[04:32] <Afker> anyways, so which AliceSoft game shall we discuss today?
[04:32] <Elementasts> Daiakuji XD
[04:33] <Afker> k
[04:33] <Afker> Daiakuji is set in a parallel universe
[04:33] <Elementasts> hmmm
[04:33] <Afker> America is an extreme Feminist society
[04:34] <Afker> Japan just lost WWII
[04:34] <Afker> so there's a American army presence in Japan
[04:34] <Elementasts> hmmm
[04:35] <Elementasts> sounds good
[04:35] <Afker> you grandpa runs the biggest mafia/gangster group in Oosaka
[04:35] <Afker> your name is Yamamoto Akuji
[04:36] <Elementasts> I thought Japan lost?
[04:36] <Afker> so you naturally grew up with the black society
[04:36] <Afker> during the war, you were captured by the Americans
[04:36] <Afker> but after the war, you get to go home
[04:37] <Afker> XCal, you have toshin toshi 2?
[04:37] <Elementasts> aaaah
[04:37] <Elementasts> the evil god thingie
[04:37] <Xcaliberium> and pick if you wanna give good luck or let the bad luck get them
[04:37] <Afker> I played the demo
[04:37] <Afker> it was fun
[04:38] <Xcaliberium> it even has Tentacles and Brother + mom Action
[04:38] <Afker> demo of mamorigamisama
[04:38] <Elementasts> oh man
[04:38] <Xcaliberium> oh and the aliens abductions
[04:38] <Elementasts> hehe
[04:38] <Xcaliberium> wish it were longer
[04:39] <Xcaliberium> never played it
[04:39] <Xcaliberium> what is toshi about?
[04:44] <Afker> ok
[04:44] <Afker> so back to daiakuji
[04:44] <Afker> after you come home to japan
[04:44] <Elementasts> k
[04:44] <Afker> you find that your grandpa left the mafia organization
[04:44] <Afker> his mistress now controls thigns
[04:44] <Afker> and she doesn't like you
[04:45] <Elementasts> where's your grandpa?
[04:45] <Afker> so you get beaten up
[04:45] <Xcaliberium> H the mistress H the mistress
[04:45] <Elementasts> I wanna know what happened to grandpa
[04:45] <Afker> Xcal: you can, but no strong enough yet
[04:45] <Afker> the grandpa just decided to leave or something
[04:45] <H-junkie> u get thrown outta de organization i guess
[04:45] <Afker> yeah
[04:45] <H-junkie> den u gotta start a new org
[04:45] <Afker> not quite
[04:45] <H-junkie> n overthrow ur grandpa's mistress
[04:46] <H-junkie> eh?
[04:46] <H-junkie> not quite?
[04:46] <Afker> you don't start one
[04:46] <Xcaliberium> you join a rival one?
[04:46] <H-junkie> u steal one?
[04:46] <Afker> you find one that's started, and..
[04:46] <Afker> yeah
[04:46] <Xcaliberium> even butter
[04:46] <Afker> mmm
[04:46] <Xcaliberium> err better
[04:46] * Afker realizes that almost sounded like rance 5
[04:46] <H-junkie> ah n crawl from de bottem
[04:47] <Afker> no
[04:47] <Xcaliberium> maybe it is in a different reality
[04:47] <Xcaliberium> of time
[04:47] <Afker> haha
[04:47] <Afker> anyways
[04:47] <Afker> before we go anyfurthur
[04:47] <Xcaliberium> or Rances great great great great great grandson
[04:47] <Afker> let's explain the political system there
[04:47] <H-junkie> woah
[04:47] <H-junkie> deep complicated stuff
[04:47] <Afker> the City of Oosaka is divided into different... county/regions
[04:48] * Xcaliberium is so confused a qaurter seems complex
[04:48] <Elementasts> this will make for even more complicated gaming nights XD
[04:48] <H-junkie> lol
[04:48] <Afker> various organizations control different regions
[04:48] <Afker> of oosaka
[04:48] <Afker> and they would fight each other for control over regions
[04:48] <Afker> there's a city council that oversees the conflicts between organizations
[04:48] <Elementasts> how many regions are there?
