Interview Iron Tower RPG Roundtable: Setting, story and characters

[DarkUnderlord]

Oh, and DU happened to find two newsposts to put above this one within the hour, after having been silent for a couple of weeks. Well done.

Damnit. They're on to me! :paranoid:

EDIT: HAHA! Now I have maliciously buried VD's interview behind 3 more news items! Soon it will no longer be on the front page at all!

We want VD back.

You have my support.

VD's welcome to come back and return to writing articles and news items here any time he wants.

And great article, VD is awesome etc...

 

[Lumpy]

We want VD back.

You have my support.

VD's welcome to come back and return to writing articles and news items here any time he wants.

 

[inwoker]

Vd come back please, codex news and editorials sucks really hard without you

muhahaha

 

[FrancoTAU]

We'd have to have some content first before it could even suck.

 

[Kingston]

We want VD back.

You have my support.

VD's welcome to come back and return to writing articles and news items here any time he wants.

 

[Ander Vinz]

VD's welcome to come back and return to writing articles and news items here any time he wants.

Ha-ha. But why VD, he's nothing compared to MCA!

MCA's welcome to write articles and news items here any time he wants.

fixed

 

[Futile Rhetoric]

Jesus Christ on a goddam stick, stop the bloody bruised ego shit already.

 

[Lumpy]

http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/in ... opic=342.0
http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/in ... opic=343.0
Just in case anyone else missed them.

Also, where the fuck are VD's own opinions?

 

[Vault Dweller]

I've learned the hard way that participating in my own "roundtables" is a bad idea.

 

[Lumpy]

I've learned the hard way that participating in my own "roundtables" is a bad idea.

I can't bother to read 7 pages worth of drama, but that then was almost an interview, an official Codex article, and you used two different names. This one, it's clearly named a roundtable, it doesn't have questions, but rather topics, and it's posted on your forums. I think it's not only "okay", but expected that you post your opinions, much in the same way "A treatise from combat to Pink Floyd" is vastly superior to a thread that says "Combat and Pink Floyd. Discuss."

 

[MountainWest]

Damnit. They're on to me! :paranoid:

We're not so much on to you as standing beside you watching, shaking our heads.

And great article, VD's articles are awesome. But since I'm a child I must imply everyone are fanboys of VD.

Fixed.

 

[Jason]

We're not so much on to you as standing beside you watching, shaking our heads.

So you actually think DU is trying to bury VD's article by posting two newsitems that came out on the same day, moving VD's item a half-inch further down the headlines column?

Hmm, you might be on to something. I seem to remember Kharn having a few public arguments with VD in the past. Let's see what he did.

Dark Age of Camelot Grab Bag Q&A (05/23)
Mass Effect Interview (05/23)
Roundtable: Setting, Story, and Characters (05/23)

Holy shit! Kharn is part of the conspiracy!
Now what about that bastard Dhruin?

Saturday - May 24, 2008
Iron Tower Studio - RPG Developer Roundtable
Legend - Hand of God - THQ Signs on for NA
Mass Effect - Screens @ Gamers Hell
Sacred 2 - Screens @ Gamers Hell
The Witcher - D'Jinni Contest
Two Worlds: The Temptation - Blog Update @ 1Up
Atari - Gone: Single-Player, Narrative-Driven

Well, he did leave at the top for that day,BUT ... he continued posting newsitems the next day, effectively burying this Iron Tower story.

Damn, VD sure is lucky to have you watching his back in this dangerous world of RPG newsposting shenanigans.

I've learned the hard way that participating in my own "roundtables" is a bad idea.

Lumpy's right on this. It is a different situation.

 

[MountainWest]

Damn, VD sure is lucky to have you watching his back in this dangerous world of RPG newsposting shenanigans.

Let me assure you my concern with VD's departure is purely egotistical. I liked the content he provided. You may argue that I can get it on ITS now, and I can, but it's much less and not with the same eager angry sarcasm as on the Codex.

Thing is, DU is one of the posters I enjoy reading. I wrote it back when the shitstorm happened. He's a great forum poster, one I often agree with, but a great content provider he is not. He weakened the Codex (imo) and the only thing I can do is take potshots like the one above.

And: With your post, aren't you watching DU's back?

EDIT: And here's what I thought of VD's behaviour in the last edition of newsposting shenanigans. The thread linked above.

What a silly thing to do. Especially considering that you've just stated that you didn't take D.P.s criticism personally.

Seems the lackey is a traitor.

 

[Vault Dweller]

@ baby arm

Answering your own question is something that won't sit well with some people and I don't want to open that can of worms again.

 

[Lumpy]

We're not so much on to you as standing beside you watching, shaking our heads.

So you actually think DU is trying to bury VD's article by posting two newsitems that came out on the same day, moving VD's item a half-inch further down the headlines column?

I don't think that was MW's point.
Thing is, DU, who only posts news sporadically, suddenly decided to post 5 news items. No, it wasn't a conspiracy to bury VD's roundtable into oblivion, but rather an attempt, conscious or not, to keep VD's stuff from being the only news discussed. Not to undermine him, but only to prove that while his stuff is beneficial, it's not essential to the Codex.

@ baby arm

Answering your own question is something that won't sit well with some people and I don't want to open that can of worms again.

