First DoW2 Preview in a dutch magazine.

[Yannos]

Looks pretty cool, I wonder what the other races will be.

It's a Belgian magazine by the way, not Dutch.

 

[RK47]

as long they cut down on spess marines and mettel boxes...i'll be darn happy. and please no more pointless skirmishes, ffs.

 

[crufty]

Wish it was epic / 6mm scale. 40k has its place, but good lord, tallying up the dead at the end of an epic 40k game could be chilling at times.

 

[Trash]

The article had some other cool bits in it. Apparently you visit a number of planets with each their own terrain. The marines all have their own name, face and temperament to get you to grow attached to them.

The game is build on the idea that every unit is valuable and that you work to make them better. They want players to work towards a larger goal than the mission they're on. They want to implement this by the player being able to give squads and commanders acces to new gear, weapons and so on when you finnish missions.

The missions they descriped sounded like short actiony ones with clear goals. Defend a landing zone, one of you're units is under siege and must hold out for a certain time and so on. It all sounded pretty cool.

I hope they manage to pull it off. I had some defenite xcom and chaos gate vibes. That and I'm one of those suckers that love upgrading and improving his troops in a game.


PS There was also another article in the mag about a new aliens game. At first I thought it was that obsidian rpg but it seems gearbox is creating a tactical shooter in the aliens setting. Looked and sounded pretty good actually.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

This does excite me quite a bit, especially since there's a good chance Orks are getting a single player campaign! This means that I can equip my Boyz with customized snazzguns and turn them into Flash Gits!

 

[obediah]

PS There was also another article in the mag about a new aliens game. At first I thought it was that obsidian rpg but it seems gearbox is creating a tactical shooter in the aliens setting. Looked and sounded pretty good actually.

Can anyone tell me WTF a tactical shooter is? I assume it used to be something like Operation Flashpoint, or the Old Rainbow Six games, where you commanded AI partners and got dead easily. But now every FPS seems to let you take 5-6 rounds to the face as long as you hide behind a rock for 5 seconds afterwards, and at most allow you to tell two morons to 'go where I'm looking' or 'stop'.

Is it as simple as a shooter uses the dpad to change weapons, and a tactical shooter uses the dpad to give your two commands?

 

[Tychus Findlay]

There's a (I'm assuming) cinematic clip here where you can't see shit that was linked from here.

Since my German is lacking and you guys can do it better than the Babel, does the article confirm that this clip is for the game?

Also Der Shpesh Murheener:

 

[Annonchinil]

I just downloaded some DoW demos, aye, I hope DoW2 plays more like CoH than the original.

 

[Tychus Findlay]

PS There was also another article in the mag about a new aliens game. At first I thought it was that obsidian rpg but it seems gearbox is creating a tactical shooter in the aliens setting. Looked and sounded pretty good actually.

Can anyone tell me WTF a tactical shooter is? I assume it used to be something like Operation Flashpoint, or the Old Rainbow Six games, where you commanded AI partners and got dead easily. But now every FPS seems to let you take 5-6 rounds to the face as long as you hide behind a rock for 5 seconds afterwards, and at most allow you to tell two morons to 'go where I'm looking' or 'stop'.

Is it as simple as a shooter uses the dpad to change weapons, and a tactical shooter uses the dpad to give your two commands?

Basically, yeah...it's been watered down (like everything else).

Instead of just running and gunning around, you have to use "tactics" like stealth, knowledge of terrain/environment/weapon characteristics, teamwork, etc. to win

***
Bah just realized the "smart" player uses that same shit in regular FPSs.

I suppose tacshooters are more dependent on those aspects for a victory condition as opposed to individual rambos who have good FPS skills.

 

[obediah]

PS There was also another article in the mag about a new aliens game. At first I thought it was that obsidian rpg but it seems gearbox is creating a tactical shooter in the aliens setting. Looked and sounded pretty good actually.

Can anyone tell me WTF a tactical shooter is? I assume it used to be something like Operation Flashpoint, or the Old Rainbow Six games, where you commanded AI partners and got dead easily. But now every FPS seems to let you take 5-6 rounds to the face as long as you hide behind a rock for 5 seconds afterwards, and at most allow you to tell two morons to 'go where I'm looking' or 'stop'.

