Company News Ken Levine shuts down Irrational Games

[DeepOcean]

Why would they? Games like Skyrim and Bioshock Infinite are the logical end conclusion for LGS style games. Once you cut the party out of the RPG, Once you reduce combat to boring real-time clicking at enemies until they die, once you focus on first-person 'immersion', what else is left? Arena, Ultima Underworld, System Shock were the true beginning of the decline.

WTF is this shit? I think you did forgot to add a Troll face in your post.

 

[RK47]

Why would they? Games like Skyrim and Bioshock Infinite are the logical end conclusion for LGS style games. Once you cut the party out of the RPG, Once you reduce combat to boring real-time clicking at enemies until they die, once you focus on first-person 'immersion', what else is left? Arena, Ultima Underworld, System Shock were the true beginning of the decline.

 

[RK47]

Arena, Ultima Underworld, System Shock were the true beginning of the decline.

WTF is this shit? I think you did forgot to add a Troll face in your post.

Anger leads to butthurt. Butthurt leads to rage. Rage doesn't take Intelligence.

 

[FeelTheRads]

(i.e. you can make personality choices through your character that result in scripted changes to the narrative)

Yeah, you keep repeating that retarded definition parroted 100% from Sawyer, but it doesn't make it any more true or less retarded.
You are defining visual novels. Period.

Scripted changes defining what an RPG is... I really wonder if you're doing this on purpose or you really don't realize the dumb shit you're saying.

Well, PS:T is the best RPG ever created, is it not?

Yeah well, PS:T is more RPG than both Protolol and Derp Siege put together, and it was sold as an Adventure/RPG, which it actually is.

Yes, you're probably referring to the Codex best RPG vote, but then again I don't care about shit where Protolol shows up.

 

[Monty]

I really felt sad when Herve raped Interplay

 

[catfood]

How is this RPG news?

 

[Roguey]

Yeah, you keep repeating that retarded definition parroted 100% from Sawyer, but it doesn't make it any more true or less retarded.
You are defining visual novels. Period.

I'm not you see, because visual novels have no gameplay. They're books with role playing.

 

[Chaotic_Heretic]

Yeah, you keep repeating that retarded definition parroted 100% from Sawyer, but it doesn't make it any more true or less retarded.
You are defining visual novels. Period.

I'm not you see, because visual novels have no gameplay. They're books with role playing.

No, there are an interactive electronic medium, which you play with active (almost braindead I agree) player participation. hence they are games. And Josh comes off as extremely narrowminded with his asssumptiom of what constitutes an RPG.

 

[Irenaeus]

Fuck you Roguey for making me brofist this heretic. Now I'll need to find a holy servant of the Lord to cleanse myself.

 

[LivingOne]

Joined:Feb 10, 2014

 

[tuluse]

No, there are an interactive electronic medium, which you play with active (almost braindead I agree) player participation. hence they are games. And Josh comes off as extremely narrowminded with his asssumptiom of what constitutes an RPG.

Microsoft Excel is the best game I've ever played. I play the role of the cursor, and I move from cell to cell inputting data.

 

[Monty]

No, there are an interactive electronic medium, which you play with active (almost braindead I agree) player participation. hence they are games. And Josh comes off as extremely narrowminded with his asssumptiom of what constitutes an RPG.

Microsoft Excel is the best game I've ever played. I play the role of the cursor, and I move from cell to cell inputting data.

I'm glad they got rid of that paperclip companion after player feedback though. Nothing but annoying lore dumps.

 

[Irenaeus]

No, there are an interactive electronic medium, which you play with active (almost braindead I agree) player participation. hence they are games. And Josh comes off as extremely narrowminded with his asssumptiom of what constitutes an RPG.

Microsoft Excel is the best game I've ever played. I play the role of the cursor, and I move from cell to cell inputting data.

It's the only game they allow me to play at work, along with Word, Powerpoint and some statistical ones (lame)

 

[mindx2]

Yah, some former Irrational employees at that one paywall-forum-where-devs-speak-perhaps-a-bit-too-openly-because-of-the-semi-security-of-the-paywall are kind of suggesting that Bioshock Infinite bombed, the delays and bloated budget are 100% the result of Levine's bad managerial decisions, but he gets to keep his job because of his Name Value.

