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Going for B, we need to get Kyrie's crazy ass home for one, and that shuttle gives me an odd vibe. Gut instinct, really. Edit: it's Shulgi!
Rei Wakayama is confirmed to be Dante with tits.
Had we gone with A, we'd have been on our own with the Scarlet Lightning, and the Vizala 2s, and the warship. Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't see how we could have pulled a win when the odds would have been far more against us. The surprise factor?
We'd probably die in the uncaring vacuum of space. Bad End and all.
Speed and Surprise one we would have saved all those Fighters and caused a huge amount of havoc in the Enemy Lines Scarlet would have most likely In the Beginning Ignored us then came back once we started Pwning the Carrier. Pure Speculation at this point unless Treave decides to give us a "What would happen..."
 

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Scarlet went for the priority target: the black-painted nightmare CF that has been terrorising the joint Indus/UNS forces. She's not stupid. She would not have ignored Senya, as he'd have obviously been the biggest threat. :M
 

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edit: Also, if you had gone to the mining facility the White Fangs would be waiting for you there. The enemy isn't entirely dumb. They'll try to predict and track your movements, unless you do something utterly insane like crashing a live exercise. :lol:

Gonna vote B. It may end up being the less dangerous of the two choices and brings us closer to Earth. Unfortunately we don't have our elixir anymore, but it seems like we used it at the right time.
 

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Scarlet went for the priority target: the black-painted nightmare CF that has been terrorising the joint Indus/UNS forces. She's not stupid. She would not have ignored Senya, as he'd have obviously been the biggest threat. :M
The Carrier would be Target Number one if we can't Recharge then its GG for Senya anyways. CFs are never a Pirority target for the Defenders its the Enemy Carriers its Always the Enemy Carriers strike the Supplies and watch your Enemies Wither and Die.
 

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The refugee shuttle is carrying two hundred Higashi citizens back to Earth. Sun L4 wasn't entirely enemy territory when war broke out. No one important's on board that you know of. Do remember that the White Fangs are also after you.

If you had gotten caught out there without using the drug between the enemy carrier, ten frames and the Scarlet Lightning you'd be dead. I don't see how you'd win when you barely eked out a victory when the odds were on your side. Even if you somehow manage to hold out by using the drug, while you're busy with the enemy ace all the other Vizalas swarm the warships and destroy both cruisers, cripple your mother ship, and Jean kicks the bucket.
 

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White Fangs, eh? How soon will our Anhur be fixed and upgraded, wouldn't want get caught with our pants down.
They'll try to predict and track your movements, unless you do something utterly insane like crashing a live exercise. :lol:
Oh rub it in, why don't you.
and Jean kicks the bucket.
Who cares about Jean?
...so, was Shulgi was the one who founded metaland it's likes in this timeline? Considering his general lack of fucks to give, that seems like something he would do.[/quote]
 

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Jean kicks the bucket.
Jean: "Senya, you fuuuuuuuuu-"
Naim: "Jean, nooooooooo!"
Senya: "Guess we'll have to find another Jean..."

What about if we picked B2, treave?


I think either choice we make now we might be running into combat. With A we might encounter the Fangs and with B we might encounter the Scarlet Lightning. Thing is, if we go A, we still have to double back and go through who ever is waiting for us anyway - though this time with an escort...

Also, there's the ship to consider. Are we really protecting them be escorting them? I mean, we have half the solar system chasing us. They'd probably be safer flying through themselves wouldn't they? edit: And hopefully we'll verify they aren't some sort of trap before escorting them.
 

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In B2 Anhur gets trashed but the warships manage to prevent Rei from finishing the job. Jean dies trying to attract her attention. Escorting the ship means you have "immunity" according to the rules of war. No one's supposed to fire on refugees anyway, but a military escort is there to ensure other unsavory elements like, uh, space pirates don't prey on them.
 

