For programmers: Which scripting language is better and why?

[Ninja Cartographer]

The ToEE Engine recreation project guy extended the question at Co8, and I thought it wouldn't hurt if some of the programming geeks here weighed in.

http://www.co8.org/forum/showthread.php?p=107873

 

[procrastinator]

So my question to you is: Would you rather script the game in C# or JavaScript?

 

[Overweight Manatee]

So my question to you is: Would you rather script the game in C# or JavaScript?

The first prototype (of which some builds float around this forum) uses JavaScript exclusively and converts the legacy Python scripts to JavaScript as well.

 

[cardtrick]

So my question to you is: Would you rather script the game in C# or JavaScript?

Sounds like they're probably using Unity for a game engine. That's the only reason I can think of for Javascript and C# to be the two options. (Unity uses Mono to run C# and Javascript as its primary scripting language. It also supports Boo, which is a Python-ish language for .NET/Mono.)

It's not a bad choice, silly though it sounds. Unity is a really solid engine.

 

[thursdayschild]

:retard:

I wondered why they the co8 mods were like 26 years in development and still not working.

Now I know!

 

[VentilatorOfDoom]

the whole recreated ToEE engine is coded in c# iirc (had a look at the source code once), so why not using it for scripting too? Don't see any advantage javascript could possibly have over c#.

 

[DraQ]

Pretty much.

 

[shihonage]

I googled "scripting language" and got this.

Hope it is of some help.

 

[villain of the story]

Lots of programmer butthurt ITT

And well, maybe if you actually put your spectacular knowledge of hardcore programming to an actual use, like, I don't know, making games? then maybe you wouldn't be so butthurt about some guy who finds Javascript or C# easier and faster to learn and use than sinking years into low level programming to achieve the same result where performance is unlikely to be an issue for the objective (rewriting ToEE engine) at this point of average hardware available. So, gently shove your IT elitism up your stinky assholes and try to be glad that someone has what it takes to try making one of the Codex favourites more playable and possibly future-proof, as opposed to the resident lazy assholes who aspire to be programmers with all the knowledge and skills but couldn't be bothered to even try.

 

[VentilatorOfDoom]

maybe javascript as scripting language will be easier for module makers to pick up

btw you're the only one sounding butthurt itt

 

[villain of the story]

You keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile, tell us how your game is turning out. The one you're not making

 

[VentilatorOfDoom]

So a guy asks for opinions whether to use javascript or c# for scripting, I say I'd prefer c#. Then you come along and excreed some inane drivel about butthurt and how every programmer should make a game in his spare time and whatnot.

Are you on drugs you blathering idiot?

 

[Alex]

I don't know either of these languages, but my favorite language for creating scripts is Perl. So whichever is closer to that, I guess.

 

[SCO]

Re: For programmers: Which scripting language is better and

The ToEE Engine recreation project guy extended the question at Co8, and I thought it wouldn't hurt if some of the programming geeks here weighed in.

http://www.co8.org/forum/showthread.php?p=107873

It is truly moronic to start a engine recreation project and don't use the scripting language that the original game and mods used, that is even forward compatible in major versions - in the interpreter, not the bindings - python (and i don't even like untyped languages).

The same kind of retardation was considered for the resurgence (lol, more like burial) project for VtM:B.

And you know what? The bugs aren't in the scripting language. Changing it won't make your project attract more people or easier to mod. It won't do a fucking thing. Except make you more work and introduce new and interesting bugs that didn't exist in the original game because you had to rewrite EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF GAME LOGIC. And turn the modding community against you of course - they would have to choose to mod your engine or the original game. Guess what i would chose.

 

[SCO]

Oh they are using a automatic converter.




Btw, i managed to insert python 2.7 from python 2.2 (or 2.1 can't recall) in bloodlines recently.



This in the original engine, not a reimplementation.



I probably could have gone to 3.2 if was part of a "reimplementation project" and if I used the py2py3 conversion utility in the scripts. It would actually be a kind of good idea because python 3.X has real unicode strings so internationalization becomes possible for the dialogs and fucking weird runtime charset errors disappear.

 

[Shemar]

And well, maybe if you actually put your spectacular knowledge of hardcore programming to an actual use, like, I don't know, making games?

Because I make a whole lot more money building business apps than games.

So, gently shove your IT elitism up your stinky assholes and try to be glad that someone has what it takes to try making one of the Codex favourites more playable and possibly future-proof, as opposed to the resident lazy assholes who aspire to be programmers with all the knowledge and skills but couldn't be bothered to even try.

As someone already said, you are the only one who sounds butthurt...

 

[villain of the story]

You keep telling yourself that, lazy asshole. You can't even bring yourself to admit that you have become a soul-wretched entity who has stopped caring about anything much less RPGs. And why so desperate to claim that someone other than you is butthurt? Sounds like a typical case of butthurt to me

 

[mister_matt]

You keep telling yourself that, lazy asshole. You can't even bring yourself to admit that you have become a soul-wretched entity who has stopped caring about anything much less RPGs. And why so desperate to claim that someone other than you is butthurt? Sounds like a typical case of butthurt to me

0/10

 

[hanssolo]

You keep telling yourself that.

You keep telling yourself that, lazy asshole.

Was that on purpose? Because either way it's pretty lame, you fucked up.

 

[villain of the story]

:,(

 

[eugene2k]

Javascript or C# easier and faster to learn

Quit comparing Javascript to C++. Compare it to Python or Lua instead. Then maybe you'll understand the butthurt that you think you have detected.

 

[thesheeep]

Stop feeding the troll.

 

[Sitra Achara]

So my question to you is: Would you rather script the game in C# or JavaScript?

Sounds like they're probably using Unity for a game engine. That's the only reason I can think of for Javascript and C# to be the two options. (Unity uses Mono to run C# and Javascript as its primary scripting language. It also supports Boo, which is a Python-ish language for .NET/Mono.)

It's not a bad choice, silly though it sounds. Unity is a really solid engine.

He's using Mono, but not Unity.

P.S. OP is me (my Blackspace alt).

 

[Shemar]

You keep telling yourself that, lazy asshole. You can't even bring yourself to admit that you have become a soul-wretched entity who has stopped caring about anything much less RPGs.

I can't speak for anybody else, but in my case I just care about too many things, so caring about RPGs specifically is pretty low on the list.

And why so desperate to claim that someone other than you is butthurt? Sounds like a typical case of butthurt to me

The only thing I am desperate for is for the time to pass, since it is a slow day at work, which is pretty much the only time I would waste posting on an internet forum.

 

[SCO]

He's using Mono, but not Unity.

P.S. OP is me (my Blackspace alt).

So why not use ironpython or something.

Oh i see it's not the engine that is C#, but the script interpreter.

Tell the dude, just use python, don't split the modding community.