Game News Inon Zur composes for Fallout 3

[Hory]

Um, it is pretty much the gaming equivalent of Saving Private Ryan, as far as the average buyer is concerned.

 

[Suchy]

Main theme was ok for the title screen. I don't wanna hear it anywhere else in the game.
Megaton - I have to say it does catch the atmosphere. Reminded me of Redding for some reason.
Into the Wasteland - meh... Genereic fantasy or generic space opera. But not Fallout. Wasteland is no place for melodic violins. Right after listening to this one I played Morgan's "Desert Wind" and it's sooooo much better. Eh, I can do better than that (though I didn't aim to sound Fallouty at all)...

I guess music replacement mods will pop up pretty fast.

 

[hiver]

Im pretty sure Zur didnt even heard the originals, though i didnt check that.

 

[Hory]

Eh, I can do better than that (though I didn't aim to sound Fallouty at all)...

Sounds like Thom Brennan's works. Definitely worth checking them out if you're into this thing.

 

[Suchy]

Eh, I can do better than that (though I didn't aim to sound Fallouty at all)...

Sounds like Thom Brennan's works. Definitely worth checking them out if you're into this thing.

Hey, thanks. Didn't know the name, but I'm listening to him right now and damn, I like it
Lately I was pretty addicted to Robert Rich and Brian Lustmord. Brennan does the same genre, but sounds a bit more chilled out. Rich and Lustmord are darker and more eerie, I recommend the "Stalker" album they did together under the influence of Tarkovsky's movie. And it also really fits Fallout.

 

[Hory]

Brennan's older works are a bit more varied. I prefer them because they're more complex, but the newer ones are more in the style of your Stratosphere.

I've downloaded the Stalker album for a quick listen. It's good, but I don't know if it's the kind of music you can listen to on a regular basis . Dark Ambient music is great for game soundtracks tho.

 

[denizsi]

Main title is almost a bad Conan The Barbarian rip off. Intro is was good though.

Second track sounds like a theme from an "old US town in the rocks" scene of a shitty B-movie.

Interestingly, the third track has a similar vibe to some of the Daggerfall tracks.

 

[DefJam101]

They aren't bad by any means.... It's your typical standard videogame fair.

The Main Screen on started off alright but descended into the typical E.S. Posthumus "ut2004 menu" shit. It's not bad or anything, it just doesn't fit the game......




Of course, none of them fit the atmosphere very well.

 

[flushfire]

the general opinion seems to be the main theme fits an FPS or epic scale RTS rather than fallout. i thought it was from Bioshock when i listened to it. the other two aren't bad, into the wasteland is well received at NMA when i read the comments there. the problem is they don't sound very ambient and feels overly done esp. megaton which sounds like the composer wanted to mix every possible wild west sound in there.

 

[Nutcracker]

Side note, did anyone else misread this:

as 'Wall Rapers'?

Gotta be an Easter Egg.

 

[Keldorn]

Btw. anyone knows some good pieces by Zur worth cheking out?

Icewind Dale 2.

IWD2 had great music... for the generic, epic hi-fantasy D&D realm.

But shouldn't Fallout 3 respect the roots and traditions of Fallout 1&2, WRT the game and music ?

I mean, the wastelands... barren and sparse, devastated and primitive, spooky and suspenseful, nihilistic and neutral.

The music should reflect that atmospheric standard. It should be ambient, dissonant, rubato and minimalist. Full of whole rests and atonal half notes (tied to quarter notes in 5/4 time)... Largo.


Well, I guess to the extent they are changing the Fallout RPG foundation, is the extent to which they will change the nature of the accompanying music...

 

[Keldorn]

the general opinion seems to be the main theme fits an FPS or epic scale RTS rather than fallout. i thought it was from Bioshock when i listened to it. the other two aren't bad, into the wasteland is well received at NMA when i read the comments there. the problem is they don't sound very ambient and feels overly done esp. megaton which sounds like the composer wanted to mix every possible wild west sound in there.

