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Jed

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Grifman said:
You know, I've never understood someone that takes pleasure in someone else's misfortunes. Whether you like IP or not, they have done nothing to you. Taking joy in other's misfortune is just piss poor, and says more about you than you'd like to be known, frankly.
What the fuck are you talking about Grif? Some chump-ass company that's outlived it's relevance by three years goes down the crapper before they can finish wringing the dignity out of the best game francise ever conceved--you bet your sorry ass I'm rolling in the schadenfreude!
 

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Seven9 said:
I wonder whose fault Iplay's situation is. Fargo knew that going to Titus for financing would cost him in the long run and yet he still did it. Then Titus superficially lowers Iplay stock to help sink it, and now Titus is stuck with the sinking ship and a whole in its wallet. This is poetic justice.

Fargo had the company up at a value for 200 Million, ready for sale when he was fired. Caen in all his brilliance fired him and systematically brought the company's value down to less than 10 million with 23 million in debt. If anyone's to blame, it'd be the Caen brothers. Fargo had things well under way for IPLY before any of that in retrospect.
 

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Grifman, first of all you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

None of us are feeling particularly happy that our developer friends at IPLY are getting shoved around like goods in a marketplace as they are reshuffled from one canceled project to another just because top brass (or should I say tin?) can't make up their minds on what's best for the company and make decisions which dig Interplay in a deeper hole than it already is in.

I also don't feel any particular need to respect the Caen brothers for all of their disasterous decisions or sympathize with them after what they've done to talented people like JE Sawyer and everybody else who's worked on Jefferson and Van Buren.

Besides, we're having a little moment of schadenfreude here towards a company which deliberately misleads the fans of its franchises, insults them in published interviews, refuses to take suggestions, and cheats them.
 

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Grifman said:
chrisbeddoes said:
Grifman said:
Interplay is in a finanicial death spiral.
Grifman


Most excellent news.

If they are bunkrupt then the Fallout license could be sold cheap.

I pity their developers but their managers lost touch with their customers.

You know, I've never understood someone that takes pleasure in someone else's misfortunes. Whether you like IP or not, they have done nothing to you. Taking joy in other's misfortune is just piss poor, and says more about you than you'd like to be known, frankly.

Grifman


I do not give a damn about Interplay.

But if they bankrupt Troika might get the fallout license.

To be more frank i really hope that IP tanks so that there is a chance that Troika might get the license.

And yes they have done something wrong to me personally.
I have spent more than 1000 hours playing the fallouts and they have destroyed that license.

Finally IP is not a person but a company.
If i had to pity someone that would be the American taxpayers that will have to pay IP debts after IP bancraps.

Or should i pity those people that will lose their jobs ?

So many have lost them and are losing them all the time .Why should i pity about those particular jobs.

I do not understand ?

Is it not capitalism way for the powerful and smart to grow and for the weak ,mindless and arrogant to break ?

What should we have here communism ?

IP has really fooked up.

They have treated their customers with contempt even denying that they exist and even ridiculing them.


Now it is time for them to pay giving an example to the industry that corporation that do not listen to their customers do not deserve to exist.

I do not see a problem with that at all.
My 2 cents.
 

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Briosafreak said:
Voss: they can`t sell it, since it`s a division, it has no autonomous legal personality. And that`s the tragedy...

Ah well.

Could sell the fallout license out from under them though.

I'm not sure about the legal chicanery here, but couple they incorporate them (or something, the way Shiny was an incorporated entity) as an autonomous unit, and then sell them? Or are there limits to the turn around on that sort of thing?
 

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Was it really at 200 million before fargo got axed? I don't know, but that number seems a little high? Are you sure Ex?
 

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Grifman said:
You know, I've never understood someone that takes pleasure in someone else's misfortunes. Whether you like IP or not, they have done nothing to you. Taking joy in other's misfortune is just piss poor, and says more about you than you'd like to be known, frankly.

I was pretty stoked when Western Communism failed, too. Guess I should feel guilty about that.
 

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Seven9 said:
Was it really at 200 million before fargo got axed? I don't know, but that number seems a little high? Are you sure Ex?

I was wondering that myself as well. I thought Fargo was held responisble (wheter that was right or wrong) for the decline after the hights of Interplay in the early 90's. Interplay was already going badly when Fargo got axed iirc.
 

