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Incline Ion Fury (formerly Ion Maiden) - Build Engine powered FPS by Duke Nukem 3D mappers

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by tormund, Nov 12, 2015.

  1. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    I disagree with a bunch of things to a varying degree, but when it comes to this:

    We must be playing different games. The boss fights in this game are completely pathetic, there's not a single one yet that I wouldn't beat by just running in circles around the boss and unloading max crossbow autofire while they can't even attack back. Except the dropship, I guess, but that one instead had a Half-Life 2 style 'crate o' infinite ammo' which was just as bad.

    Build engine games never had particularly good boss fights anyway, but I'll take cerberus or the werewolf cultists from Blood any day over this.
     
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  2. Unkillable Cat Prestigious Gentleman LEST WE FORGET Patron

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    Rated "Agree" for this bit, as the only Build-engine boss fight that actually presented a challenge is the cheesy fight with the Alien Queen in the Plutonium Pak-episode of Duke Nukem 3D.

    But hey! At least the Build-engine bosses tried to be bosses, anyone remember the final boss in Blood 2? Aim minigun, unload, win game.
     
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  3. Carls Barkley Safav Hamon The Real Fanboy

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    You can count the number of good FPS bosses on one hand.
     
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  4. HansDampf Prophet

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    Disagree on the final boss on Maximum Fury. A giant arena with lots of hitscanners, pure chaos, almost no cover, and silent enemies that can kill you in one second. As mentioned, the flying terminators are the worst offenders, often hiding in corners (wouldn't be surprised if it's a pathfinding issue), hard to see, and silently sending a deadly barrage of homing missiles your way. They are a high priority target and should have been made big, loud and flashy. I died too many times during this fight without knowing what even happened. Things seem to go smoothly and suddenly I'm dead. The best strategy for me - other than cheesing it from the air ducts - was to stay on the outer ring, kill everything in my path, and hope to spot the terminators before they attack me. Then clean up the rest below with bowling bombs. Repeat.

    Otherwise it's mainly the first two episodes that I found a bit tiresome due to large open areas. The Loverboy is the most useful tool there. Problem is its secondary mode is not 100% reliable. Sometimes it won't get a lock, even over short distances. I'm not sure if there even is a distance cap. It feels janky. And I don't like the concept of it anyway. The office building and later the countryside episode with the mansion, garden and cemetery are my favorite parts of the game. They may not look as impressive as the first few levels, but the smaller spaces are more fun to fight in. And there are still lots of details, fake lighting effects, destructables, sunset and night skyboxes. Good variety. Most of the weapons remain useful, even the Clusterpuck. Just one in red mode can clear a room. The shotgun is still the worst, though. I mostly use it to clean up spiders and zombies. The Chaingun is also a bit weak for my taste, satisfying only in combination with Super Damage. And the bow is ... weird. Considering how powerful it is with its penetrating bolts it sounds and feels deceptively weak, like a cheap plastic toy. It's a problem with some of the other weapons too.

    I tried to find more secrets this time. While many of them are cleverly hidden and sometimes satisfying to figure out, a few are either too cryptic or total bs. Like, go through this solid looking wall with no indication that you can to find one piece of SMG ammo. Thanks. I doubt anyone will find everything without a walkthrough. But you can always go back and dissect empty maps, if you really want to. Sometimes you have to progress further into the level to open a path back to a previous section. Points of no return are clearly marked. Just be careful re-entering Heskel's House of Horrors. There is currently a bug that could reset that level. And worse, if you then turn around and go back to Knee Deep again it will reset that map as well and lock the door.

    Still a nice game overall. Feels like a genuine passion project.
     
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  5. Black Plague Learned

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    The ion bow's secondary mode is selective fire. You can shoot anything between one to five shots depending on how long you keep the button pressed. So far I haven't seen anyone use it like that except accidentally.

    Thock-Thock-Thock-Thock-Thock - five shots
    Thock-Thock - two shots

    Got that?
     
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  7. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    this game sure loves fucking sewer levels i swear
     
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  8. Lyric Suite Converting to Islam

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    But what about warehouses?
     
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  9. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    plenty of those too
     
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  10. TheHeroOfTime Arcane

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    So it will be a nude mod for shelly or not?
     
