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Your way seems to include a lot of arbitrary distinctions.
Your way seems to include a lot of arbitrary distinctions.
from bs4 import BeautifulSoup
import re
import urllib2
poll = BeautifulSoup(urllib2.urlopen("http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/how-would-you-rate-pillars-of-eternity.98108/poll/results"))
results = [result.find(class_="count").string for result in poll.find_all(class_="pollResult")]
total_score = 0.0
total_count = 0.0
for i in range(10):
score = 10 - i
count = int(re.findall("\d+", results[i])[0])
total_score += score*count
total_count += count
average = total_score / total_count
print average
Your way seems to include a lot of arbitrary distinctions.
Uh, you mean your way does?
The game is a 10 if you compare it with all other games, obviously.
I'd say the game is a 10 compared to recent RPGs as well. 99% of RPGs released since the 90s are shit.
I'd probably say PoE is a 10 compared to all RPGs that have ever been made. Although people who don't like RTwP or only like roguelikes or JRPGs or similar might disagree.
If BG2 and Torment are the only points of reference (as you suggest), and BG2 is a 1 and Torment a 10 I'd probably say PoE is a 5.
Everybody can rate however s/he wants to rate. I tried to come up with discriptions that are somewhat related to the numbers, but if you think that the numbers and te discriptions do not match, you can just look at the numbers.Your way seems to include a lot of arbitrary distinctions.
Uh, you mean your way does?
The game is a 10 if you compare it with all other games, obviously.
I'd say the game is a 10 compared to recent RPGs as well. 99% of RPGs released since the 90s are shit.
I'd probably say PoE is a 10 compared to all RPGs that have ever been made. Although people who don't like RTwP or only like roguelikes or JRPGs or similar might disagree.
If BG2 and Torment are the only points of reference (as you suggest), and BG2 is a 1 and Torment a 10 I'd probably say PoE is a 5.
My way was to read the descriptions next to the numbers and choose the corresponding number which described the game. Doesn't seem that arbitrary to me. I'd go so far as to say that was the way J_C intended us to score the game.
Is arriving at an average result the sole purpose of a poll?That is pretty fucking arbitrary, if you choose a number according to an arbitrary sentence then the average result means nothing.
Yes, because this poll is all about you...Your way seems to include a lot of arbitrary distinctions.
Uh, you mean your way does?
The game is a 10 if you compare it with all other games, obviously.
I'd say the game is a 10 compared to recent RPGs as well. 99% of RPGs released since the 90s are shit.
I'd probably say PoE is a 10 compared to all RPGs that have ever been made. Although people who don't like RTwP or only like roguelikes or JRPGs or similar might disagree.
If BG2 and Torment are the only points of reference (as you suggest), and BG2 is a 1 and Torment a 10 I'd probably say PoE is a 5.
My way was to read the descriptions next to the numbers and choose the corresponding number which described the game. Doesn't seem that arbitrary to me. I'd go so far as to say that was the way J_C intended us to score the game.
Is arriving at an average result the sole purpose of a poll?That is pretty fucking arbitrary, if you choose a number according to an arbitrary sentence then the average result means nothing.
You're making assumptions again.If ..., then it would be impossible to draw any useful conclusion from the collected results of the poll.
You're making assumptions again.If ..., then it would be impossible to draw any useful conclusion from the collected results of the poll.
Better than just scoring it against whatever RPG's ArchAngel has played in the last ten years. I don't mind scoring a game versus other games. I just think his method of it just being RPG's he has played in the last ten years is bullshit. Feel free to point out where I put forwards J_Cs poll as the optimal method for scoring games.In any case, scoring with arbitrary sentences as Hatred suggests is a very lousy way of scoring a game.
There is no perfect or unison scoring system and anyone that says otherwise is a liar. Every fucking living person that gives a score to any entertainment piece of anything is doing it subjectively using completely personal and unique scoring system. Even if you write 100 sentences to explain each number on scale from 1 to 10 everyone will still score using their own life experiences and preferences. This is why a jury is made of 20+ people and not one.Better than just scoring it against whatever RPG's ArchAngel has played in the last ten years. I don't mind scoring a game versus other games. I just think his method of it just being RPG's he has played in the last ten years is bullshit. Feel free to point out where I put forwards J_Cs poll as the optimal method for scoring games.In any case, scoring with arbitrary sentences as Hatred suggests is a very lousy way of scoring a game.
You do be making assumptions again.
I actually agree with you on the points you have made as quoted above. I just thought your rule of "only RPG's in the last 10 years" was super personal and arbitrary. I'm disinclined towards any kind of system which will give PoE a pass since I personally think it is rubbish. I also realise its just my opinion that its rubbish clearly. The critical and financial success it has achieved is pretty easy to see.There is no perfect or unison scoring system and anyone that says otherwise is a liar. Every fucking living person that gives a score to any entertainment piece of anything is doing it subjectively using completely personal and unique scoring system. Even if you write 100 sentences to explain each number on scale from 1 to 10 everyone will still score using their own life experiences and preferences. This is why a jury is made of 20+ people and not one.Better than just scoring it against whatever RPG's ArchAngel has played in the last ten years. I don't mind scoring a game versus other games. I just think his method of it just being RPG's he has played in the last ten years is bullshit. Feel free to point out where I put forwards J_Cs poll as the optimal method for scoring games.In any case, scoring with arbitrary sentences as Hatred suggests is a very lousy way of scoring a game.
You do be making assumptions again.
This is why I give more relevance to user scores on metacritic (over critic scores as they are only a few) or Steam scores as they come from a larger pool of people.
I already did change it from a 9 to a 10 though.Ahem.
There have been claims that polls such as these are tainted by what's known as a "honeymoon period".
With that in mind, I encourage people to change their vote in this poll if they feel that's justified.
i like the music a lot, although at times it gives me some very suspicious deja-vus
Have you tried switching to Mage? By then it can get pretty hilarious, especially with the right spells memorizedIDK, the mob crawl after Sigil was pretty bad.