Preview FileFront previews Bloodlines

[merry andrew]

I was like "man, I'm probably gonna get Half-Life 2 and Bloodlines on the same day. I haven't played games for almost two months. I'm gonna overdose so hard."

 

[Surlent]

I know it's too much to ask for, but a lot of us here would be thrilled if Bloodlines turned into a "gateway drug" to RPGs for people who are normally just interested in action games.

Maybe the opposite holds true as well. RPG players getting into action games. Who knows, even Volo might get into some hardcore FPS games like UT2k4 after this.

btw IS that werewolf in this picture ?
http://www.gengamers.com/html/vampirebloodlines-32.html

 

[Whipporowill]

Of course it's a werewolf, what else would it be... a runaway puppy? I heard some of the more knowledgeable WW fans claim it's in it's war far - Crinos, and should be up to 10' tall... jeepers!

 

[Major_Blackhart]

Pooperscooper, no offense, but don't say capiche again cause it hurts my ears when you do it.

 

[Otaku_Hanzo]

Of course it's a werewolf, what else would it be... a runaway puppy? I heard some of the more knowledgeable WW fans claim it's in it's war far - Crinos, and should be up to 10' tall... jeepers!

And here I was thinking it was a mummy. Damn.

 

[Sarkile]

I don't really want to fight a werewolf in crinos because that's a fight the vampire will lose. Unless you're able to have silver bullets I guess.

 

[dipdipdip]

NPCs will deliver different lines based on your gender, clan, visual appearance, and previous actions in the game, and your responses will vary based on those factors

This was easily my favorite aspect of Arcanum. Especially when it came to the races. I really felt compelled to, at the very least, check out every last race to see how differently the gameworld and NPCs would treat me. I was never disappointed.

Would you say Bloodlines is in the same league as Arcanum, not by density or amount of dialogue, but by just how different it can be depending upon your clan (dialogue-wise)?

 

[Brizock]

I know it's too much to ask for, but a lot of us here would be thrilled if Bloodlines turned into a "gateway drug" to RPGs for people who are normally just interested in action games.

Maybe the opposite holds true as well. RPG players getting into action games. Who knows, even Volo might get into some hardcore FPS games like UT2k4 after this.

btw IS that werewolf in this picture ?
http://www.gengamers.com/html/vampirebloodlines-32.html

Yeah, it could definately go both ways, but I think that the RPG market could definately use a shot in the arm right now. It's very hard to get funding for one these days, as evidenced by the fact that so few are in development.

And yeah, that's a werewolf. He's one of the bosses you fight later in the game. Or rather, he's one of the bosses you face later in the game. Fighting him directly is not an advisable tactic. :wink:

 

[Diogo Ribeiro]

This was easily my favorite aspect of Arcanum. Especially when it came to the races. I really felt compelled to, at the very least, check out every last race to see how differently the gameworld and NPCs would treat me. I was never disappointed.

Not even with social and racial prejudices being basically nullified with a high charisma and beauty? I found that side effect to downplay the system a lot.

 

[dipdipdip]

This was easily my favorite aspect of Arcanum. Especially when it came to the races. I really felt compelled to, at the very least, check out every last race to see how differently the gameworld and NPCs would treat me. I was never disappointed.

Not even with social and racial prejudices being basically nullified with a high charisma and beauty? I found that side effect to downplay the system a lot.

You know what? I actually have to admit that I never got terribly far into the game...

 

[Brizock]

NPCs will deliver different lines based on your gender, clan, visual appearance, and previous actions in the game, and your responses will vary based on those factors

Would you say Bloodlines is in the same league as Arcanum, not by density or amount of dialogue, but by just how different it can be depending upon your clan (dialogue-wise)?

I would say that it's roughly on par if you're doing a clan / race dialog option comparison, with Arcanum possibly edging it out. But I'd say Bloodlines wins out overall for extra options based on stats, discliplines, etc.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

You know, I never really had a problem with a character rising above the racial prejudices in Arcanum by having a high charisma and/or beauty. It seemed as though it was a reward for someone putting that much effort into that stat.

 

[Diogo Ribeiro]

You know what? I actually have to admit that I never got terribly far into the game...

Well, you really didn't need to go that far in the game to encounter that problem. Tarant showed this very well. You could have a fugly Half-Orc trying to talk to a human who'd balk at its apperance, but if the Orc was charismatic, the person would almost forget it and speak with it.

You know, I never really had a problem with a character rising above the racial prejudices in Arcanum by having a high charisma and/or beauty. It seemed as though it was a reward for someone putting that much effort into that stat.

In a gameworld where Half-Orcs suffer discrimination in broad daylight and are untolerated by almost all races, it breaks immersion a bit when an NPC basically goes YOU'RE GODDAMN UGLY AND I HATE YOUR RACE BUT YOUR CHARISMA IS 18 SO I'LL BE NICE TO YOU MR. FUGLY ORC!!!.

I think it was a good attempt to have this kind of reaction based on race, but that flaw almost put it to waste.

