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Latest Mass Effect Book Sucks, Makes Good Fire Fuel

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So the latest Mass Effect book, Deception, has come out and it's so bad that even the most fanatic of Bioware fans are up in arms about it.


A list of errors and shittiness updated by people reading it:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/...CBHfWKU0sXh0ntukv-_cmo/preview?pli=1&sle=true



A video by a Bio-fan who decided to burn the book out of protest. Might want to leave the commentary blurbs on for this one, really adds to it.


 

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http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mas...egarding-Mass-Effect-Deception-9117701-1.html

To whom it may concern at Bioware

The Mass Effect universe has been a joy for many gamers, as well as fans of science fiction in general. This universe is arguably the most promising science fiction setting since Star Wars. As the creators of this Universe, it is your right to shape it as you see fit. However, as fans of Mass Effect, both the video games and the supplementary novels and comic books, we are very upset with Mass Effect: Deception, the most recent entry in the Mass Effect novel series.

Mass Effect: Deception has many problems. While we as fans could spend time criticizing Dietz writing style, or perhaps nitpick the overarching plot (both of which are subjective items), we are instead upset at the "artistic freedoms" taken by Mr. Dietz in this novel which directly violate the lore of the Mass Effect Universe. A list of inaccuracies has been compiled online at this link:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/...CBHfWKU0sXh0ntukv-_cmo/preview?pli=1&sle=true

Admittedly, many of these errors can be nitpicky (such as number 4: Citadel surrounded by stars). However, many of these points are out and out against the lore of both the video games and the previous novels and comics (such as, under characters, Gillian Grayson's autism never being mentioned). While obviously these works are certain to contradict each other in places, the sheer volume and frequency of these errors is completely overwhelming. Even worse are errors where simple editting should have caught (such as Nick aging 3 years in the course of 6 months between this story and Retribution).

Obviously, we as fans are greatly upset to see the Universe that we have come to love being given such a poor treatment. While we understand that the Universe belongs to you to shape, we as fans cannot stand silently by, allowing quality this poor to pass as canon. We understand that contracting out this book, publication, etc. is a vastly expensive process. However, when such effort and finance is spent, it should be done carefully, not haphazardly. To allow works such as this to pass for Mass Effect canon belittles not only the novel series, but the entire Mass Effect universe.

Thus, we as fans ask two things. First, we would ask that Mr. Deitz not be given another chance at writing a Mass Effect novel. The sheer volume of errors and inaccuracies show he doesn't have the same desire to build the Mass Effect universe as his predecessor, Mr. Karpyshyn. He clearly is not invested in the world Bioware worked so hard to create. We would ask that future novels only be undertaken by writers of the Mass Effect video games, or at least writers who are as big of fans of Mass Effect as we are.

Second, we ask that Mass Effect: Deception be disavowed as non-canon. While this may seem meaningless, and would likely hurt sales, we believe Mass Effect deserves better than this. This largely symbolic gesture would show Bioware is rededicating itself to quality control, and will show that Mass Effect isn't just a revenue stream, but a truely inspired and well-crafted creation. By allowing another writer to fix the glaring errors presented, we can hopefully get Mass Effect back on track, and see the Universe continue to grow, even after the completion of the video game trilogy, when Mass Effect 3 releases this March.

We understand there is a lot being asked in this letter. We also understand some of our complaints may seem small. However, we as fans need to be just as responsible to ensure that Mass Effect remains as imaginative as ever going forward. By voicing our complaints, we hope to at minium encourage Bioware and EA to reevaluate just what Mass Effect can offer.

Thank you for your time in this matter.

:hero:
 

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We paid for shit and wanted it to smell better.
 

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Well to the writer's excuse, it is quite hard to remember all ins and outs of such a diverse and massive setting - the amount and the complexity of lore is simply overwhelming.

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Can't wait to see ME3 gets the same treatment. Heheh.
 
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Is there a more pathetic form of life than the Bioware fan? Holy fuck, yeah let's get all upset about a shitty little 4th grade sci-fi pulp book that contradicts the lore of a some subpar video-game nobody in their right mind should give a damn about.

It's just sad what kind of pathetic excuses for human beings our modern society, the internet and marketing have created. Watching stuff like the video that was posted obove gives me the fucking creeps.
 

