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Tyrr

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I saw this earlier. Explain something to me:

She blows up the planet at the end. If her suit can do this, why didn't they do this before her entire race tried to suicide bomb itself to kill a bug?

And why put your entire race in the radius of an explosion to begin with? When the US nuked Hiroshima, we didn't put all our troops in the city first.

I know it's an anime, and you're not supposed to think to hard about it, but it's also sci fi and so I do. :M
 

WhiskeyWolf

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If her suit can do this, why didn't they do this before her entire race tried to suicide bomb itself to kill a bug?
It's not the suit, it's Firefly herself. HSR universe has various types of ascended individuals. Firefly is one of them, a mass produced super-soldier who possibly lasted the longest among millions of her brothers and sisters. A step away from death she transcends even the boundaries of a super-soldier.

Since SAM is one big reference to Kamen Rider her power is that of will, an unshakable resolve.

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I have to say that I'm tempted to roll for Firefly after all the marketing and in-game plot to force her down my throat.

Meanwhile in Korea...
 

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I have to say that I'm tempted to roll for Firefly after all the marketing and in-game plot to force her down my throat.
The Ruan Mei/Harmony TB/Firefly/Gallagher team will be a top-tier team for a very long time I think, so it'd definitely worth it if you have the few ingredients needed to make this team work.
What's the big deal about anime waifu #38452? I saw she had 8 trailers or something.
Tbf, Acheron and Robin also got a fuckton of trailers and promotions, so maybe this is just the route they're going for every first character each patch now? Robin even got her own goddamn spotify account.
 

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I tried ZZZ. On the plus side, I got Ellen, her weapons and Alex with my free rolls.

But I have to say the game's design seems fundamentally at odds with itself. It seems to want to be a Persona clone, but with real-time combat.

You're making an action game, but you hide the combat behind infinity menus, minigames and visual novel cutscenes. Odd.

Also, "The Cunning Hares"? Tell me that's not intentional. :M
 

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I don't really like the guy because he's a liberal and I find him unprofessional, but his "abuse" admission was just the typical liberal struggle session drama, and it's silly to take that seriously.

His sappy apology post:
https://archive.ph/VUbkU

Here's her original post:
https://archive.ph/PgQ8Z
1. Chris Niosi has obvious anger management problems and would snap and blow up at the smallest things. He would tell me “that’s just how I am” and that I needed to deal with it. I hated playing Smash with him because I would win most of the time and he would rage and scream at the top of his lungs. Near the end of our relationship I was fearful of his meltdowns every day.
5. I asked him to set boundaries with his ex and he battled me so much that I asked him to cut contact completely. He fought tooth and nail to keep talking to her despite how much this shit was damaging me and he even called ME the unreasonable one. She contacted him one day out of the blue, and he came to my office to take me out to lunch only to keep me hostage in front of my OFFICE BUILDING that I MUST give him my blessing to respond to her. He refused to take no as an answer and was shouting at me. I felt forced to say yes even though I truly did not want to or else he would continue making a scene in front of my workplace.
7. He once physically manhandled me in front of my friends at a get-together because I wanted to get a drink. I stood up and he forcefully pushed me back down and scolded me in full view of my friends. I was extremely embarrassed.
9. Worst of all, Chris Niosi was planning to sexually take advantage of me when I was very intoxicated on my birthday last year. He even tried to tell a friend that he had implied permission from me when confronted about it (which is absolutely not true). That only gave me confirmation he knew exactly what he was doing. Thankfully I was aware enough at the time to tell him to back off, but it disturbs me to this day that he saw me being drunk on my birthday as an “opportunity.”
Chris Niosi is a bad person and he knows it. He would tell me he was just simply oblivious to all his wrong-doings but I refuse to believe it. He doesn’t get to claim ignorance and abuse women. Everything was intentional. I decided I had enough and moved on and he tried every trick in the book to manipulate me into staying. After I broke up with him he couldn’t even respect me enough to give me distance. He was aggressive about taking me out to dinner and asked me out at least 3 times in the week after I dumped him.
He needs to come clean about all the horrible things he has done.
So he did, and her response:
https://web.archive.org/web/2019072...zeroincorporated-kirbopher-the-following-is-a
Very, very weak. If you really want to go there I will remind you that on June 11th, 2018, after Sony’s E3 conference, I was drunk and you wanted to have sex. We attempted and I decided that drunk sex wasn’t for me and said that I didn’t wish to try that again. That was a rule we established: drunk sex is off the table. And yet, on my birthday later that year you saw how intoxicated I was and thought you could try it anyway. Miscommunication? No, I don’t think so.
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Having sex with your drunk girlfriend is abuse, bigot. Your apology is an admission and now you can never work again.
 

Rean

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I try to sexually abuse all friends, colleagues and family. Par for the course, really.
Those fags should hire me for VA, I'd never admit to wrongdoing.
 

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I started playing this 2 weeks ago. Combat is bleh, definitely made for mobile, but I am finding myself enjoying the writing.

I am at Penacony and did the Lesley Dean and Coconas quests and found them to both be superb in terms of writing, even if its just a bunch of exposition.
I miss quests like these in western rpgs, quests that come from the heart, one about unfulfilled dreams, the other about closure and letting go. Good stuff despite its limitations.

I am also enjoying the puzzles and minigames (So many minigames) a whole lot, believe the strength of this game is to be found there, questing and doing minigames. Its just good quality stuff.

I am also enjoying the music, even a tone deaf guy like myself can find some of the tunes in this game just enjoyable.

What surprises me the most, besides the sheer quantity of the content, is how the quality of it seems to go up with newer releases, tells you theres a very passionate team behind this gacha game.