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If you had gotten caught out there without using the drug between the enemy carrier, ten frames and the Scarlet Lightning you'd be dead. I don't see how you'd win when you barely eked out a victory when the odds were on your side. Even if you somehow manage to hold out by using the drug, while you're busy with the enemy ace all the other Vizalas swarm the warships and destroy both cruisers, cripple your mother ship, and Jean kicks the bucket.
You Said that we can out Run the Custom Unit I really don't see a Problem with A1 Senya thins the Swarm breaks through Instills the Fear of God on the Enemy Carrier or makes an Impromptu Ean Day Show. comes back around finishes Swarms then attempts to hit the Ace who runs out of Juice 2 minutes before we do with Backup of Jean and Naim. Really I think that we were only boned because we focused on the Ace when she was so far out. 4 shots that could have killed the Enemy CFs.
 

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The big problem is that Senya can't dodge attacks from nine Vizala IIs, one carrier, and the enemy ace all at the same time. Even the Scarlet Lightning started to get pinned down near the end, and she was dealing with two Vizala IIs, three cruisers and your Anhur. I think the update was pretty clear that we have trouble handling their ace even with backup from two frames and the warships.

Jean and Naim are not going to rush forward recklessly to support you. You're doing all of this without fire support from the warships either, being out of their range. Expect no distractions in your favour. More likely you kill one Vizala II on your initial approach, then you get swarmed by the remaining eight and the ace. While you try to disengage and use your superior speed, the carrier begins firing salvos to cut off your escape and make sure you are unable to get too far. Moving in a straight line, the fastest way to escape, means you're dead. With the other mechs on your tail, you might decide to go for the carrier, but going head on is a stupid move as it just leaves you trapped between frames and a warship. With the firepower you're packing you won't be able to destroy the carrier before you are shot down. It has a barrier. If you somehow manage to survive, with the drug in full flow, you still have to deal with the ace. Rushing back to take out the eight Vizalas now headed towards your warships, like what happened here, won't work in the A scenarios because fire support is now against you. You have nothing distracting the Scarlet Lightning from shooting you down while you're headed straight back. At best you manage to escape with just your life using some creative thinking, Anhur a smouldering wreck. At worst you die.

Also, if you had focused on shooting down the fodder that means you're taking your eye off the enemy ace coming towards you. The moment she sees you're intent on destroying her team rather than taking her on, guess what happens? Same thing happened in the update itself. She uses her rifle. Then you're dead, because you were concentrating on some far off frame instead of the approaching threat.
 

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Escorting the ship means you have "immunity" according to the rules of war. No one's supposed to fire on refugees anyway, but a military escort is there to ensure other unsavory elements like, uh, space pirates don't prey on them.
Ah, but the White Fangs aren't part of any regular force, are they? Hmm.
 

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we see things in Different Lights I'll have to Accept that. That or I am seriously underestimating the Level of the Flame Gieloth Improved Reflexes doesn't mean anything if you can't keep your thoughts up to speed. Not only that Yua is assisting us in Piloting the CF and yet Scarlet can outdo us in Targeting? Like I said I must be seriously Underating something here.
 

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Officially the White Fangs are still on the UNS payroll, being a mercenary group and all. It would probably be bad propaganda for the UNS if one of their mercenary troops massacred refugees. So far the war has been relatively 'civil' after the initial shock of a UNS colony being destroyed. No one appears to want a repeat of that. Still, the Indus's willingness to deploy nukes against Neo Heliopolis might be a cause for concern...

we see things in Different Lights I'll have to Accept that. That or I am seriously underestimating the Level of the Flame Gieloth Improved Reflexes doesn't mean anything if you can't keep your thoughts up to speed. Not only that Yua is assisting us in Piloting the CF and yet Scarlet can outdo us in Targeting? Like I said I must be seriously Underating something here.

She doesn't outdo you in targeting, she's just good enough of a shot that with the speed and power of a beam rifle, it doesn't matter. Rather than the speed of thoughts, it's instinct. Preternatural combat instinct, as hinted at in the update. It's just that much faster than having to think about your moves. Her mech is inferior to yours, but she has a large advantage in fighting skill and instinct. There are drawbacks, however. Just like how Ean instinctively took an opening while duelling Baran at Tjaru, the Scarlet Lightning did the same when you deliberately exposed one in a tricky manner.
 

