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KickStarter Kingdom Come: Deliverance - Dan Vavra's medieval chad simulator

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Sorry to derail the current discussion, but what sum for development is correct now? Was it 5 million or 36 million? If it is that latter it puts the game in a different light a bit.
 

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Sorry to derail the current discussion, but what sum for development is correct now? Was it 5 million or 36 million? If it is that latter it puts the game in a different light a bit.
If that value is correct, it includes publisher costs (i.e. marketing, distribution, translation) as well. From several pages ago, it's unclear if Forbes got the number right, though. I think the general consensus is that the development cost was between 11 and 15 million USD.
 

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Sorry to derail the current discussion, but what sum for development is correct now? Was it 5 million or 36 million? If it is that latter it puts the game in a different light a bit.

The 36 million is a number by Forbes, the Czech edition, and nobody knows where it came from. They likely didn't get it from "official" places coz there's no attribution and Warhorse hasn't commented. Plus Vavra always maintained their budget is a sliver of what AAA games cost. I've always thought it's fantasy, plus now some sources say it's WITHOUT marketing, which is definitely insane, the game would be more expensive than Witcher 3.

Nah, something isn't right here.
 

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Fucking relativism in everything and every think. It's the manifesto of the modern progressives condensed into one word.

It has nothing to do with 'progressive' values actually, this is just how the world works (sadly, perhaps). Zen Buddhism got it thousands of years ago.
Again, if 'everything is relative and meaningless', than slavery and despotism is as "good" as multicultural democracy, and I doubt that sounds good to a typical "SJW".

By the way, rationality is indeed (mostly) an illusion - because in most cases rationality is used not to find Truth, but to 'rationalise' existing phenomena to reach a favoured conclusion AND make others see things your way, too. That was likely the reason we have it in the first place.
 
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$36m figure seems insane since Deep Silver would have been the one fronting the money for it.
Koch Media owns Deep Silver, Koch Media was acquired by THQ Nordic for ~$75m at closing.
 
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Somehow SJW rags can't stop covering this nazi game.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/03/05/kingdom-come-deliverance-historical-accuracy/

- Witcher 3: "It's NOT a historical game, it's fantasy FFS, so why no blacks in Poland!!11"
- KCD: "Sure it's historical but trying to be historicaly perfect is foolish so why even try. Plus all historians are biased, they must be, right? Therefore should've put more blacks in Bohemia!1!1!"

I know, at some point this is gonna stop being funny but not yet. Not yet.


where wise lords and knights protected their people from barbaric hordes threatening a well-ordered nation from without, and whose foreign ethnicity is conveniently marked by language and costumes.

lol what
since they obviously didn't pay attention in history class, maybe they should have paid attention to the game's storyline
 

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The comments under that article are hilarious.

Apparently there's a painting made in the era, of a biblical black queen Saba, which supposedly proves that painter knows how a black guy looks, because he met one in Bohemia.

Of course, there's probably also paintings of Jesus made in that era. Following the same logic, this proves that painter was a time traveller who went back in time to meet the real Jesus, and then went back to 1403 and painted his portrait.
 

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Somehow SJW rags can't stop covering this nazi game.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/03/05/kingdom-come-deliverance-historical-accuracy/

- Witcher 3: "It's NOT a historical game, it's fantasy FFS, so why no blacks in Poland!!11"
- KCD: "Sure it's historical but trying to be historicaly perfect is foolish so why even try. Plus all historians are biased, they must be, right? Therefore should've put more blacks in Bohemia!1!1!"

I know, at some point this is gonna stop being funny but not yet. Not yet.


Why do americans always apply their morals everywhere.... Even from the perspective of an sjw it makes no sense, i as a white man should not have opinions on the plight of wamens or pocs.

Anyway these people dont know shit, experts on the history of a certain country tend to be residents of that country, lots of the history of many euopean places is still privately owned.
Noble families founded alot of cities, the written history of those events is often still owned by them.