Ill probably play until I run out of content, then put it away, chasing the meta seems to be a retarded, joyless endeavor.
 

WhiskeyWolf

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Lesley Dean
Lesley Dean's side-quest is indeed memorable, as is the side-quest about the woman that sealed her memories in an attempt to break away from what she had done in the past.

Penacony is supposed to be this almost paradise, but once you dive deeper you discover how some elements - not all of them - are utterly fucked up.
 

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Penacony is just a great setting to explore, particularly because of the narrative possibilities it gives you, able to directly engage with peoples feelings and past , but I also find the aesthetics very appealing. I think its their most mature setting, tackling on adult themes you dont really see in other video games.

I am also looking forward to a visit in the future to the IPC, theyll probably be doing cyberpunk with them, and its likely that itl be better cyberpunk than whatever cdpk gave us.
 

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I miss quests like these in western rpgs, quests that come from the heart, one about unfulfilled dreams, the other about closure and letting go. Good stuff despite its limitations.
This in particular I always found very surprising. Sidequests are such a great way to let individual writers or developers explore what they are truly passionate about. Of course everyone puts their hands together for the big Main Story, but I still remember many side quests much more fondly than main quests from dozens of games, simply because they were executed well, despite the much smaller scope. To me this is a perfect breeding ground to discover talent, and yet many studios these days require side-quest design to tow the line just as much as the main narrative does. It ultimately all ends up feeling same~y instead, which is pretty disappointing.
 

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These Chinese man. If you play their games you better get used to their "wukong trickster" style humor.

The new world questline offers you a chance to get off that world. You take it and they throw you out to login screen. You login and the main quest continues as if nothing happened.
 

Lhynn

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I cant decide if the storytelling is good or bad. I suppose its both, and theres more bad than good.

After Cocona and Lesley Deans quest I got stuck like 5 hours playing a twink with some of the worst dialogue imaginable, I have to wonder why his story wasnt left as a sidequest, since it really did very little to advance the plot and was wholly unnecessary.

Now on amphoreus its like the writing is actively trying to piss me off at one point, and then win me over at another. The sequence with the Stellaron Hunters is easily the best part of the patch, and it makes me wonder why we cant see them and other good characters more often, but then I remember, they have new toys to sell.

Also, Penacony and Amphoreus or whatever have felt very... cheap? Constant fade to blacks, very few interesting animations and drawings.
 

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It definitely feels like the quality of the story-telling could very easily be improved if they had more CG stills for some of the black-screens. Some of the scenes make sense to have this black-screen, if they're just about focusing on an audio component or the character literally closes its eyes. But when the screen fades to black and tries to evoke a picture with the text, they might as well just fucking draw the damn thing.

Character animations are very barebones of course, especially the facial animations, and the long pauses between sentences or a character "leaving the stage" are still pretty weird. It's a shame, really, because the greco-roman aesthetic and storyline of Amphoreus has me more intrigued than any other story in the game that came before it. Here's to hoping they'll listen to some of that feedback and try to elevate their presentation of the story a little.

When comparing it to a game like Limbus Company that has a much lower budget and barely 45 people working on it, that's a game that manages to do a lot more with a lot less.
 

itsme

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Someones actually reading all the shit in this game? Like omg. Mihoyos gachas are very hard structured to a point it feels like theyve been made by an AI. The word diarrhea is horrendous.
 
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I am considering checking this game out. I hope the moment to moment experience is more enjoyable than Genshin, which was mediocre, but double checking the pages and last few posts does not inspire confidence.
 

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it's chinese game. chinese GACHA game. they start new and shiny and after few hours turn into sweatshop you just log in because of inertia and working your ass.

in japanese gachas i tried you usually do 3-4 daily battles after finishing avaialble story and can forget about it until next day.
in ching-chong - dozen of battles across dozen of tags, dozen of tabs to collect some small daily shit, log in 2-3 times every day to not waste stamina or you will fall behind.
 

itsme

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Translation is part of the problem. Chinese language is rather poetic, full of metaphores and hard to translate in general. This adds to the fact that translation to languages other than English is probably done based on English translation. All this results in some unending gibberish spiced with 'witty' teenage phrases from american English.

'Huh?'
'Huh?'
'Huh?'
'Huh?'
'Huh?'
'Huh?'
 

Tyrr

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I dropped this one some time ago.
I thought the story was mediocre and didn't got better over time. But the worst was the extreme power creep of new characters to keep up with the increasing HP-bloat of the enemies.
 
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This adds to the fact that translation to languages other than English is probably done based on English translation.
wishful thinking.
i collided with some official nintendo stuff. it was japanese, translated into french, probably translated into german, translated into english, i had to proofread and translate into italian. of course it made no fucking sense and i realized there had been all those passages only because the previous translators were dumb enough to use strictly idiomatic expressions and literally translate those already present. it's a horror shitshow you don't want to be part of.
 

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I hope the moment to moment experience is more enjoyable than Genshin
Just play wuthering waves at this point. Its so much better than anything these fuckers are putting out in any of their games.
The storytelling starts out pretty bland, but it gets better and better with every patch, so everything beyond 1.0 is pretty decent, you can tell these people that are still figuring out but i have been liking what they have been giving us in the past 6 months. And their 2.0 was just probably the best you can find in the gacha space.

I am on the brink of quitting HSR, the storytelling has taken a nosedive in amphoreus, which has a single standout, Gnaeus, a gladiator that joins your team for a spell. His voice acting was top notch and his lines were pretty good, in fact theres a line I wish I should extract because of how damn good it was delivered.
 

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