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KickStarter Kingdom Come: Deliverance Pre-Release Thread [RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Paul_cz

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Jesus Christ that foliage

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Their latest gameplay videos don't look half as good. Seems that the game suffered a lot of gfx downgrading up to release.
except this is a newly released screen, not some old one from beta.
 

Dexter

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Fucking city bois who were likely never outside of an area not contaminated by light pollution and saw all the stars arguing how night in the 15th century would be pitch black and others comparing peasants that worked on the fields all day and had pigs, cows, chickens, fish, milk/cheese/eggs, could make bread out of barley/rye/wheat, cook various vegetables and fruits and just use ingredients from the woods like mushrooms or nettles to make soups or stews and brew their own alcohol with concentration camp inmates or Somalians while there are still people living in very similar conditions in Eastern Europe in countries like Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova, Ukraine and other Ex-Soviet countries. Keep on delivering. :lol:
 
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Fredward

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Fucking city bois who were likely never outside of an area not contaminated by light pollution and saw all the stars arguing how night in the 15th century would be pitch black and others comparing peasants that worked on the fields all day and had pigs, cows, chickens, fish, milk/cheese/eggs, could make bread out of barley/rye/wheat, cook various vegetables and fruits and just use ingredients from the woods like mushrooms or nettles to make soups or stews and brew their own alcohol with concentration camp inmates or Somalians while there are still people living in very similar conditions in Eastern Europe in countries like Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova, Ukraine and other Ex-Soviet countries. Keep on delivering. :lol:

What I'm getting from this is that Eastern Europe is like Somalia.
 

Jimmious

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Very general discussion but yes, physical labor does build up "strength" and stamina.
Whoever disagrees never had a handshake with a farmer.
It's just that they won't become like bloated balloons like the body builders and a lot of the strength/muscle build up goes on the back muscles and the shoulders due to frequent weight lifting etc
 

Raghar

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Fucking city bois who were likely never outside of an area not contaminated by light pollution and saw all the stars arguing how night in the 15th century would be pitch black
Ya these clouds do make night pitch black when you don't live in city light polution.

and others comparing peasants that worked on the fields all day and had pigs, cows, chickens, fish, milk/cheese/eggs, could make bread out of barley/rye/wheat, cook various vegetables and fruits and just use ingredients from the woods like mushrooms or nettles to make soups or stews and brew their own alcohol with concentration camp inmates or Somalians while there are still people living in very similar conditions in Eastern Europe in countries like Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova, Ukraine and other Ex-Soviet countries. Keep on delivering. :lol:
Review European history in 1315. They destroyed over 40 percent of forest by farming and then, there was no forest to keep them alive at least a bit. Heavy overpopulation was a bitch.
 

Kyl Von Kull

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Fucking city bois who were likely never outside of an area not contaminated by light pollution and saw all the stars arguing how night in the 15th century would be pitch black
Ya these clouds do make night pitch black when you don't live in city light polution.

and others comparing peasants that worked on the fields all day and had pigs, cows, chickens, fish, milk/cheese/eggs, could make bread out of barley/rye/wheat, cook various vegetables and fruits and just use ingredients from the woods like mushrooms or nettles to make soups or stews and brew their own alcohol with concentration camp inmates or Somalians while there are still people living in very similar conditions in Eastern Europe in countries like Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova, Ukraine and other Ex-Soviet countries. Keep on delivering. :lol:
Review European history in 1315. They destroyed over 40 percent of forest by farming and then, there was no forest to keep them alive at least a bit. Heavy overpopulation was a bitch.

good thing the black death killed a third of the population 30 years later, solving the population problem for generations. also, replacing forest with pasture and cropland gets you a lot more food per square foot.
 

Darkzone

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lol doing physical labor all day doesnt make you strong. Anyone that worked such job and lifts progressively and not like a dumbass normie knows that the labor job really just gets in the way and only thing you get out of it is some conditioning and whatever money.
Yes and no. It is a bit more complicated. Physical labor can make you stronger or do nothing at all or even can make you weaker, but this depends on the kind of work and the hours spend at work. Progressive training and growth of strength requires also a resting phase where the growth / changes of the muscles is fulfilled ( supercompensation ). Without the resting phase you may overtrain / overwork yourself and even lose strength. The growth of the muscles fibres and its diameter is initiated by a damage on the muscles through the exercise and the resting phase is necessary to repair the damage and even to overcompensate the damage. But strength is not alone the diameter of the muscles, because also the neural conection to the muscle is imporatant. The amount of blood flow towards the muscle helps to retain an exercisse over a certain periode of time (flow out of the lactate out of the muscle and transport the carbonhydrates and fatty acids into the musclecells). If you work your self to death (this saying is not without a reason) you will lose strength over time, but if you have differnet work to do that trains different muscles and enough carbonhydartes and essential amino acids in your food then you can become stronger through the work. Naturally some lifetime armchair fart isn't as strong as someone who works with his body, because "you are what you do" (the human body adapts to the lifestyle and nourishment in muscles, neuralsystem and etc).
One example from my life was a wall painter whose strength of his hand was perhaps higher then mine ( i perceived it at least that way as he squeezed my hand ) despite that he had problems to benchpress the 100kg what was for me not even enough to warm up.
Therefore you are correct on the fact that physical labor interferes with training, because it interrupts the resting phase and puts a strain on the muscles. But the work itself changes the physiology (in bad and good) of the one who is exercising it.

