Guild Wars 1

[Average Manatee]

Diablo II did summoning better imo. Low/no maintenance, quicker, more gory and satisfying corpse exploits. In GW, I'd much rather do curses or spam wells of power all over the place with blood magic and outsource summoning to the npcs. It's less busywork.

But playing a summoner in D2 was extremely dull, like it is in basically all hack and slashers, unlike in GW1.

Other way around, in my opinion. I found skeleton necromancer in Diablo 2 a lot more fun than GW MM builds. Especially because of the whole "minions decompose over time" shit which is just balance by tedium. In both cases you're mostly just watching your minions engage in combat while you fire off one or two combat skills periodically, but in GW you also have the whole problem that you have to either keep casting Blood of the Master all the time, or enter combat with most/all of your minions dead and you have to wait until the enemy is already dying to get more of them. I like spirit builds a lot better in that regard because you can get your spirits up at the start of combat.

Diablo 2 has Corpse Explosion and teleporting to bring all your minions with you in a massive melee ball to attack things. Not really much contest. The interesting gameplay part of GW1 necro is curses, especially those that you can combo with minions. Leaving the MMing to a hero is how most play I expect.

 

[luj1]

Summoning Necro was fun in Guild Wars

Ritualist too

 

[Black]

 

[KörangarTheMighty]

Str8 outta 2007. PWNED NOOBLET!

God, I'm old...

 

[Black]

That kid is probably around 30 now.
Time is a bitch.

 

[KörangarTheMighty]

Yes, sounds like he was 12 to 14 back then. Thinking on it, it's kinda weird how leetspeak died such a quiet death around 2010/11? I remember hearing the "OWNED/FAIL/NOOB/WOOT!" shit everywhere. RIP to that bit of Millenialsprach.

 

[Kev Inkline]

I'll always cherish warm and kind memories of a Chinese gold seller named Adolph Hitala.

 

[rubinstein]

literally me in 2007, it only lacks linkin park blasting in the background

 

[Average Manatee]

Holy shit that build is an awesome blast from the past

 

[Cyberarmy]

God, I love Guild Wars 1 pvp, it is sad that they changed it in favor of RvRvR.
Also loved WoWs pvp before any expansion packs but GW1 was a different beast. Missed my fighter :/

 

[Black]

https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Game_updates/20090401
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Game_updates/20080401

 

[Black]

I love this so much.

 

[Black]

Another GW birthday is upon us, this time is the 19th, and it marks yet another period of Vaettir holocaust.

 

[KörangarTheMighty]

"Working in Egil's Perch, we could often smell the sickly-sweet scent of birthday cake and honey wafting up from the southeast. We never knew what it was..."

 

[Kev Inkline]

Yes, sounds like he was 12 to 14 back then. Thinking on it, it's kinda weird how leetspeak died such a quiet death around 2010/11? I remember hearing the "OWNED/FAIL/NOOB/WOOT!" shit everywhere. RIP to that bit of Millenialsprach.

It's quite bit older than millenial shift though, I remember 1337 sp33k was present in amiga demos, already.

 

[Hell Swarm]

Yes, sounds like he was 12 to 14 back then. Thinking on it, it's kinda weird how leetspeak died such a quiet death around 2010/11? I remember hearing the "OWNED/FAIL/NOOB/WOOT!" shit everywhere. RIP to that bit of Millenialsprach.

It's quite bit older than millenial shift though, I remember 1337 sp33k was present in amiga demos, already.

I blame smart phones. Auto correct ruined everything.

 

[Lacrymas]

I'm kinda hoping they do a rebalance on the 20th anniversary because mesmers are too op and have been op for a decade now.

 

[KörangarTheMighty]

If they did such a thing, I think of all the classes, Ranger needs the most work in PvE, especially end game. Literally better off as shitty budget dagger spam in the current build rather than using their own skills, with the exception of TAO support perhaps. Many Bow abilities are too expensive energy-wise, preparations and nature spirits take too fucking long to activate and old go-tos like splinter/ignite are spent too quick and are too situational. Hell, wouldn't it be cool if trapping was viable for something?

 

[Darth Roxor]

mesmers are too op and have been op for a decade now.

qq moar

 

[Lacrymas]

My main is a mesmer, so I'm not qq-ing. Well, I kinda am because the best parties atm consist of 8 mesmers, which isn't very cool.

 

[Hell Swarm]

How OP can any single class be in a party of 8? Unless you have specific builds to farm specific areas you're likely not doing exceptional well compared to any other decent build. Ranger is still procing a lot of status across a group of enemies even if it's "weak"

 

[Lacrymas]

How OP can any single class be in a party of 8?

Mesmers have 2 things that make them op - fast casting and armor-ignoring damage. Fast casting is super good in general, so a party of 8 primary mesmers is going to do better than a mixed bag of primary casters whose special attributes are overall meh. And *all* mesmer skills ignore armor, which makes them the highest DPS class in the game. Some people have speculated that this is a bug because mesmer skills don't have assigned damage types, like *some* necro skills (which also ignore armor because of it).

 

[Black]

There's certainly diminishing returns to having a lot of mesmers. At some point you're better swapping 2 mesmers in your party for a melee with a support rit with Strength of Honor and Splinter Weapon.

 

[Average Manatee]

As a Ranger main who has henched everything pre-heroes and then hero/henched everything afterwards pre mesmer buffs, git fucking good you casuals.

If there's anything that's OP it's Splinter Weapon. LMAO prebuff for 200 damage AoE then immediately buff again for another 200 damage. The only impediment to PvE dominance with physicals is you have to first micro spirit weapon and hero physicals are stupid tards so you can't double up the damage. Also its armor ignoring. Like half the skills in the game are armor ignoring, it's not a bug, this includes around 95% of attack skills.

Granted if splinter weapon didn't exist a lot of physicals would be underpowered in AoE capacity, it basically carries half the classes in the game.

 

[KörangarTheMighty]

As a Ranger main who has henched everything pre-heroes and then hero/henched everything afterwards pre mesmer buffs, git fucking good you casuals.

Did exactly the same thing, ranger was my first class and it was underwhelming. Splinter is only good if you can consistently cluster enemies, rarely happens in PVE, certainly not with henchmen skill bars. Physical heroes are indeed worthless, especially rangers and warriors.