[04:49] <Afker> tons
[04:49] <Elementasts> man
[04:49] <Afker> at least 20
[04:49] <Xcaliberium> can you buy nukes? or bio weapons?
[04:49] <Elementasts> thats gonna be a long game
[04:49] <Afker> youc an't buy them
[04:49] <Afker> the americans have the nuke
[04:49] <Elementasts> steal?
[04:49] <Xcaliberium> how about swords?
[04:49] <Afker> can't get it
[04:49] <Afker> nah
[04:49] <Xcaliberium> what timeline?
[04:49] <Afker> this is mob fighting
[04:49] <Afker> right after WWII
[04:49] <Xcaliberium> far future with sabers
[04:49] <Elementasts> tommy guns
[04:49] <Afker> in parallel universe
[04:49] <H-junkie> omg
[04:49] <Xcaliberium> oh
[04:49] <Elementasts> like dose gangsters
[04:50] <Xcaliberium> who won WW2
[04:50] <H-junkie> mob fightin most primitiveof all fightin styles
[04:50] <Afker> US
[04:50] <Elementasts> Feminist America
[04:50] <Elementasts> XD
[04:50] <Afker> yup
[04:50] <Xcaliberium> so in this game US won?
[04:50] <Afker> yeah
[04:50] <Xcaliberium> so how is it parrallel
[04:50] <H-junkie> de diff is US take control of Japan
[04:50] <Afker> US is feminist
[04:51] <Afker> it doesn't completely "control" japan
[04:51] <Xcaliberium> well some much for everything tasting like chicken
[04:51] <Xcaliberium> guess it is choclate now
[04:51] <Afker> but has a strong military presence, and hence heavy influence
[04:51] <H-junkie> but theres sum influence
[04:51] <H-junkie> i c
[04:51] <H-junkie> wait a minute....us got heavy military influence in jap too now
[04:51] <Afker> so, there are several organizations right now in oosaka
[04:51] <Afker> city council controls 2
[04:52] <Afker> the Americans stationed at one
[04:52] <Afker> your grandpa's old organization controls most of Oosaka
[04:52] <Afker> there's a river that cuts off 1/3 of oosaka, and that 1/3 is controled by PM
[04:52] <Afker> that's in the east
[04:53] <Afker> to the far west a religious group (we'll just call it the Cult) controls a few regions
[04:53] <Afker> there are a few independent ones
[04:53] <Afker> and a "YMCA" kind of group (not religious or anyting, but just young people service group) controls one region
[04:55] <Afker> so
[04:55] <Afker> after you got beaten up by the old group
[04:56] <Afker> you were found by this YMCA group
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[04:56] <Elementasts> ok
[04:57] <Afker> they thought you are a random bad guy
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[04:57] <Afker> so you fought them
[04:57] <Afker> and you lost (cuz you just got beaten up by your grandpa's old gang)
[04:57] <Delphox> H-junkie?
[04:57] <Delphox> are you here?
[04:57] <Elementasts> hehe
[04:57] <H-junkie> yep
[04:57] <H-junkie> got dc
[04:57] <Afker> however
[04:58] <H-junkie> damn did i miss nething on daiakuji
[04:58] <Afker> after they brought you back to their HQ, you managed to trick them
[04:58] <Delphox> hey afker?
[04:58] <Elementasts> trick?
[04:58] <H-junkie> ahhh...
[04:58] <Afker> Del: yes?
