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I don't care about her gameplay. I like her visual design. I plan to use her in follow up teams whether she sucks or not.

My first 5 star was Bronya, but I've always wished I got Himeko in spite of that.
 

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Himeko is one of the top characters in Pure Fiction. Especially with fire weak waves.
 

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I can't tell any of these girls apart. They all look the same to me
Well, yes. They all have the same ridiculous overdesign in order to distract you from how similar all the models are in height, weight, shape. Black Swan wears a belt draped over her head.

But relative to the game, I like her design.
 

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Himeko is one of the top characters in Pure Fiction. Especially with fire weak waves.
Unfortunately I just never managed to really make her work, despite investing pretty heavily into her. At the end of the day, while she is good in those particular circumstances, I end up finding at least 3 other characters that are still better. This might partially be due to none of the PF buffs really synergizing with her kit, which is frankl all over the place with her damage being split somewhat evenly between her Ult, Skill and Followup attack, making it hard to fully support all of her damage. So far, without fault, anytime Himeko was doing well, Clara simply did better.
 

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Himeko is one of the top characters in Pure Fiction. Especially with fire weak waves.
Unfortunately I just never managed to really make her work, despite investing pretty heavily into her. At the end of the day, while she is good in those particular circumstances, I end up finding at least 3 other characters that are still better. This might partially be due to none of the PF buffs really synergizing with her kit, which is frankl all over the place with her damage being split somewhat evenly between her Ult, Skill and Followup attack, making it hard to fully support all of her damage. So far, without fault, anytime Himeko was doing well, Clara simply did better.
What are her stats if I may know?
 

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What are her stats if I may know?
Well, it's nothing insane, but shes at 3.1k ATK, 65 critrate, 135 critdamage. 4-set grand duke, 2-set salsotto, and she's E1 with S5 breakfast LC. She can hit decently hard, but due to her low base-speed and damage being spread across Skill, Ult and Fua, she's difficult to support. Obivously Sparkle enables her pretty hard with the action advance, but Clara, Xueyi and Ratio all do better with her buffs, and that's not even talking about proper carries like JL or Acheron.
 

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The fake cussing is really cringe.
"Son of a nice lady!"
Apparently it's the intent and not English localization being themselves.

I saw leaked footage of Jade in combat and she's got the coomer market locked down. I will be saving.
 

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The fake cussing is really cringe.
Idk, it grew on me. He's funny if nothing else.

But no way I will roll on him. He's basically a clown. Though I've heard some people say that all of this is on purpose. That he's a caricature of white people, especially Americans - pale white, swearing all the time, pointing guns at strangers, using other people's money to buy his expensive drinks.

That's a lot of money to spend on a joke if true though. Each character Mihoyo releases is an opportunity for millions of dollars. I'm sure some people will roll anyway, but I doubt it will be nearly as much as for real characters like Aventurine or Acheron, who get serious story treatment.
 

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That's a lot of money to spend on a joke if true though. Each character Mihoyo releases is an opportunity for millions of dollars. I'm sure some people will roll anyway, but I doubt it will be nearly as much as for real characters like Aventurine or Acheron, who get serious story treatment.
It's kind of common though to drop a character that few people would want once in a while. People already dropped a fuckton of money on Black Swan, Acheron and Robin, so getting a low-value character like Blade or Argenti every noew and then is not a bad thing, especially with 2 highly sought after characters coming up next. Plus, it allows people to actually pull on Fu Xuan instead, which is still the second best sustain in the game.

Design wise he sucks, but he's definitely a caricature american, even going full "I wanna talk to your supervisor" shit.
 

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Lost Fu Xuan 50/50 to Bronya. I'm not even that mad.
But now I have to think again what to get from the selector (only 7 more pulls until 300).
 

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Bronya is still a very strong support for hypercarries like Jingliu, and her E1 is very strong. Other than that, Himeko for Pure Fiction goes well with Herta (except this week), so shes' a decent choice if you don't have her yet as well.
 

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Bronya is still a very strong support for hypercarries like Jingliu, and her E1 is very strong. Other than that, Himeko for Pure Fiction goes well with Herta (except this week), so shes' a decent choice if you don't have her yet as well.
I already have Himeko, the only one I'm missing from the selector is Clara. So I guess I'm going for E1 Bronya. She seems to have very good Eidolons. And her E1 will help me more in the future than Clara.
 

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But now I have to think again what to get from the selector (only 7 more pulls until 300).
After losing several 50/50s, the only ones I don't have are Bailu, Welt and Yanqing. I was going to use it for Himeko, but I got her during my Acheron pulls iirc.

I might just use it to get another copy of Bronya.
 

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He is the worst 50/50 you can get.
Bailu exists. But yeah, both of them end up just giving 3 free pulls when you level them and that's about it.
At least Bailu can be useful if your only healer is Natasha. There was a time when people were happy getting her. She was the best healer until Luocha was released.
 

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At least Bailu can be useful if your only healer is Natasha. There was a time when people were happy getting her. She was the best healer until Luocha was released.
Well, depended a bit on the content. Bailu not having a dispel on her E made her pretty bad to use in some cases, I preferred Natasha over Bailu. Her value was to have a second Healer when there were only 2 in the entire game, and you needed one for each team for MoC. But that value was lost pretty qucikly and she's been shit ever since, whereas a character like Bronya didn't get powercrept until much later, and Himeko/Clara still retain their niches since no unit has swept in on them (yet. Jade is coming to dethrone Himeko).
 

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The new SU has a sweep that makes not having Acheron's fight skip technique bearable for people who missed her.

Jade looks good for follow up meta, but it sounds like they're going to try to make Firefly a new meta DPS.
 

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Jade looks good for follow up meta, but it sounds like they're going to try to make Firefly a new meta DPS.
Break is already viable, Firefly will elevate it to new heights though. The question will end up being about how usable Firefly will be without running Harmony TB alongside her. Weakness implant might make her playable in non-break comps, but she simply doesn't strike me as a unit that can get reasonable crit-scaling while also capping on her break effect for her Trace.

Overall it feels like every other character these days is a followup unit, which seems a bit... boring. It's been a while since we had a good character that just hits enemies really hard every turn. While Acheron qualifies to some extent, she's heavily built around her Ultimate, compared to previous character designs like Jing Liu, Blade or DHIL.
 

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I'm at the point of already running 2 strong teams that can clear everything. They have to give me a reason to invest in a new character.
 

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