Is it as simple as a shooter uses the dpad to change weapons, and a tactical shooter uses the dpad to give your two commands?

Basically, yeah...it's been watered down (like everything else).

Instead of just running and gunning around, you have to use "tactics" like stealth, knowledge of terrain/environment/weapon characteristics, teamwork, etc. to win

***
Bah just realized the "smart" player uses that same shit in regular FPSs.

I suppose tacshooters are more dependent on those aspects for a victory condition as opposed to individual rambos who have good FPS skills.

Thanks for confirming the worst!

 

[Fez]

I wouldn't want it to turn into CoH in space. If I want to play CoH, then I already have that series available to me.

I'm surprised that they are taking such a different route with this sequel. I expected it to be more of the same but with a shinier engine with extra bloom.

It sounds promising so far. Too early to tell how it will turn out, of course, but they seem to be trying to do something other than repackage the old and milk the franchise.

The campaign changes and co-op of all things sounds good. I hope that isn't cut before release.

 

[psycojester]

There's a (I'm assuming) cinematic clip here where you can't see shit that was linked from here.

Since my German is lacking and you guys can do it better than the Babel, does the article confirm that this clip is for the game?

Also Der Shpesh Murheener:

Question: What the fucking hell happened to his arm?

 

[Keender_surprise]

steroid abuse?

 

[NiM82]

Probably tainted by chaos.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

He punched a vagina!

 

[Jaime Lannister]

He punched a vagina!

A chaos vagina?

 

[Disconnected]

A chaos vagina?

Probably. At least, I'm pretty sure lugging around a Techpriest poweraxe isn't on any Codex Astartes to-do list.

 

[Trash]

Can anyone tell me WTF a tactical shooter is? I assume it used to be something like Operation Flashpoint, or the Old Rainbow Six games, where you commanded AI partners and got dead easily. But now every FPS seems to let you take 5-6 rounds to the face as long as you hide behind a rock for 5 seconds afterwards, and at most allow you to tell two morons to 'go where I'm looking' or 'stop'.

Is it as simple as a shooter uses the dpad to change weapons, and a tactical shooter uses the dpad to give your two commands?

Well, the two gearbox tactical shooters I've played were a lot of fun. But since they specifically stated that "you won't be going to flank aliens in this one" I suspect that which you describe will be a part of what the alien shooter will have. Arcade and shooter gameplau with some squad elements thrown in for good measure. Mind you, that might not be a bad thing. As long as the game has the tension and atmosphere it could be great. Since gearbox has a pretty good track record, I'm rather hopefull.

 

[Deleted member 7219]

I really hope DoW2 learns a few things from CoH. Less base building and more combat, that's what the 40k universe is all about... violence.

 

[kingcomrade]

DoW is one of those games where cool graphics is unnecessary.

Dawn of War not about eye candy? It's a 40k tie-in game, ffs.

 

[RK47]

exactly. the explosions the flying bodies, the shouts from your units as they lose morale and raining bolters on the xenos. I haven't felt the same sensation as I did when I called down an orbital bombardment on a mass of greenskins while my teammate called down the earthshakers from his basilisks.

 

[Elwro]

Ah, fuck it, reinstalling Mark of Chaos; maybe no orbital ombardment but still the Skaven Big Ben

 

[Nael]

Frankly, I wish the game would be turn-based - Chaos Gate wasn't the greatest title I have ever played, but I did enjoy it thoroughly.

Frankly, you're a fucking idiot. No one thinks you're cool because you still wish they made turn based strategy games. Go play some chess if RT makes your head hurt or whatever.

 

[Kingston]

Screenshots

http://www.shacknews.com/screenshots.x? ... me_id=5165

 

[Disconnected]

Frankly, you're a fucking idiot. No one thinks you're cool because you still wish they made turn based strategy games. Go play some chess if RT makes your head hurt or whatever.

Yeah, what's with that fucking idiot?! How dare he even think of a video game implementation of a tabletop wargame that stays true to the actual turn based tabletop wargame?! He must be on crack. And a fucking idiot to boot!

Yes, that was sarcasm, Neal. Now go play Dune2 you fucking idiot.