[04:58] * H-junkie concentrates on narrative
[04:58] <H-junkie> doh
[04:58] <H-junkie> u just have to interrupt delphox
[04:58] <H-junkie> lol
[04:59] <Afker> you told them you can make this really good food
[04:59] <Afker> and one of the girls of the YMCA group really likes eating
[04:59] <Delphox> ups sorry H-junkie... ;b
[04:59] <H-junkie> hehe just kiddin XP
[04:59] <Elementasts> XD
[04:59] <Afker> so she released you so you can make them food
[04:59] <Elementasts> hahaha
[04:59] <H-junkie> food?
[04:59] <Afker> but instead, you XXXed them
[04:59] <H-junkie> LOL
[04:59] <H-junkie> dats sum revenge
[04:59] <Afker> and when their leader came back, you XXXed her
[05:00] <H-junkie> hahaha
[05:00] <Afker> and took control of YMCA
[05:00] <Afker> that's the beginning of the story
[05:00] <Elementasts> and then you XXX a whoel lot more XD
[05:00] <Afker> your goal: to rule over oosaka
[05:02] <Afker> basically, you were so good in bed (technically, you didn't do it in bed...), the girls fall in love with you
[05:02] <Elementasts> hehe
[05:15] <Afker> for daiakuji,
[05:15] <Afker> each region needs to be governed
[05:15] <Elementasts> hmm
[05:15] <Afker> in order to collect "Protection Fee"
[05:16] <Afker> also to reduce crime rate
[05:16] <Elementasts> hehe
[05:16] <Elementasts> reduce
[05:16] <Afker> (ie, crime not committed by you)
[05:16] <Elementasts> oh
[05:16] <Afker> the lower the crime rate (safer), the more fees you can collect
[05:17] <Afker> but also depends on the basic "collectibility" of each region
[05:17] <Elementasts> money potential?
[05:17] <Afker> and the "collect ability" of people you stationed there
[05:17] <Afker> yeah
[05:17] <Afker> so collectbility is max money you can get from each region
[05:18] <Afker> but if your ppl stationed there only able to collect 50, then even if collectibility is 500, you'll only get 50
[05:18] <Afker> each region you can have one building
[05:18] <Afker> it can be some crome control thing (one of them do weird radio wave to reduce crime)
[05:18] <Afker> some are vending machines
[05:19] <Elementasts> hmm
[05:19] <Afker> working girl houses
[05:19] <Elementasts> O_o
[05:19] <Afker> "training center"
[05:19] <Afker> etc
[05:19] <Elementasts> I thought this was a combat game?
[05:20] <Afker> combat and govern
[05:20] <Elementasts> k
[05:20] <Afker> turn based
[05:20] <Afker> each turn is one week
[05:21] <Afker> each week you can do one "region action" (like the Rance 5 city action)
[05:21] <Afker> then you can interact with one subordinate
[05:21] <Afker> (train, talk, H)
[05:21] <Afker> (reward)
[05:22] <Elementasts> is it as complicated as Rance 5?
[05:22] <Afker> simpler
[05:22] <Afker> or, in most ways simpler
[05:22] <Afker> each subordinate has this "royality" stat
[05:22] <Afker> also there's a "Royality type"
[05:23] <Elementasts> loyalty?
[05:23] <Afker> yeah
[05:23] <Afker> d-:
[05:24] <Elementasts> k
[05:24] <Afker> types include: "Material Desire", "Love Desire", and "Unconditional"
[05:24] <Afker> "unconditional" reflects bad translation on my part
[05:24] <Elementasts> hehe
[05:24] <Elementasts> maybe slave type?