IOW, over-the-top, dumbed-down bullshit for masses of immature, shallow minds locked into the FPS eye candy clickfest...

 

[Noceur]

Both the Megaton and Into the Wasteland tracks are too busy to fit the theme. Into the Wasteland had probably been better suited as the music for Megaton, then even more ambient ones outside of towns.

Also, there's way too much happening in the higher frequences (like strings and such).

 

[hiver]

I think most of the positive comments are just first subjective impressions, probably from people that expected something even worse or those who have no taste at all.
Or those that like it for the Oblivion feel.

Listening to this for a whole game would be nothing than a torture.
I thought they will keep Inkspots for the main or opening theme... or atleast some instrumental version.

I really dont see what megaton track has to do with that town at all. Same as the wasteland theme... where is the background haunting music coming on and off,raising and falling almost to silence, the sounds of wasteland itself, creaks and groans of rubble and rusted metal under the heat of the sun or low temperature of the night... small sounds of nature or
jackals vultures and insects, weird clickings, ghost sounds...
The open spaces ...

There is just those bloated, pompous cheap orchestral constructions blasitng away changing between Star wars themes or crappy LoTR movie tunes of failed epicness.

instead of making you feel it yourself they are blasting away like Opera singer shouting "OH im sad! im so saad! its terrible here! Wastellaaaaand! Look its terrible oh!"

There is a small interview with Zur over at the bethblog.

http://bethblog.com/index.php/2008/05/08/bethblog-interviews-inon-zur/#more-615

 

[thesheeep]

"OH im sad! im so saad! its terrible here! Wastellaaaaand! Look its terrible oh!"

lol. Almost sigworthy

Anyway... my opinion on this is -indeed- that it could have been worse.
We already know that what Bethsoft is doing with Fallout 3 won't really fit with Fallout 1 or 2. So wouldn't music that would work with Fallout 1 and 2 not work with Fallout 3?

I already resigned to the fact that Fallout 3 will not be the Fallout I know and love, but I still hope that it will be a good game, nonetheless. A small hope since the vha***gz**kvz that was Oblivion, but still...
And for a good game, I want music that fits to it and not to another game
But I agree that orchestral soundtracks are far away from anything that has to do with wastelands...

 

[Suchy]

So Inon Zur is behind the music for Fallout Tactics. I've never played it, since it wasn't RPG... What was the soundtrack in comparison to original Fallout? Was it similiar or fitting the atmosphere? If so, maybe other tracks in FO3 are actually somehwat better...?

 

[Gnidrologist]

As far as i remember playing myself FoT, it's background music was mutch closer to that of the MM's work. If my memory serves me well, there were even some tracks or samples from the original Fallout's ost.
All in all, it was quite fallouty and didn't strike me as dramatic ''oh i'm so sad'' lol piece like these samples.

 

[Elhoim]

You understand nothing. They are dramatic ''oh i'm so sad'' because your daddy went away. That's why it totally fits the game.

 

[hiver]

Well, im going to spend all of my time during tutorial shooting him in the groin with the BB gun. :twisted:
I will!

Ill bet there will be tons of "Kill your daddy in most imaginative way" youtube movies.

 

[Suchy]

You wish. Daddy will be unkillable.
Or maaaybe, just maybe, he'll go unconcious for a moment.

 

[hiver]

I know, but i will still do it.

 

[abstract]

They should have got John Murphy to do the soundtrack.

 

[roshan]

Inon Zur sucks. His work on Icewind Dale 2 was nothing like that of the original.

What Id love to see for the soundtrack of a true Fallout game would be an extemely depressive, ambient black metal. I listened to a black metal band from the Pakistani-Afghan border recently called Taarma, and couldnt stop thinking of Fallout in several of the tracks.

 

[Gnidrologist]

No.

 

[Jedi_Learner]

Where can I download the tracks? I don't want to push buttons on a website, and my 5.6k modem doesn't either.

Here?