Fucking city bois who were likely never outside of an area not contaminated by light pollution and saw all the stars arguing how night in the 15th century would be pitch black
Ya these clouds do make night pitch black when you don't live in city light polution.

and others comparing peasants that worked on the fields all day and had pigs, cows, chickens, fish, milk/cheese/eggs, could make bread out of barley/rye/wheat, cook various vegetables and fruits and just use ingredients from the woods like mushrooms or nettles to make soups or stews and brew their own alcohol with concentration camp inmates or Somalians while there are still people living in very similar conditions in Eastern Europe in countries like Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova, Ukraine and other Ex-Soviet countries. Keep on delivering. :lol:
Review European history in 1315. They destroyed over 40 percent of forest by farming and then, there was no forest to keep them alive at least a bit. Heavy overpopulation was a bitch.

good thing the black death killed a third of the population 30 years later, solving the population problem for generations. also, replacing forest with pasture and cropland gets you a lot more food per square foot.
And that is the reason why a Malthusian trap is seen as valid and good in some circles.
 

Smejki

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Basically - Vávra supported GG, wore a Burzum shirt at Gamescom and told MPOC and others to go fuck themselves.
Well, what can I say: he just generated a sale.

HUGE decline then author's identity politics dictate game's success instead of game's quality.
You are directly contributing to decline culture!
You should be ashamed of yourself.
If that were true, Hatred would have sold millions. If I remember correctly the surge of "I'm buying this to piss off SJWs!!!! ZOMFG NO POLITEEKS IN MY GAEMZ!" buyers meant some 50k sold during the first month.
 

jungl

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Very general discussion but yes, physical labor does build up "strength" and stamina.
Whoever disagrees never had a handshake with a farmer.
It's just that they won't become like bloated balloons like the body builders and a lot of the strength/muscle build up goes on the back muscles and the shoulders due to frequent weight lifting etc

t. I got my information from battle brothers. Ye it does but only to the standards that 50-60 year old guy that goes every sunday to the gym and only does 3-5 set of a barbell with 35 plates on each side. Really lazy. Not to the body builder that shoulder presses a pair of 55 dumbbells for 15 reps then immediately benches 60s for 30 reps followed by flys for 15, add in some superset some powercurls followed by shoulder press. repeat all this 5x for 30 sets or so. Or the strength guy focusing doing heavy 5x5 and beyond with the barbell.
 

Raghar

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good thing the black death killed a third of the population 30 years later, solving the population problem for generations. also, replacing forest with pasture and cropland gets you a lot more food per square foot.
If you read stuff about history, you'd know there was Europe wide bad harvest that last three years. Food stores were depleted because of overpopulation. They kinda survived 1315, deaths were in years 1316 and 1317.

Some Latin America empires would be able to last 5 years in these conditions without loss of population.
 

PrettyDeadman

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Basically - Vávra supported GG, wore a Burzum shirt at Gamescom and told MPOC and others to go fuck themselves.
Well, what can I say: he just generated a sale.

HUGE decline then author's identity politics dictate game's success instead of game's quality.
You are directly contributing to decline culture!
You should be ashamed of yourself.
If that were true, Hatred would have sold millions. If I remember correctly the surge of "I'm buying this to piss off SJWs!!!! ZOMFG NO POLITEEKS IN MY GAEMZ!" buyers meant some 50k sold during the first month.
I bought hatred on sale.
 

Smejki

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That is peculiar. I've never had problems hitting targets in games that didn't have arrow trails (Gothic 3, for example).

What makes archery so different in KCD? Well, 24 days to go untill we shall see if there is a difference, or not.


You had
a) a reticle or highlighted aimed target
b) strong in-game missed-hit feedback (doesn't work well enough with heavy foliage)
c) 3rd person view in case of Gothic 3, seeing the arrow from the side makes that easier
d) strong HUD feedback in newer games
e) near non-existent ballistic drop combined with close quarters combat in many action games

Since we don't do a), c) and e), can't do b) and don't want to do d), we had opt for trailing.
This is really not a case of popamoling-up KCD. Everybody in the studio had a problem with our archery as there was very little feedback outside practice target shooting. With no feedback comes no way to correct one's aiming. Moreover a missed hit will still likely put you in a dangerous situation. But now you can actually learn how to handle the bow.
 

Sentinel

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Is there an option to turn off the trail at least, for the masochists?

I also had a dream where the game had a "Realistic" difficulty setting, where the combat animations were closer to real-life, with no huge telegraphing movements before the hit, and the player had to actually react very fast to each move or risk serious injury/death.
 

Makabb

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From what everything I heard and saw vidoes so far, KC seems like Morrowind of today done better.
 

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