[05:24] <Afker> it really means the person is serving you out of principle, as opposed to desire
[05:25] <Afker> no
[05:25] <H-junkie> basicly faithful to u
[05:25] <Afker> like a true loyal friend, wife,
[05:25] <Afker> yeah
[05:25] <H-junkie> unwaverin support n loyalty :D
[05:25] <Afker> looks up to you
[05:25] <Afker> yup
[05:25] <Afker> mmm
[05:25] <Afker> Faith would be a better word
[05:25] <H-junkie> i guess love desire is da best den
[05:25] <H-junkie> lol
[05:26] <H-junkie> x , x n more xxx :D
[05:26] <Afker> ok, so for Faith type, the loyalty degree will never decrease, and always at 99 (max)
[05:26] <Elementasts> >:D
[05:26] <Afker> the other two types will decrease with time
[05:26] <Afker> giving rewards (money) will increase loyality
[05:27] <Afker> and for Love desire, you can H them to increase loyality
[05:27] <H-junkie> yea
[05:27] <H-junkie> da best
[05:27] <Afker> but how much it increases depends on your "technique" stat
[05:27] <H-junkie> woah...not so easy eh
[05:27] <Afker> some female subordinates might start as Faith or Material desire, but become Love Desire after you H them
[05:28] <H-junkie> ahhh....hidden catch
[05:28] <Afker> if loyalty is too low, they might simply run off and disappear from your organization
[05:28] <Afker> also, like rance 5, if they die in battle, they die
[05:31] <Afker> you can station your subordinate in regions you control, and regions adjacent to the ones you control
[05:31] <Xcaliberium> what is the game called?
[05:31] <Afker> if you station ppl in enemy regions, or if enemy station ppl in your regions, then you can fight
[05:31] <Afker> Daiakuji
[05:31] <H-junkie> literally means big evil sushi
[05:31] <H-junkie> LOL
[05:32] <Afker> eh
[05:32] <Afker> not sushi
[05:32] <Afker> d-:
[05:32] <Afker> there's a max of 6 ppl per side that can be stationed at a region
[05:33] <Afker> during fights
[05:33] <Afker> it's turnbased
[05:33] <H-junkie> 6 onli?
[05:33] <H-junkie> i tot it was a mob figt?
[05:33] <Afker> the number of turns in a fight is the max number of ppl on either side
[05:34] <Afker> so if you have 4 ppl stations, the enemy has 5 ppl stationed, then there will be 5 turns
[05:34] <Afker> d-:
[05:34] <Afker> each turn you pick one person (you can keep picking the same person)
[05:34] <H-junkie> u noe de game too well if u ask me........
[05:34] <Afker> so one from each side attack each other once
[05:34] <Afker> I played it for weeks during winter break
[05:34] <Afker> solved it twice
[05:35] <Afker> d-:
[05:35] <H-junkie> wow....u conquered oosaka twice?
[05:35] <Afker> yeah
[05:35] <Xcaliberium> never went for that 10 games a day beating it each time
[05:35] <Afker> hehe
[05:35] <H-junkie> lol
[05:36] <Afker> I haven't done half the things I can do with that game though
[05:36] <Elementasts> damn
[05:36] <H-junkie> even tho lord afker didn't do half de things in de game u du have to be so fustrated Elementasts
[05:36] * Xcaliberium falls alseeep
[05:37] <Afker> sorry
[05:37] * H-junkie buries Xcaliberium n sticks a "Dig me up ya hear?" sign on top of de mound
[05:37] <Afker> so, fight either ends when all of one side gets killed
[05:37] <Afker> or if number of turns is up
[05:37] <Xcaliberium> I need some sleep been up for like 29 hours now
[05:37] <Afker> if number of turns is up, then the challenger loses
[05:38] <H-junkie> wait a minute...so in de given scenario u gave de whole fight will end after 5 turns?
[05:38] <Afker> characters with HP less than 5 risk being captured by the enemy
[05:38] <H-junkie> i c
[05:38] <Afker> yeah
[05:38] <H-junkie> so its a fast fight kinda hting
[05:38] <Afker> capturing is good
[05:39] <Elementasts> cuz you get ot H?
[05:39] <Afker> cuz you can recruit them, h the females, or turtore them to find out secrets
[05:39] <H-junkie> oooh...torture~
[05:39] <Afker> recruit is improtant
[05:39] <Afker> torture never works in one try
[05:40] <Elementasts> torture = H too?