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Is there any more pathetic form of life than the Bioware fan? Holy fuck, yeah let's get all get upset about a shitty little book that contradicts the lore of a some supbar video-game nobody in their right mind should give a damn about.

It's just sad what kind of pathetic excuses for human beings our modern society, the internet and marketing have created. Watching stuff like the video that was posted obove gives me the fucking creeps.
On the one hand yeah, this. However, on the other hand, you have a company that hires a commercial writer to write a story based on setting/characters/events created by the effort of the company. What does the guy do? Gets even the most basic facts wrong. I flipped through that list, and even I know a bunch of shit from there, simply from my unfortunate exposure to ME1. Anyone that's played TWO games and maybe read three "codex" entries would be able to easily write up a list like that.

So, while in general, that's disturbing and pathetic, I find it good that even the sheep occasionally demand quality shears.
 

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Gets even the most basic facts wrong.
These are not facts. These are mere details of a fictional world. And when you change your mind about a fictional world, you change the details of a fictional world.

I myself consider Elder Scrolls lore an interesting curiosity, but you won't see me raging about Mannimarco, King of Worms, from Oblivion. It doesn't matter.
 

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Gets even the most basic facts wrong.
These are not facts. These are mere details of a fictional world. And when you change your mind about a fictional world, you change the details of a fictional world.

I myself consider Elder Scrolls lore an interesting curiosity, but you won't see me raging about Mannimarco, King of Worms, from Oblivion. It doesn't matter.

What if I call Frodo an elf? Or maybe Harry Potter is about Martians inventing Kama Sutra?
A fictional setting fact is still a fact - in its own context. If you approach it with an attitude of "Eh, it's made up, everything goes", you get shittons of schlock fanfic-level excrements published by major publishers and consumed by crowds of retards meanwhile the critics praise it to high heavens.

Sound familiar?
 

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Sounds like Touhou Project or Hentai Doujins. :lol:
 

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Frankly, I have seen worse than " Harry Potter is about Martians inventing Kama Sutra?"

Apparently, in the later Dune books, it was a bit jarring to see Jews and a Jewish conspiracy enter the supra-future fantasy setting out of nowhere. Still, if there was anything wrong with the quality of later Frank Herbert Dune books, the Jews were not one of them. It's always the style and development of the plot, and not the fact that they retconned Jews out of nowhere.

(Is retconned the right word?)
 

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Frankly, I have seen worse than "Harry Potter is about Martians inventing Kama Sutra?"

Apparently, in the later Dune books, it was a bit jarring to see Jews and a Jewish conspiracy enter the supra-future fantasy setting out of nowhere. Still, if there was anything wrong with the quality of later Frank Herbert Dune books, the Jews were not one of them. It's always the style and development of the plot, and not the fact that they retconned Jews out of nowhere.

(Is retconned the right word?)

Yeah, of course, the importance shouldn't be so much on the what rather, on the how. Unfortunately, I gather that the how is so bland in that latest book that it's not even worth raging over. I mean, if I had a series I liked, and suddenly a new book came out with an excellent story but with a bunch of "facts" being presented as "wrong", I'd ignore that and just enjoy the story. Unsurprisingly, this new book doesn't have such a saving grace, which means that it can be torn apart even by the most clueless of sheep. Says a lot of things about it.

And yeah, retcon is the right word. But in this case it's not retconning, it's just author doing a rush job and possibly being lazy to check the "facts" beyond skimming the first line of each entry. Not that I can blame him.
 

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I like how the retard can't even burn a book well and just manages to char it a bit by wrapping it in a goddamn paper towel. DERP DERP BOOK IS TOO SOLID NO LIGHT ON FIER WHAT DO
 
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I laughed. And then when I read "This is my 5th time trying to burn it.", I felt sadness and pity for the poor lost soul, so proficient in the esoteric discipline of ME lore, and yet unable to comprehend the intricacies of kerosene.

No, seriously, I honestly feel bad for that person. How sad is it to make a whole drawn-out video recounting the failures of a book, leading up to the cathartic act of burning it (and with The Roof is on Fire in the background), only to fail at properly igniting a bunch of paper in the end. I'm going to like that video just so the author feels a bit better about himself.
 

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The fact there is one person in the world, just one person, willing to buy something like this speaks volumes. Decline of the west indeed.
 

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