There's still hope left in the world....

 

[Harg Harfardarssen]

I actually liked the first three stages of Bioshock.

Yes, a very good game for the first 20 minutes, it's just a bit of a shame about the remaining 20 hours.

I wonder how much of my resentment of those 20 hours game is a reaction to all of the hype. Maybe it would have been a somewhat enjoyable diversion if the consensus around the game had been that it was a pretty good game that starts strong but loses its way instead of "amazing game, awesome environmental iteration with plasmids allows all sorts of tactical awesomeness, mindblowing C&C and a story that will totally change the nature of a man who chooses to obey the game"

 

[Humanity has risen!]

I actually liked the first three stages of Bioshock.

Yes, a very good game for the first 20 minutes, it's just a bit of a shame about the remaining 20 hours.

I wonder how much of my resentment of those 20 hours game is a reaction to all of the hype. Maybe it would have been a somewhat enjoyable diversion if the consensus around the game had been that it was a pretty good game that starts strong but loses its way instead of "amazing game, awesome environmental iteration with plasmids allows all sorts of tactical awesomeness, mindblowing C&C and a story that will totally change the nature of a man who chooses to obey the game"

Or maybe it would have been seen as a good game if it didn't dumb System Shock 2 down to high heavens and cram it with AAA console game features.

 

[Johannes]

Fuck you Roguey for making me brofist this heretic. Now I'll need to find a holy servant of the Lord to cleanse myself.

A nun to suck you off?

 

[LusciousPear]

He wants to take the IP with him. F*ck them all, he could care less. Sounds like many of them were the last to know. A true bastard.

If he wanted to leave, he could take a few select members with him and put somebody else in charge of the company. But that is not what a sociopath would do.

He would just fold, take the IP with him and row away in a little boat with some of his friends after punching holes in the bottom of the ship.

It's a long list but I am adding Ken Levine to the list of people I have to recognise their names in the future so I know what kind of bastardry to expect. I'm terrible with names but some a**holes warrant remembering. Ken Levine. Levine, is that Irish? I am trying to tag something to the name with association so I will remember what a bastard he is.

And this is why I love Cleve.

 

[MuscleSpark]

And this is why I love Cleve.

Agreed.
I still don't know what the fuck an RPG is but at least I learned about misanthropy, and that some Jews just shouldn't be trusted.

 

[Chaotic_Heretic]

And this is why I love Cleve.

Agreed.
I still don't know what the fuck an RPG is but at least I learned about misanthropy, and that some Jews just shouldn't be trusted.

Ashkenazi Jews.

 

[Gondolin]

A nun to suck you off?

A priest to bugger him.

 

[SCO]

why does this topic have 7 pages


plebs

 

[Kaucukovnik]

Why would they? Games like Skyrim and Bioshock Infinite are the logical end conclusion for LGS style games. Once you cut the party out of the RPG, Once you reduce combat to boring real-time clicking at enemies until they die, once you focus on first-person 'immersion', what else is left? Arena, Ultima Underworld, System Shock were the true beginning of the decline.

You have some high standards there. Let me extend them a bit:

There has never ever been a true CRPG. It's adventure games (pre-set dialogue and limited C&C, items and hotspots to use them at), hiking sims (world exploration & immersion in a non-interactive environment), small-scale wargames (turn-based tactics) or a combination of these. Oh, and action games with stats, be it Diablo or real-time blobbers.
And if we go deeper, some older purists consider PnP RPG a mere storyfaggy extension of wargaming.

So what do you want? Roll a party and then watch them level up and raise skills, as any involvement on your part would break TRUE RPG-ness? Or maybe you are just trying too hard to please the hivemind, hard to tell these days.

 

[Dokkalfar]

Here, I'll help you even further:

RPG:

FPS:

RTS:

Adventure:

Keep this in mind and you'll be on the path to before you know it

 

[Excidium]

What's with the mongoloids still responding to this guy