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In Progress Let's Play Victoria 2 AHD - the south shall rise!

Nationt to play

  • The CSA

    Votes: 18 78.3%
  • Sweden

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Other, specifiy please

    Votes: 1 4.3%

  • Total voters
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Norfleet

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Well, you have to pursue an industrialization strategy. What else would you be doing with your states? YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS! That's one of the THINGS of these kinds of games.
 

Vaarna_Aarne

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I dunno, I think the real CSA would have eventually gotten rid of slavery on its own anyway, if they were really all about States Rights, including the right to determine whether or not to allow owning other people. I mean, it's not a very efficient system. When you own slaves, you have to spend at least subsistence wages on them, not to mention pay decidedly not-slaves to keep them from escaping. Otherwise they die. When you DON'T own them, you don't have to pay them that much, and if they die from the terrible working conditions, you hire some more. Exploitation without ownership is simply much more profitable. You can abuse a rental in ways you'd never do with your own car.

Plus, slaves have kind of weak pop-demand, which means that you can't sell them as much stuff. This, in turn, stifles your economy, since without ravenous demands for more stuff, who are you selling all this crap to?
Actually the pop demand is not the key issue for Slavery being counter-productive in Vicky 2. It's the fact that slave pops don't assimilate, and they are far less productive than Farmers. It's the production efficiency that makes it a crap thing, since you simply produce less stuff with the same worker input. This is even more important, since it eventually cuts significantly into your overall exports too, and your industrial autarky (since as oft-mentioned, common raw materials are super-valuable without modding due to how world industry totally explodes out of any fucking control within 50 years).

And you know, then there's the whole rebel faction booster slavery creates for all other pops.
 

Norfleet

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Well, you already mentioned that part, so there wasn't much need to mention that issue again.
 
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Freedom is slavery
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My new ally Mormonland honors the alliance to occupy communism.
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Liquid fuel technology, if only we had something that would run on it.
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The CSA is the first to harness the power of electricity. Only a small step from constructing death rays and world domination now.
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This is odd there should be more. The calm before the storm? I feel like more soldiers will be needed.
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The CSA has always opposed slavery. Freedom Communism is slavery. Black soliders will be deployed on a front line near you.
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X-rays? Can I kill some good less commies with it? No? Then what is it good for?
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Occupy Washington!
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This is surely the work of socialist spies.
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Well that explains were all the Bolshevist troops are. I'm going to accept the call to war, though I won't be able to send help. Though hopefully I will be able to finish this quickly and then help.
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The second Franco-Prussian war, pretty much the same coalitions as last time. Interestingly I'm war leader this time around, the CSA shall lead our glorious alliance. Occupy Elsaß-Lothringen!
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I think I might need to some more troops for this.
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Drive back the communists that are trying to occupy our precious Dixie!
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More metal, I'm sure that will good for something.
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Occupy Bolshevism!
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While commie stomping is going quite well in foreign land the war is going poorly.
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Mormonland is forced to withdraw from the war after being mostly occupied, though their support allowed me to get an upper hand in.
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The CSA shall free Kentucky from communist slavery! The Confederacy has ALWAYS opposed slavery.
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Thats not good enough, new England shall also be set free!
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Thats no good. Why do you support slavery? Slavery is clearly communism.
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CSA invents the telephone.
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The netherlands want out of the war in Europe, one less enemy to fight.
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I also manage to get Austria and Russia to agree to white peace as they have nothing to gain in the war. Only France Spain and Switzerland left now
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I'd say the situation looks not to great for Germany, but surely better now with out the Austrian and Russian hordes.
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In preparation for future military action in Europe I request military access from the NGF and UK.
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Crush communism, better dead than red.
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In Europe the German army is now concentrated on a single front and it looks like they might drive the French back.
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Occupy worst america, death to communism!
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Traitorous Italians have signed a separate peace treaty with the French, bloody lot of good they did.
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Spain is also growing weary of fighting a for them pointless war.
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Well thats all good but I still want kentucky.
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Only communists need slaves for they do not have the technology of FREEDOM.
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Damned tabloids, they are probably pinko commies the lot of them.
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I rather like dallas, no need to blow it up.
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Confederate freedom is to strong for bolshevist scum. Massachusetts is now free and Kentucky is annexed by the CSA.
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Time to demobilize my economy is down the getter and I won't be needing all my troops in Europe.
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But first more transport ships will be needed to carry troops to Europe.
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In western Germany the war still rages on. The Confederacy shall soon arrive to to help unoccupy Germany for FREEDOM!
 

Norfleet

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Maybe the reform that's up for passage is one of those double-edged ones.
 

Vaarna_Aarne

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Nah, all reforms are good due to the effect they have on immigrant attraction and lowered rebel spawn rate. It's rather that some (read: Mega-overpowered Healthcare reforms and to a lesser extent Education reforms) of them are simply so damn good.
 
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Time to bring and end to this war by occupying France for freedom.
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Liberals, communists I don't care about the difference they are traitors the lot of them.
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Having used diplomacy to bring Columbia into the CSA sphere of influence and using new technology it is now possible to build a canal across panama.
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Finally it is possible to for ships to travel from the west to the east of america with out having to sail all the way around south America. Another great achievement by the confederacy made possible by 100% freedom and with out communist slavery.
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Death to filthy traitor rebel scum!
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While the Confederate industrial technology now is very good naval tech lags behind. For any major over seas war a strong navy will be needed.
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Reactionaries? Probably just communists with a different name if they rebel against the glorious confederacy.
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The first confederate troops land in northern Germany, time to bring the battle to the French.
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Secessionist traitors! Seceding from a union should be punishable by death, no exceptions.
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The CSA invents electric lighting while the heathens and commies still live in the dark ages proving the superiority of freedom.
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Begone from germany frogs, soon we will come for you and occupy Paris.
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The first step to improving the navy.
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The anarcho liberals communists have occupied much of former mexican territory. Time to unoccupy it and hang the traitors.
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How dare they desecrate sacred confederate soil? To bad I can't do anything about it since my entire navy is in hamburg.
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If your not North 'merican we don't want you.
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Some french still resist, but soon France shall be occupied for freedom.
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More naval tech, since much of this tech is old the researching of it is rapid.
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Automobiles, another technological marvel from the Confederacy.
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The French don't have much of a fight left in them by now, this war should be over soon.
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Thats pretty much the end of them, time for occupation.
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The confederate industrial production has increased quite bit in the last decades. But capitalists are to stupid to invest in new highly desired technology like cars and telephones.
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Why do Parisian boulevards have trees on both sides? Because the confederates like to march in the shade. The French do try to stop it, but they don't have any army left to speak of.
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Well thats no good, but I don't think any one will dare try to get that money back.
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Switzerland realizing the war is lost withdraws from the war leaving only France.
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New ship technology leading to the development of new and much improved light war ships. Also the French attempt to retake Paris proves to be disastrous for them.
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White peace is that supposed to be a joke?
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But with the occupation of Paris they are forced to admit defeat and give in to Confederate-German demands.

Well not that I've become quite powerful, and with the union broken I think that the way to keep this interesting would be to continue this by simply ignoring infamy and aim to unite all of America under the Confederate flag. But first I will take a few years to have my still high war exhaustion to drop down to reasonable levels. After which the south shall conquer! Drive the communists and Brits from America!
 

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