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[LP CYOA] Spiral

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Sep 22, 2014.

  1. The whole killing herself thing may have been the equivelent.

    Alternatively, it could have something to do with the last puzzle - it DID say we were dragging along pieces of their souls. Perhaps this is just a piece of Maeda, or perhaps we are connected somehow and that is why she can see Ei - because she, or at least a part of her - is connected to us.
     
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  2. Kz3r0 Arcane Sad Loser

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    Nami-san, Yukina-san?
    Well, makes sense, at first she was afraid of us, then probably thought that we were some important guy visiting the mansion, after seeing she was wrong used the normal san, now she wants us to pick vegetables with her, Shinoseki beta nature strikes again, from feared rapist and respected notable to bossed around wimp in half a day.
    I guess not having been took for a wimp from the get go is a progress.
     
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  3. Nevill Arcane

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    That would be a start. We have a good reason!

    What do you suggest, giving her a scare? I guess we can always channel the other guy if he's here. The village is clearly not real and won't be missed. :M

    Were we ever? I think we have always pushed back whenever pressed and made our opinion known even when the situation didn't call for it.

    But you are just poking fun at poor old Shino, aren't you?
     
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  4. Kz3r0 Arcane Sad Loser

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    I like him, but having two Meda bossing us around is a bit too much, he should wave his dick around, it worked the first time.
     
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  5. Nevill Arcane

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    Well, good thing it's only one Maeda who tries that, and she does that with everyone. :lol:

    Our promise to Yukina was our own doing, and it is the only thing that forces our hand here. The girl is too timid to do it herself.

    Though I laughed a bit at how she inserted herself in our conversation with Nami. Is she getting jealous? That'd be unexpected.
     
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  6. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Our beta status will be taken care of one we Nii-san some demons in the face. Then we will be recognized as the master of PUA we really are.
    And that is a bad thing how? But then again:
    Did our Master lose his eye to a jealously possessive snake demon?
     
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  7. Grimgravy Cipher Patron

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    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire
    B - promises are promises
     
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  8. treave Arcane Patron

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    He gave it to her as a memento, something to remember him by. Besides the baby. :M
     
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  9. Baltika9 Arcane

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    *gasp*
    Baby Zhang!
    :love:
    Could I we get another Gaiden whenever you get a chance?
     
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  10. Nevill Arcane

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    Another what? Zhang? Baby? Gaiden? I can get behind any of those! :bounce:

    On an unrelated note, does anyone suspect that Yukina's health condition might be due to some supernatural shenanigans? I don't know, maybe the spirit of her mother comes to her at nights or something. :roll: She seems kind of eager to have us at her side, and that looks weird considering the circumstances of our meeting and how long we know each other. :|
     
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  11. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Yeah, that. Smartphone shenanigans.
     
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  12. Nevill Arcane

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    Sakimura Gaiden based on the Elder's legends about oni. With the ancestors of the main cast in leading roles... and Zhang's progeny as an arch-nemesis. :?
    [​IMG]
     
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  13. treave Arcane Patron

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    You're playing one. :M

    You should take better care of her. :M
     
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  14. Baltika9 Arcane

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    You mean we're the descendant of Lord Zhang and the Yamato-no-Orochi?
    :bounce:
     
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  15. Nevill Arcane

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    It is a bad sign when I can't determine whether you are being serious or not. Even with the parrots.

    I mean, sure, we just have forgone a 'real' character in favor of a virtual one. I guess that's something to laugh at. But... eh, we'll see how it goes.
     
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  16. What is real? You yourself just questioned if Maeda was real. What if neither of them are? What if both of them are?
     
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    Yeah, not the best choice of words. I guess it is better to say that one has a direct relationship to the 'core cast' (if only by being a carbon copy of a character), whom we know to be 'mostly alive', and the other is very tangentially related to the plot that is occuring 100 years from now, and is long dead in 'our' timeline. Given how we thought the events in Ikei to be the more important ones that can yet be altered, unlike the past, it is understandable for us to consider them more real than others.

    But we have already decided to treat this world as a real one the moment we didn't go conduct the investigation naked. And, well, if it were real I just can't bring myself to spurn a woman who was so kind to us. How many people do we know that would lend their last shirt to a stranger who barged naked into their house? Let alone to the one that has Shinoseki's charisma and ability to win people over. :lol:

    My biggest concerns are twofold. First, can we make a difference in this bubble world, can we change anything substantial, can we make things less (or with our luck, even more) horrific than they were in our reality? Gathering information is one thing, but can we affect the 'world' in a meaningful way? And second - if we can indeed do this, if we can change the course of the 'world's' history, does it bring us closer to the fulfilment of Seiji's plans? It only makes sense to alter things if we plan to do something to make the changes stick - which would involve the bubble overtaking reality from what IAE papers seem to claim. So grabbing whomever we can and making a run for it might no longer be a valid answer if we decide to go that road.
     