 

[Transcendent One]

The only problem I had with that aspect was that you only needed to say one line that didn't sound very charismatic at all to change the NPC's opinion of you. But I do think that if an orc has such unusually high charisma NPC's would react like that, just maybe not immediately.

 

[Sol Invictus]

You know, inspite of the fact that I was actually sarcastic when I made the quip about the amount of dialogue/monologue in Bloodlines, it's scary to see how willing some of you to readily get down on your knees to suck this guy's dick. If it were David Gaider or some other Bioware guy talking about the amount of dialogue in Dragon Age you would have all made attempts to rip him a new one for no reason whatsoever. Oh wait, that already happened when he said there wouldn't be any dialogue constraints or wordcounts in Dragon Age.

 

[Briosafreak]

. If it were David Gaider or some other Bioware guy talking about the amount of dialogue in Dragon Age you would have all made attempts to rip him a new one for no reason whatsoever.:

You can have posts fellating the Bioware folks in many, many other places. This lack of enthusiasm with Bio is kind of a trademark of the Codex, it helps balancing the universe. A single thought and a single way of making RPGs isn`t enough, and this place defends pluralism, it´s a good thing, i honestly think that. Besides Gaider is a sport, he doesn`t take it the wrong way most of the time.

I still think Fallout is 100% better than BG though, and i hated ToEE too.

I still have to try the game before i get excited, but that much dialogue can`t be bad.

 

[Otaku_Hanzo]

Besides, Ex. It's not like the guy's being a chump or anything. Plus there's the fact that he just started posting here and not in the middle of some big controversial subject like most of the Bio guys did with their first posts.

He came on to give us some info that we've been querying about and was nice about it, so we're being nice back. Cope.

 

[Diogo Ribeiro]

If it were David Gaider or some other Bioware guy talking about the amount of dialogue in Dragon Age you would have all made attempts to rip him a new one for no reason whatsoever.

If it were David Gaider or some other Bioware guy talking about the amount of dialogue in Dragon Age you would have sucked his dick like a pro on a sailor's day off, so it pans out.

Seriously, this isn't meant to offend, but accusing others of virtual fellatio when you do it yourself depending on the situation is in pretty bad form.

 

[Kamaz]

Actually its not even CAPICE, but CAPISCE or CAPISCI or maybe somewhere CAPISC'.

But on topic - what is topic tw..ahh FileFront prefviews Blo...oh well, what can I say about Bloodlines previews..firstly, all of them are positive. Actually havent read any that is not positive. Considering Troika hasnt enough money to bribe them all..there must be something. The other thing, concrete mentioned things from gameplay do sound cool, innovative and elaborated. Even more, it seems story written/told very nice. It looks like there are side quests. And, whats the most interesting, it looks like there are choices that actually affect your gameplay. So, what is this all fuzz about? I guess it should very good game at least. Sure it is not Arcanum/Fallout, but that does not mean the game is not very good. Its hard to make my tongue pronounce Action when speaking of bloodlines.

So, we might fix on that - Bloodlines from previews seem very good game indeed. And the features mentioned seem real, so there is great chance the game is actually very good. IMO< conversation finished.

PS:
Brizock, you really could visit boards more often. And your brothers in arms too. Man, shame on you and your kind, shame.

 

[Sol Invictus]

If it were David Gaider or some other Bioware guy talking about the amount of dialogue in Dragon Age you would have all made attempts to rip him a new one for no reason whatsoever.

If it were David Gaider or some other Bioware guy talking about the amount of dialogue in Dragon Age you would have sucked his dick like a pro on a sailor's day off, so it pans out.

Seriously, this isn't meant to offend, but accusing others of virtual fellatio when you do it yourself depending on the situation is in pretty bad form.

When have I done that to Gaider? In case you forgot, I did mention that Gaider did mention some stuff about the dialogue in Dragon Age and everyone just jumped right on his ass for no reason for it.

 

[fnordcircle]

it's scary to see how willing some of you to readily get down on your knees to suck this guy's dick

Nice. Weren't you the psycho who just a month ago was mewling on and on about how devs won't take the site seriously unless things change? So people treat a Dev with respect and now they are fellating him. You're more random than a woman with mood swings.

PS - What's your fixation with cock sucking anyways? Bad uncle experience?

 

[Otaku_Hanzo]

You know, jumping all over someone's ass for saying there will be dialogue in their game is like blaming a car salesman because the car he sold you has tires. Wtf?

 

[Volourn]

"A single thought and a single way of making RPGs isn`t enough, and this place defends pluralism,"

No, it doesn't. It defends the 'Codex way. Period.

 

[Sol Invictus]

I don't intend to bash Bloodlines. I just intend to criticize them. Frankly, with all the critical remarks we make about other games, I don't see why they should be exempt from it. They would benefit from the criticism just as much as any company we've criticized would.

We don't want Troika to make crappy games, now do we? I, more than anyone else, want Vampire to be a good game. There hasn't been a decent RPG for a year.

 

[Ortchel]

Well, I think you scared him off. Good work.