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That's just what I wanted – the next salvo from the warships come at him from behind. The red frame is pinned down by the covering fire, being forced to halt its movement or risk getting melted into slag. I charge towards it, drawing my mono-molecular dagger as I do so. With Anhur's one good hand, I make an overhand swing down at the enemy... leaving my side exposed. The Scarlet Lightning takes the opportunity, as if on instinct. I was counting on that too. I fire my thrusters up to full throttle, using my verniers to accelerate my swing. This time, finally, I take him by surprise. Even then, he tries to dodge – my dagger cuts through his arm as he does so, sending the beam saber whirling off as he loses his grip on it. Shooting from an impossible position, the Scarlet Lightning fires his beam rifle, taking off my right leg before I can follow up on my attack. This is not good – it's taking all I have just to keep up with him. I'm out a hand and a leg, while I've only managed to land one good hit for all my efforts.
Your opponent yells and comes at you again, more ferocious than before. This time, however, you have begun to adapt to his attacks. There is no time to concentrate and use your other powers; you will have to take him down with your physical prowess. You match him blow for blow, your attacks grazing each other as you desperately deflect and strike back with all you have. Dark steel met bright as the speed and strength of the attacks delivered by him and you begin to increase, sending the sand around you flying. From a distance, it looked like a small sandstorm had started up. All of a sudden, you notice an opening on his right. In the fast-paced heat of battle, you instinctively take it before your telepathy can even warn you of the danger – and almost immediately you pay for your mistake. As you slice off his right arm, Baran’s crescent sword comes screaming in from your left and tears your abdomen open, as you step backward just in time to prevent him from cutting you into two at the waist. Your guts spill out into the sand as you scream in pain. Black tentacles shoot from Baran’s arm socket and wrap themselves around your throat. He laughs again, mocking you.
Hmm, yes, wherever did he get that little trick from, I wonder. We'll have to be extra watchful for any hints and clues as to wtf is going on.
Be that as it may, we survived an engagement with Eanette and so did the rest of our team (even the redshirt made it), couldn't as for a better result.

As for the current update, I'm thinking that taking on the escort is the optimal choice: for one, the Rules of Engagement will protect us from some attacks and there's also the small matter of going to Marduk's Navel is rather predictable, as the update mentions
If we go on that path, it will not put us much closer to Earth, but it should be safer... as long as the base hasn't been attacked. It is also probably the more predictable route to take.
So let's not make too easy and predictable a target of ourselves, eh?
 

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Hmm, yes, wherever did he get that little trick from, I wonder. We'll have to be extra watchful for any hints and clues as to wtf is going on.
Be that as it may, we survived an engagement with Eanette and so did the rest of our team (even the redshirt made it), couldn't as for a better result.
Pretty obvious that she's the same as us, only she picked fire. That's where her combat instinct is from and where her mech strengthening is from. Treave described both of those as fire powers. (Though why she can't didn't turn her rifle into a mega particle beam is unknown.) She may even be the "sister" Keiko spoke of. It would explain why she couldn't meet with us back then.

One thing is certain, we need backup if we're going to face her again. She has a timer of 15 minutes, we have only ten.

Voting A. B would be viable if we had picked B2 and saved the serum, but as it stands we can't afford another engagement with the Ace on our own and I think that's just what will happen should we pick B. She's fought us and knows we think outside the box. The enemy will probably send the Fangs to the ISC base and the Ace will follow the other route.

There's only one thing that could make B a better choice: treave, do we know if any cultists are on board the refugee ship?
 

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Good question, but you don't really know. The cult can be everywhere. Since you guys already think the Scarlet Lightning is probably with the cult, why not just meet up with her again? :troll:
 

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Ok, I'll put it this way: will we have opportunities to interact with the crew of the refugee ship in person at all? Or is linking up the ships, or activating a transporter beam, or whatever not possible in this situation?
 