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  18. Kz3r0 Arcane Sad Loser

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    If is a Quantum Simulation of course.
    If is Time Travel even more so.
    If is the Spectral Plane it's like some kind of exorcism, so yes.
    Quantum is all about exchange of informations.
    And from the 'zodiac' puzzle we know that by gathering informations we are establishing some kind of connection, being quantic, spiritual or both is to be ascertained.
    Doubtful, of Fox Guy/Baron more probably, he is the one that sent us here after all.
    The Twelve have been forcefully inserted by Evil Seiji in the Experiment, so taking them out could be what Juuzo wants, the problem is that their role seems to be sacrifices to further Evil Seiji's agenda.
    Undoing the evil of the past as we can and collapsing the bubble are the only wayv to get the best ending here.
    In short:
    Redress as best as we can what the Baron did.
    Collapse the Quantum Bubble.
    Take over the Ritual from Seiji and save the Twelve.
    Easy peasy.
     
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  19. Nevill Arcane

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    What do you consider a quantum simulation?

    This is some kind of limited approximation of reality in a local point that is carried out through both scientific and supernatural means. We can interact with it, but whether we can make ripples that would be felt 100 years from now is an open question. After all, even time travel theories include one that presents the world state as something inertial that glosses over any attempts to make changes to it.

    This was the thing that interested me most once I imagined our predicament as a simulation. What if Maeda Keiji is born to different parents? What if he is never born at all? Can we make it so? Will the other fill in those shoes? Will it make it any better if they do or don't? And what happens if the world in the bubble goes completely out of sync with the external one?

    I feel like a monkey who got into a nuclear silo's command room. The probability that we can guess the access code and anything at all happens is miniscule, but on the off-chance it does happen... maybe it would be better if we didn't touch anything? :?

    He is likely the 'guardian spirit' the Elder mentioned. I have a feeling that he is fine with any resolution, as long as there is one.

    My understanding is that if the bubble collapses, so will any changes we made while inside.

    That's what I am talking about. Our grasp of the situation is very crude and incomplete, but there are two vague ways to end this that I see:

    - To abort the Experiment and hopefully get the twelve or however many we can out. This seems to be in line with Juuzo's wishes, except that he is under some kind of a deadline due to Chinese watching him and our actions might make him skip it.
    - To proceed with the Experiment that Seiji might have conducted to change the past. I don't like his plans one bit, but it seems that we will have to play along if we go with the 'overwriting reality' route (that's assuming it's even on the table).

    There might be a chance to take over and bend the Experiment to our will, though we still know too little about it.
     
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  20. treave Arcane Patron

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    It's time to put the ol' Shino moves on Yukina, is what I think you guys are saying. :M
     
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  21. Nevill Arcane

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    Depends. Will it close off Maeda romance? It is kind of hard to woo your grand-grand-daughter. Jing would attest to that.

    But we are closer to Cao'er. So maybe it's no big deal. :M

    Keiji is to be born in 1917, though. That's almost 10 years from now. Somehow I doubt Yukina was the mother... or that she even lived that long.
     
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  22. Kz3r0 Arcane Sad Loser

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    Feinmann's diagrams have 'particles' going back in time, hence the so called arrow of time is just the result of statistical probability, if is possible to affect that, tah dah, we are going to father ourselves.
    Considering that a simulation is an approximation by definition is more likely that by better synchronizing with reality is the experiment that is overwritten.
    By observing we are already influencing things, the only way to not 'touch' anything' is by removing ourselves from the bubble, we already did that, remember?
    If the role of the Maiden can be took by a girl is likely that the role of the Guardian Spirit can be took by a man.
    Fox Guy confirmed as the Baron, this also explain the shitty job the Guardian Spirit has done in the last one hundred years.
    Taketatsu used Seiji's alghoritms, Seiji is the officiant and gatekeeper of the ritual that hijacked the experiment, we are him, so we are the key to all this, we have the power but we lack the knowledge.
     
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  23. Nevill Arcane

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    treave, is Yukina's brother alive? I can't remember if it was brought up (and it doesn't help that some updates get edited faster than one can read them).
     
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    B. Promisses
     
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  25. treave Arcane Patron

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    It wasn't mentioned yet.
     
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