Okay.
Could you reply to this post at least?

 

[Jason]

Let me assure you my concern with VD's departure is purely egotistical. I liked the content he provided. You may argue that I can get it on ITS now, and I can, but it's much less and not with the same eager angry sarcasm as on the Codex.

Thing is, DU is one of the posters I enjoy reading. I wrote it back when the shitstorm happened. He's a great forum poster, one I often agree with, but a great content provider he is not. He weakened the Codex (imo) and the only thing I can do is take potshots like the one above.

Fair enough.

And: With your post, aren't you watching DU's back?

Generally, no. Usually DU is much better at standing up for himself and swatting down fools than I'll ever be. In this case he didn't even bother. I posted because the accusation rankled me and I don't like the belief some people seem to have the current Codex staff members are hoping for VD and AOD to fail. Or maybe I'm just being an asshole today.

Answering your own question is something that won't sit well with some people and I don't want to open that can of worms again.

Understood. Perhaps I should stay away from that one.

 

[MountainWest]

Generally, no. Usually DU is much better at standing up for himself and swatting down fools than I'll ever be.

Obviously.

In this case he didn't even bother. I posted because the accusation rankled me and I don't like the belief some people seem to have the current Codex staff members are hoping for VD and AOD to fail.

I have no idea where you got that idea from. I sure as hell don't think any of the staff members wants AoD to fail. And I haven't gotten the impression anyone else thinks it either.

 

[DarkUnderlord]

I don't think that was MW's point. Thing is, DU, who only posts news sporadically, suddenly decided to post 5 news items. No, it wasn't a conspiracy to bury VD's roundtable into oblivion, but rather an attempt, conscious or not, to keep VD's stuff from being the only news discussed. Not to undermine him, but only to prove that while his stuff is beneficial, it's not essential to the Codex.

I never realised I had such deep-seated psychological reasons behind my news posting before. I always thought the brief "Eh, should post some news" thought I have sporadically was the beginning and the end of it, but apparently not. I suppose the last time I posted news was because there was something about VD on the front page too.

Ahah! There was! http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=23918 The Codex interview with Vince D Weller was in the news site for four whole days before Saint maliciously buried it with his Gothic 4 crap (4 days later) and some rubbish about Fallout 3 (a day after that)! I then posted 6 news items a whole week after VD's article had been posted about. This is an outrage. Something must be done. VD's articles should be left on the top of the Codex for like, evar and no more news posted like, evar.

So I'm thinking an embargo on posting any news items what-so-ever whenever there's something from VD on the front page. You know, just so we give him fair play like we do... umm... to... nobody else.

Usually DU is much better at standing up for himself and swatting down fools than I'll ever be. In this case he didn't even bother. I posted because the accusation rankled me and I don't like the belief some people seem to have the current Codex staff members are hoping for VD and AOD to fail.

No, no. I want AOD to fail. That's because I'm evil. Pure evil. Haven't you been reading this thread? I'm so outraged that a free website, which no-one gets paid for, is giving free links to another website that I have to do such a malicious act as post news items on the free news website, linking to even more websites which might steal our visitors who aren't paying for anything.

Seriously people, if I wanted VD to fail, or if I hated VD and felt the need to give him as little air-play as possible (given I'm apparently doing things like maliciously posting news on a news based website), the AOD forum sitting here would've been nuked a long time ago, we wouldn't be doing interviews with VD and VD would probably have some kind of special tag. Thankfully, I have better things to do. Plus, I don't really care if another website puts up content from a person that used to work for the Codex. News is news.

... and for the record, I've historically posted news items in sporadic bursts.

But you know, feel free to let this thread become a few pages longer about my news posting, rather than actually discussing VD's content. Because that means I'm winning in my evil plan to distract you all from VD's content anyway. AMIRITE or AMIRITE?

 

[Chefe]

I liked the article. I would comment on it, but the drama here is overwhelming.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Could you reply to this post at least?

Replied.

 

[Azael]

What's the deal with Vogel's answers? Seems like "I don't really have the time to answer questions right now" would have been better than those sorry one sentence answers that he gave.

Good article on the whole though, would also have liked to have seen more comments from VD. Not necessarily answering his own questions, but at least reacting to the others' responses.

 

[MF]

What's the deal with Vogel's answers? Seems like "I don't really have the time to answer questions right now" would have been better than those sorry one sentence answers that he gave.

Good article on the whole though, would also have liked to have seen more comments from VD. Not necessarily answering his own questions, but at least reacting to the others' responses.

Vogel is a semi-autistic recluse. It even shows in his games. The choices and consequences in Geneforge 4 are great, but the actual dialogue is pretty fucking awkward. Well written, but unnatural and fidgety.

"In my spare time, I spend time with my wife and constant inspiration, Mariann Krizsan, play computer games, watch TV, go to plays and movies, take long, wet walks, and do other geek-friendly activities."

Nothing wrong with that, but I wouldn't blame him for not being very good at this sort of thing.

 

[Elwro]

Ah, so that's where the Krizsan Province took its name from.

 

[Black]

Less PR, more selling.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Added Michal Madej, The Witcher's lead designer, and Leonard Boyarsky.