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They would extend an invitation for the crew of the Kaguya-hime to go over and have tea in thanks for your escort, as regular spacer courtesy in this situation. Yes, there'll be chances to interact with the refugee ship in person.
 

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Hmm, yes, wherever did he get that little trick from, I wonder. We'll have to be extra watchful for any hints and clues as to wtf is going on.
Be that as it may, we survived an engagement with Eanette and so did the rest of our team (even the redshirt made it), couldn't as for a better result.
Pretty obvious that she's the same as us, only she picked fire. That's where her combat instinct is from and where her mech strengthening is from. Treave described both of those as fire powers. (Though why she can't didn't turn her rifle into a mega particle beam is unknown.) She may even be the "sister" Keiko spoke of. It would explain why she couldn't meet with us back then.

One thing is certain, we need backup if we're going to face her again. She has a timer of 15 minutes, we have only ten.

Voting A. B would be viable if we had picked B2 and saved the serum, but as it stands we can't afford another engagement with the Ace on our own and I think that's just what will happen should we pick B. She's fought us and knows we think outside the box. The enemy will probably send the Fangs to the ISC base and the Ace will follow the other route.

There's only one thing that could make B a better choice: treave, do we know if any cultists are on board the refugee ship?
No, I think it's the opposite. treave discussion about engagements with civilians makes me feel confident it will be the white fangs that engage us with B, since as someone already noted they're outside of the regular military's regulations and could easily fit the role of space pirates. A on the other hand will likely have the Scarlet Lightning since it'd be a regular engagement.

That, or the REFUGEES are mixed with the Dunamis and they attack us when we meet them for tea whilst their brethren launch an attack on us from the flank!

Also, I'm so glad we chose B1 over anything else. Really was the best decision by the sounds of it. Something you flower junkies might want to consider is we might be able to resupply on ingredients with A

Voting B
 

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Pretty obvious that she's the same as us, only she picked fire. That's where her combat instinct is from and where her mech strengthening is from. Treave described both of those as fire powers. (Though why she can't didn't turn her rifle into a mega particle beam is unknown.) She may even be the "sister" Keiko spoke of. It would explain why she couldn't meet with us back then.
Yes, she's Dante to our Vergil, but she's not the cult's leader; the leader is another person entirely
Background

The Apostles of Hiranyagarbha were founded in 4007 A.C. as a more moderate offshoot of the Tenchishinri. The founding leader of the Apostles is the Great Mother Saeko Wakayama, a Higashi citizen that was formerly a high ranking member in the inner circle of the Tenchishinri.
and wouldn't be lulzing around in a war; and, yeah, it's pretty obvious why and how she's that good, treave already provided the meta. My problem here is that I cannot quite figure out where did our powers come from and who is behind all this (although I do have several ideas, most of which were already posted), hence keeping our eyes out for any clues in the near future.

As for the refugee ships, it may be that they're a decoy sent to lure us into a trap (we're not the only tactical genius around, I'm sure), but I seriously doubt it. More likely than not, they are just refugees from one colony or another asking for an escort. Hence, we should oblige them and keep our eyes peeled.

The Scarlet Lightning knows we're a creative fighter, yes, but so do we now; and Senya is slowly starting to get the hang of his CF and powers, we won't be as fucked in our next meeting if we keep our wits about us.
 

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Do we know where they are refugee's from?

Tanemura, a small Higashi colony off Sun L4. Though the UNS has offered their word they will be unharmed, some of the colonists have decided to return to Earth anyway and hired a freighter to shuttle them back.

Space is a bit messy, with nations just building willy-nilly around the L points with little regard for boundaries. We need a world government of some sort...
 

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Flopping to Bandwagon.

The first Inanna flowers are successfully grown on modified soil on the moon.
We need the flowers to make our serum and B offers 2 possible ways to get them.
 

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