videos and the screenstills on youtube makes me want to destroy humanity. Randy fucking Pitchford, Epic Monkey's Warren Spector (how low can one fall?), David prenetious moron Cage, etc. Feargus was at least ok, maybe one of the few sane people at this DICE circus. But goddamn Muzyka, do a lobotomy already, would you? It won't be any worse, I'm sure.

I'm sorry but I endorse this entire post. My thoughts exactly.

There's something mega-arrogant about these sorts of theatrical performances that makes you want to see these people die in a fire.

Real software developers hate mutual admiration societies. First mentioned by Frederick P. Brooks in THE MYTHICAL MAN-HOUR essays. Congratulating yourself for being so brilliant and so important is really a way of saying you have too much free time on your hands and don't spend much of it working on games. No games developer should ever assume the mantle of industry leader and act like he knows where all of this stuff is going because it is practically a guarantee that person will be a bankrupt within the coming 12 months. The only thing important is what the game players want and are going to vote on with their dollars, not what you think they "should" do.

This is also what irks me about Brenda Romero/Braithwaite/Garneau whatever her name is this month.

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

Very true.
Plus, havent they been paying attention to the market?
MMOs are dropping like flies.

This. Too true. Everybody on the planet has noticed except these guys.

When any boom/fad/gold rush comes to an end, there are always a large number of new entries who are just then investing huge sums of money to gain access to an industry segment that has ceased to exist. These kinds of guys always have nervous beads of sweat rolling down their foreheads because part of them suspects they have come down decisively on the wrong side of the future direction of things. So they hold a conference to try to talk this crap up again and convince others (and themselves) they are not about to do a world class face plant with a lot of money.

The traditional MMO model thing is dead. It made a lot of money for a while but then people realized this stuff essentially sucks and nobody wants to subscribe any longer. Old skoolers never really endorsed this stuff, it was young grade school kids who supported it for a while, really low standards and just impressed by the fact they were playing online with others.

 

[Cowboy Moment]

Oh Ray, who would have expected that Nietzsche quote from the beginning of BG1 to have been so portentous, all those years ago?

 

[Major_Blackhart]

I really really agree with Cleve right now.
Awesome.

 

[imweasel]

Oldfags never really leave an industry, they'll just talk shit now instead of doing shit.

As you can see Ray still seems (wants) to be in the business... he just doesn't have a studio.... Yet.

2 years max.