[05:40] <Afker> have to do it multiple times (multiple weeks)
[05:40] <H-junkie> dats y torturin is enjoyable
[05:40] <H-junkie> never works on de first try
[05:40] <H-junkie> :D
[05:40] <H-junkie> but its a waste of turns i guess
[05:40] <Afker> no
[05:40] <Elementasts> torture also gives you H pics right?
[05:41] <Afker> not really
[05:41] <Afker> depends
[05:41] <Afker> for a few characters, yes
[05:41] <H-junkie> de core charaters?
[05:41] <Afker> but after you get stuff from turtoring, the prisoner dies
[05:41] <H-junkie> wow
[05:41] <Afker> some of the core characters, not all
[05:41] <Elementasts>
[05:41] <Elementasts> the prisoner dies?
[05:41] <H-junkie> snuff... XD
[05:41] <Elementasts> das bad
[05:42] <H-junkie> too evil
[05:42] <Afker> you can send female captives into training
[05:42] <Afker> working girl training
[05:43] <Afker> there are different levels of working girl
[05:43] <Afker> the higher levels will get you more money
[05:43] <H-junkie> makin prostitution an art
[05:43] <Afker> but takes longer to get to those levels
[05:44] <Afker> on the other hand, the more customers they serve, the less they are worth
[05:44] <Afker> (depreciated)
[05:44] <H-junkie> lol
[05:44] <H-junkie> like a car
[05:44] <Afker> but you can also sell them completely
[05:44] <Afker> sell them out
[05:44] <H-junkie> dats sum badass values de game imparts
[05:44] <Afker> cuz there's a max num of working girl you can have
[05:44] <Afker> so sell the onces that don't make as much money
[05:44] <H-junkie> yah
[05:45] <H-junkie> sell de cheap-o sluts
[05:45] <Afker> you sell them to a wealthy ugly guy
[05:45] <H-junkie> they'll onli spread more STDs
[05:45] <Afker> however
[05:45] <Afker> if you marry your childhood sweetheart
[05:46] <Afker> then you won't do turtore (I think), nor have prostitutes
[05:46] <Elementasts> dang
[05:46] <Afker> in taht case, you can send female captives to th Gal-Burger to work
[05:46] <Afker> (it's a fast food place)
[05:46] <H-junkie> lol
[05:46] <H-junkie> kinda soft fer a mafiaso
[05:46] <Afker> one of the things I haven't done yet is to marry her
[05:47] <H-junkie> dun
[05:47] <H-junkie> u gotta be hard n tough to survive de underworld
[05:47] <Afker> also
[05:47] <Afker> like rance 5, each core character can have a "fullfilled" ending
[05:47] <H-junkie> oooh
[05:47] <Afker> if they get that ending, then when you replay the game, they'd be stronger
[05:49] <Afker> each character can learn one special attack through training
[05:49] <H-junkie> dats cool
[05:49] <Afker> some are "amplified damage", "evade up", etc
[05:49] <Afker> my favorite is one that looks like red hammer
[05:50] <H-junkie> wats dat do?
[05:50] <Afker> that's the one that does regular damage, except it'll never kill
[05:50] <H-junkie> ahhh
[05:50] <Afker> so enemy will at least have 1 life left
[05:50] <H-junkie> so u capture all ur enemies
[05:50] <Afker> so you can capture
[05:50] <Afker> yup
[05:50] <H-junkie> ur too kind to be a mafiaso lord afker
[05:51] <Afker> capture is good
[05:51] <Afker> that's how you get most of the core characters to join
[05:51] <H-junkie> in de game sense it it...use everything u can
[05:54] <Afker> I think I covered the basic gameplay
[05:55] <Afker> income/expenditures (protecting fee, salary for subordinates) is calculated at the 4th week of each month I think
[05:55] <H-junkie> at last...sumting ur not sure bout
[05:56] <Afker> either 4th or 1st
[05:56] <Afker> it's been a while
[05:56] <H-junkie> hehe