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Ysaye

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So - thinking of getting an Analogue Pocket that can play GB, GBC and GBA games - is the sum total of Wizardry games for those platforms the following?

  • Wizardry Summoner (no translation)
  • Wizardry Gaiden 1
  • Wizardry Gaiden 2
  • Wizardry Gaiden 3
  • Wizardry Empire 1
  • Wizardry Empire 2
What other dungeon crawlers are there? Sword of Hope 1 and 2?
 

ChaDargo

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So - thinking of getting an Analogue Pocket that can play GB, GBC and GBA games - is the sum total of Wizardry games for those platforms the following?

  • Wizardry Summoner (no translation)
  • Wizardry Gaiden 1
  • Wizardry Gaiden 2
  • Wizardry Gaiden 3
  • Wizardry Empire 1
  • Wizardry Empire 2
What other dungeon crawlers are there? Sword of Hope 1 and 2?

Mazes of Fate (GBA)? I never played it but it doesn't look half bad.
 

ChaDargo

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I've been perusing this thread and didn't catch any mention of this free mapping tool. I've never really mapped a dungeon and have avoided games that require self-made maps, but this thing makes me want to give them a try for once.

https://gridmonger.johnnovak.net

Anyone have experience using it? How does it compare to Grid Cartographer? I don't want to pay for it (I'm cheap and I don't 100% know I want to map something). Gridmonger looks awesome but, yet again, never done this sort of thing.
 

LarryTyphoid

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I've been perusing this thread and didn't catch any mention of this free mapping tool. I've never really mapped a dungeon and have avoided games that require self-made maps, but this thing makes me want to give them a try for once.

https://gridmonger.johnnovak.net

Anyone have experience using it? How does it compare to Grid Cartographer? I don't want to pay for it (I'm cheap and I don't 100% know I want to map something). Gridmonger looks awesome but, yet again, never done this sort of thing.
Our resident Rincewind is the developer of Gridmonger. Here's the thread.
 

Jermu

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done couple games with gridmonger its great
have not used grid cartographer so can't compare em
 

LarryTyphoid

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If I had known about Gridmonger, I probably wouldn't have bought Grid Cartographer. I'm sticking with GC for now but Gridmonger also seems perfect for blobbers, and lacks popamole automapping.
 

Ysaye

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Did anyone sink any hours into Jettatura? I have the game in my Steam library and I gave it a half whirl the other day and am thinking actually investing some time into it.....
 

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Did anyone sink any hours into Jettatura? I have the game in my Steam library and I gave it a half whirl the other day and am thinking actually investing some time into it.....
It's on my wishlist so if you get invested into it please post your impressions of it. I want to know how it stacks up to other bloobers.
 

Dorarnae

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been re-playing wizardry tale of the forsaken land. was on my way to floor8 and haven't saved my game for a while. I knew there was a boss on the 8th floor but didn't remember if I had acces to the shortcut first. Anyway I get there, fight against the flesh golem. I try restrict shot first, he cast Amok which do big damage to my front row, then I try to cast a heal quickly with my priest/thief but he manage to cast a freeze spell first that heavily damage my entire party (my party a bit low lvl). so my front row is dead except Hinna. I try to spell cancel him but he starts to use melee only now. eventually my party die and I turn off the console....

sigh. lol.
 

Twizman

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Saw this in a developer update for Wizardry Five Ordeals 23 Dec 22’:

‘The game has sold a total of 25,000 units, and we will continue to develop the game next year so that even more users can enjoy it, including the upcoming DLC and 1.0, as well as the console versions that are scheduled to follow the 1.0.’

There’s going to be console versions? Anyone know which are planned?
 

Matador

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Saw this in a developer update for Wizardry Five Ordeals 23 Dec 22’:

‘The game has sold a total of 25,000 units, and we will continue to develop the game next year so that even more users can enjoy it, including the upcoming DLC and 1.0, as well as the console versions that are scheduled to follow the 1.0.’

There’s going to be console versions? Anyone know which are planned?
Honestly 25000 copies sold of an old, obscure and niche title with low production values is pretty good.

Totally deserved. They made a great work bringing back this great Wizardry framework. Hope they achieve succes in the future updates, I will support without hesitations.
 

somerandomdude

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Honestly 25000 copies sold of an old, obscure and niche title with low production values is pretty good.
I hope that motivates them to give us Tale of the Forsaken Land and Busin0, which are both considerably better games than Five Ordeals, IMO.