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Rayt said:
Seven9 said:
Was it really at 200 million before fargo got axed? I don't know, but that number seems a little high? Are you sure Ex?

I was wondering that myself as well. I thought Fargo was held responisble (wheter that was right or wrong) for the decline after the hights of Interplay in the early 90's. Interplay was already going badly when Fargo got axed iirc.

IIRC, they were appraised at 100 million not too far back. It'll be a shame if they go. I love BIS but I loathe the mismanagement from higher up.
 

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Rayt said:
Seven9 said:
Was it really at 200 million before fargo got axed? I don't know, but that number seems a little high? Are you sure Ex?

I was wondering that myself as well. I thought Fargo was held responisble (wheter that was right or wrong) for the decline after the hights of Interplay in the early 90's. Interplay was already going badly when Fargo got axed iirc.

It wasn't going as badly.. It was declining, but it dropped in to free fall when Titus bought up the controlling shares and elected Herve Caen the president. Before that, though, Titus had 31% of the shares, so they did have quite a bit of control of the company's decisions.
 

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FUCK TITUS and FUCK CAEN. I hope this leaves a hole burning in upper managements ass. This will teach the shitheads to fuck with us anyway.
 

Volourn

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Some people here have too much drama invested into a silly game company. :roll:
 

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Major_Blackhart said:
FUCK TITUS and FUCK CAEN. I hope this leaves a hole burning in upper managements ass. This will teach the shitheads to fuck with us anyway.

I would just like to add Disney, Walmart, Microsoft, News Corp, Home Depot, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Vivendi, and I guess I can go on for quite sometime...
 

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triCritical said:
I would just like to add Disney, Walmart, Microsoft, News Corp, Home Depot, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Vivendi, and I guess I can go on for quite sometime...

::adds some Bioware for good measure::

::sprays a large, black "V" on the wall::

::leaves before the Good Manners police arrives::
 

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triCritical said:
I would just like to add Disney
Check.
I guess I didn't live in the U.S. long enough to learn about the evils of Sam Walton's empire. In fact, I went to a local Wal*Mart every week.
Microsoft
Cliche.
News Corp
Who?
Home Depot
See Wal*Mart response above.
Lockheed Martin, Boeing
Their planes suck, but what does that have to do with anything?
Check. Double check.
 

Rosh

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Sammael said:
I guess I didn't live in the U.S. long enough to learn about the evils of Sam Walton's empire. In fact, I went to a local Wal*Mart every week.

I see someone has been living under a rock.
 

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Sammael said:
Rosh said:
I see someone has been living under a rock.
I lived in Tennessee for three years (until June 2000), for crying out loud. What did I miss?

Wal-Mart has a reputation of trying to make companies bow down to their will in order to get the cheapest prices they can. Even if it's only a couple of cents. I worked at a Wal-Mart for almost a year and, while I didn't get to see alot of the internal workings, I heard alot about them. If you ever go into a Wal-Mart and not see the game or cd you want, then it's because the company making said product didn't bow down to the almighty Wally World and instead gave them the finger.
 

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Briosafreak said:
Otaku_Hanzo said:
Role-Player said:
::sprays a large, black "V" on the wall::

Decent mini-series for it's time. Wouldn't mind seeing a remake with better effects though. :)

And more production values, and a better story, and new actors :)

Yep. One of the things that i disliked was the "antiqueness" of it, the colouring made it look like from last century. Well, it is from last century :wink: but Watchmen also was and was better in that department. One other thing i couldn't stand - it was cramped, everything was smaller than it should be.

Better story? Only if they replace V with Rorscharch and title the series "R for Revenge" :wink: :lol:
 

Otaku_Hanzo

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Briosafreak said:
Otaku_Hanzo said:
Role-Player said:
::sprays a large, black "V" on the wall::

Decent mini-series for it's time. Wouldn't mind seeing a remake with better effects though. :)

And more production values, and a better story, and new actors :)

There was no problem with the story. Great story. As for acting, it wasn't terrible, especially considering it was made for tv and not a Hollywood production. It wasn't the best either, mind you, but there was some good acting in it. Micheal Ironside as Ham was the best, and my fave character to boot. And better effects usually means a bigger production value. ;)
 

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