They also dont seem to get that any white guilt we might have has been imported in modern times since most of europe has abolished slavery before 1700......

That stupid one drop rule also doesnt apply here, obamas mulatto ass would only be considered black to be nice to him not because we actually consider him black.
 

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Why do americans always apply their morals everywhere....

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The author of the article is Swiss, you fuckwit Eurotrash.

If you were actually paying attention you'd realize all of this SJW nonsense is coming from Europe in the first place.
 

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The "guilty Europe", to be precise. Not everyone is ashamed of Europe's achievements in the way it is fashionable in some degenerate places.
 

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The author of the article is Swiss, you fuckwit Eurotrash.

If you were actually paying attention you'd realize all of this SJW nonsense is coming from Europe in the first place.


So you mutts cant even defend yourself against european scum ruining your schools? Its murrican schools that banned reading Tom Sawyer not europeans.

Most of the twitter feminists against objectification of women iven seen have been murrican, while we still have nude beaches.....
 

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Why do americans always apply their morals everywhere....

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The author of the article is Swiss, you fuckwit Eurotrash.

If you were actually paying attention you'd realize all of this SJW nonsense is coming from Europe in the first place.


So you mutts cant even defend yourself against european scum ruining your schools? Its murrican schools that banned reading Tom Sawyer not europeans.

Most of the twitter feminists against objectification of women iven seen have been murrican, while we still have nude beaches.....

Don't have such a red ass. You got called out on your stupid, American hating ways. No sense in trying to divert the subject.
 

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That article made me laugh. “There’s no religious heterodoxy” and then the next sentence he’s complaining that Father Godwin’s heterodoxy is ahistorical (I thought realism was impossible bro?), even though he’s just a Lollard. Nevermind that there are two more quests in that one town about sniffing out heretics. My guess is he just watched someone stream the main quest on YouTube.

Calling this guy a relativist or a postmodernist is a slur on relativism and postmodernism. He’s like a college freshman who thinks he’s much more clever than he really is. Whatever else you might think of Michel Foucault, the man believed in rigorous study of primary sources. His bibliographies are longer than his books. He would’ve laughed in your face if you told him historical accuracy was impossible.
 

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The author of the article is Swiss, you fuckwit Eurotrash.

If you were actually paying attention you'd realize all of this SJW nonsense is coming from Europe in the first place.


So you mutts cant even defend yourself against european scum ruining your schools? Its murrican schools that banned reading Tom Sawyer not europeans.

Most of the twitter feminists against objectification of women iven seen have been murrican, while we still have nude beaches.....

Don't have such a red ass. You got called out on your stupid, American hating ways. No sense in trying to divert the subject.

Funny from my perspective you look butthurt when you read "americans always apply their morals everywhere" as hating americans, especially if you ever read one of my gazillion posts in the various threads about guns and shootings.
 

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If someone lives in Switzerland that doesn't make them Swiss. All kinds of people from anywhere live in Switzerland.

Never mind that moron. Another one of those best moments in gaming I talked about, and again happens in KCD:

I am at a tavern, I rent a room, explicitly ask where my room is, I go there and sleep for an hour, just to get my savegame. Later I load that save game, get up from bed, and as I'm about to exit my room and go outside, the door opens, and a woman enters, wearing a nightgown. She enters and immediately turns around, opens the door again and exits the room. I am struck, but when I highlight her to try to talk to her, the tooltip says "Old Whore" :lol:

I'm alt-tabbing back to see what happens next.
 

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The author of the article is Swiss, you fuckwit Eurotrash.

If you were actually paying attention you'd realize all of this SJW nonsense is coming from Europe in the first place.


So you mutts cant even defend yourself against european scum ruining your schools? Its murrican schools that banned reading Tom Sawyer not europeans.

Most of the twitter feminists against objectification of women iven seen have been murrican, while we still have nude beaches.....

Don't have such a red ass. You got called out on your stupid, American hating ways. No sense in trying to divert the subject.