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  11. Zombra An iron rock in the river of blood and evil Patron

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  12. Goi~Yaas~Dinn Savant

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    Tommy Lee Jones would support a nude mod, you know.
     
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  13. otsego Arbiter

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    I gotta echo what some posters have said here: playing on max difficult is the only way to play this.

    I beat it on ultra violence and went back to the start on max fury and it's a totally different game. Gittin Gud has also helped; I am no longer creeping corner but rather running and gunning and using all weapons. And I'm basically at full ammo and armor count unlike on my first tries where I was struggling to keep the pistol full. It is so much more fun.

    I do anticipate extreme bullshit in certain areas where they threw it on UV... but I digress.

    Shitty boss battles but excellent game.
     
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  14. Curratum Cipher

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    Your expectations of extreme bullshit will be outperformed multiple times. The AI is completely abhorrent on max diff. The big flier rocketeers will shove their ass in the darkest, most distant corner of the map and then proceed to silently fire their homing missiles at you from absurd ranges. I'm talking about literally outside of rendering distance due to engine shading.
     
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  15. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Codex 2014
    https://steamcommunity.com/games/562860/announcements/detail/1612774139441121875

     
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  16. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    Buddha be praised, I finally finished this. What a slog it turned out to be.

    Definitely not something I'll be playing again, and whoever claims that it's any close to the classic build engine games is delusional or hasn't played them for 20 years. You ask me, it's barely just competent.

    My two biggest gripes with it are probably that:

    1. It's utterly devoid of any character or flare. The enemies are generic and forgettable. The guns are generic and forgettable barring the double fire uzis, which might just be the only weapon that is actually fun (ok the grenade launcher is too but it's also just a generic grenade launcher). The levels are generic and forgettable no matter how big and expansive or whatever they may be.
    2. It doesn't add anything of worth to the build engine formula apart from mostly pointless gimmicks (look at muh voxels and headshots) and downright bizarre annoyances (RELOADING) while at the same time actually stripping it of stuff (inventory).

    Plenty of other crap that I thought was bad too, but which I can't be bothered to mention.

    Actually one more thing to mention - the final bossfight was like a more tardo version of Doom 2's Icon of Sin.
     
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  17. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    The boss fight was the quintessence of a slog. But until then I found the game to be quite brilliant. Still not as good as Blood, but better than Duke 3D.
     
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  18. Durandal Arcane

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    Difficulty-wise Ion Fury may be more fair than something like Blood being a kick in the balls in the form of a videogame, but that bullshit also makes me prefer Blood over Ion Fury by a hundred miles because in order to persevere in Blood I have to make the absolute most out of every single item, mechanic, and weapon at my disposal. Blood may be incredibly bullshit with its hitscanners that you basically have to memorize your path through a level, but creating and executing that route felt godly satisfying (when you aren't being a savescumming casual). The boundaries the difficulty pushed you towards, the many levels which would fuck you over in many different ways, and the many options you were given to tackle them all facilitated a sense of creativity in the player.

    Meanwhile in Ion Fury, from start to finish it's nothing but popamoling around corners and scoring headshots with the Ion Bow or Shotgun or Revolver, throwing bombs around corners to easily kill enemies, and stunlocking heavy enemies with the minigun. Scoring headshots and using explosives for enemies around corners is already the most optimal way to play, and the game is too tame difficulty-wise to force you on a regular basis to vary up your playstyle for the sake of survival. It doesn't help that all the items, weapons, and power-ups in Ion Fury are straightforward as hell and don't allow for a lot of creativity.
     
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  19. orcinator Savant

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    Maybe if I could find the sprite sheets.
     
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  20. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    Patch is out!

     
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  21. HansDampf Prophet

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    I'd like to thank Voidpoint for reminding me to always wait a few months before buying and playing new games.
    :greatjob:
     
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  22. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    well now I'm glad I finished this before they "fixed" it :lol:
     
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  23. geno Learned

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    Mods will fix it. Anyway, there is a no reload mod already.
     
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  24. Mikeal Cipher

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    Finist it today. Pretty great game, but final boss was bullshit, fuck those hitscanning assholes.
     
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  25. Unkillable Cat Prestigious Gentleman LEST WE FORGET Patron

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    1. Sounds like I made the right call by dropping it after the first episode.

    2. You should have listened to me a month ago?
     
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