The problem with these old school dungeon crawlers is they're all resource management games. You have to get through a floor without spending all your items and MP resources, and if your party isn't strong enough to do that, then you have to grind. The addition of allied actions allowed for another way to play strategically and conserve resources, and it was still balanced in a way where the game still had a challenge. Even if you have an over leveled party, you still had to respect that the enemy could still take you out of you didn't use your allied actions appropriately.
 
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Dorarnae

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I haven't tried other scenarios from five ordeal, traveler's property is brutal, lost another party tonight.... but Prisoners of the battles is good.

Tale of forsaken land is good for it's scenario and some interraction in the dungeon(which I agree many game dungeon do feel a bit empty), but for difficulty I'd rank it on the easy side. Also the stats on some items are a bit weird, like I'd much rather have a dagger because of it's high accuracy and hitting two time(with your str stat you still deal decent dmg) than a bunch of weapon with negative accuracy. You're also somewhat stuck with the story character, they're usually stronger than your character and give additionnal conversations.
The 'sequel' fix a lot of problem the first game had, much faster battle system by skipping all animation, more class and harder game overall, though if you get one Allied action in particular(you can miss it because quest have deadline), the game gets much easier.
they're great game, I played them more than once but I wouldn't say they're better.

Elminage is the best though :)
 

Ysaye

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I haven't tried other scenarios from five ordeal, traveler's property is brutal, lost another party tonight.... but Prisoners of the battles is good.

Tale of forsaken land is good for it's scenario and some interraction in the dungeon(which I agree many game dungeon do feel a bit empty), but for difficulty I'd rank it on the easy side. Also the stats on some items are a bit weird, like I'd much rather have a dagger because of it's high accuracy and hitting two time(with your str stat you still deal decent dmg) than a bunch of weapon with negative accuracy. You're also somewhat stuck with the story character, they're usually stronger than your character and give additionnal conversations.
The 'sequel' fix a lot of problem the first game had, much faster battle system by skipping all animation, more class and harder game overall, though if you get one Allied action in particular(you can miss it because quest have deadline), the game gets much easier.
they're great game, I played them more than once but I wouldn't say they're better.

Elminage is the best though :)

I haven't played Busin0 but I agree with your opinion on Foresaken Land. Also agree on Traveler's Property.
 

KeighnMcDeath

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Five ordeal put out their dungeon maker?
Everything translated to english?
Can you transfer parties to different scrnarios?
So - thinking of getting an Analogue Pocket that can play GB, GBC and GBA games - is the sum total of Wizardry games for those platforms the following?

  • Wizardry Summoner (no translation)
  • Wizardry Gaiden 1
  • Wizardry Gaiden 2
  • Wizardry Gaiden 3
  • Wizardry Empire 1
  • Wizardry Empire 2
What other dungeon crawlers are there? Sword of Hope 1 and 2?

Mazes of Fate (GBA)? I never played it but it doesn't look half bad.
What is an analogue pocket?

Edit---- ah!
https://store.analogue.co/




I wonder if i could get those games to work on my iphone. Dunno why nintendo or whomever doesn't try to capitalize on phones more.

Bah! I didn't see his later update:
 
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Dorarnae

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So I spent quite a while lvling up on traveler's property, was around lvl22 and made it to floor 10. was doing ok overall, til I met a big group of gold dragon with breath that petrifies , now I need another rescue party :negative:
 

Dorarnae

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Some of the monsters like this guy have so much hp...I think I'll farm some more before going to floor10.
 

LarryTyphoid

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What do you guys think of Wizardry 5? It's definitely good for a breather after trudging through Wizardry 4.
 

KeighnMcDeath

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Maybe SNES Hacked, maybe.

Man, it runs fast though I'm more of an original version fan.



Man that original though:


C64?

Uh.. that ain't right. That's Spell of Destruction.

Well this did come with my physical archive


Or go playstation.
 
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KeighnMcDeath

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I dunno. Feeling the apple is better.


Eh? There's a TurnoGrafx version?

Psh.. some video

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Somewhere a storm is brewing...

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He is tired of his harem.

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No longer can he help himself.. he searches.

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Something tingles inside...

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WTF! Knock it off you perv.
 
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Reality

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Wiz 5 pretty good but I find it one of the only classic wizardry where you end on a high party level... 1/3 I barely get my 2nd level 7 spell and finish

Has some quirks too it : it's the only wizardry I use bishop's because there's a ton of plot items and unlike most games they must be identified before use.

There's a lot of dialog and puzzles but floor 1-6 are normal and mostly about collecting stuff for the "all puzzle floors" at the end 7-8
 

KeighnMcDeath

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I still like using bishops as spares in Wiz1-3.
 

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