Funny from my perspective you look butthurt when you read "americans always apply their morals everywhere" as hating americans, especially if you ever read one of my gazillion posts in the various threads about guns and shootings.

As an American, I am always vigilant. Not a lazy Eurotrash who lets in mongoloids and desert barbarians to rape and pillage while they drink lattes at the cafe.
 

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It has nothing to do with 'progressive' values actually, this is just how the world works (sadly, perhaps). Zen Buddhism got it thousands of years ago.
Again, if 'everything is relative and meaningless', than slavery and despotism is as "good" as multicultural democracy, and I doubt that sounds good to a typical "SJW".
Oh, relativism is not "progressive" at all. If only because it's a sword that does not discriminate targets, as you pointed out correctly. But the neoliberals are excessively using relativism to further their twisted goals. If they weren't, most of what they preach would be self-contradictory.
 

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Their argument is dumb even as it is. It sums up to: "we can't know what happened in the past, therefore it's impossible that anything is `historically accurate`". That's bullshit. We don't know with certainty what happened 30 years ago either. Does this mean we should stop studying the past or taking examples from the past, both positive and negative?

It's a lazy first-year student's argument that gets destroyed in one minute.

One good thing about the article is that some kid might read it and finish it with the takeaway that he should apply critical thought when examining the sources of any story.
We definitely know what was happening in the past, even genetic composition. I posted already, that czechs (and moravians) have about twice as much Avar genes as every surrounding country (but no black genes). And we even know stuff like: Silesia had STRONG autonomy, or spit between leader of the country and high ranking official in year 8xx after which was slavery forbidden in czech highlands and in Moravian lands, or that certain noble stolen a horse and rode away with it and refused to pay for it. We also know the ONLY documented relatively "black" woman was a Greek princes, which from what I managed to find, had about the same skin tone as current "white" Greeks. Lack of sunlight is doing wonders in making every white even whiter.

Now, we can talk about exceptions as when someone took a man servant from Italia, or France. But, main character CAN'T be manservant from Italia or France, because it would fuck up the story. And considering the political turmoil in the country at times of the game, it's VERY likely a foreign noble with black man servant would RUN AWAY before he would get into trouble, or killed. Remember even Racek kobyla was sliced to pieces thrown to main street and these who killed him jumped on these pieces. Now imagine what they would do to FOREIGNER...
 

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The apothecary starts appearing in his shop at 10am or 10:30. I guess procrastination is common back then.

"no religious sceptics on the one hand, no religious fanatics on the other"
I wanna know what game these guys actually played.
Gamejournos play games for 2-3 hours at best.

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The author of the article is Swiss, you fuckwit Eurotrash.

If you were actually paying attention you'd realize all of this SJW nonsense is coming from Europe in the first place.
Now that's nonsense. The SJW crap definitely started in the US(okay, maybe Canaduh). Spread like the plague and the European retards want nothing more than to be acknowledged by their American't colleagues.

I mean, you guys seemingly have more trannies in just the Americunt games industry than the entirety of the European population combined.
 

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It's bad when gaming journos care more about politics than game mechanics, like the lack in the game of a Button - Awesome Connection.
 

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The apothecary starts appearing in his shop at 10am or 10:30. I guess procrastination is common back then.

"no religious sceptics on the one hand, no religious fanatics on the other"
I wanna know what game these guys actually played.
Gamejournos play games for 2-3 hours at best.

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The author of the article is Swiss, you fuckwit Eurotrash.

If you were actually paying attention you'd realize all of this SJW nonsense is coming from Europe in the first place.
Now that's nonsense. The SJW crap definitely started in the US(okay, maybe Canaduh). Spread like the plague and the European retards want nothing more than to be acknowledged by their American't colleagues.

I mean, you guys seemingly have more trannies in just the Americunt games industry than the entirety of the European population combined.

Nope. It started in Europe. As all things that are shit in this world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Hirschfeld
 

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