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1. A
2. I
- It would be good to know how to add at least.
IV - Put that wisdom stat to good use.
3. C>B - Trying to cancel the autism fish inflicted us with.

Also, I'm glad you guys didn't abandon the girl to our master's whims.

I think everyone assumed he was wise like Zhang, but it turns out he was just an amoral, greedy asshole who was using us as free labor.

He reminds me of Dio's father from JoJo. He probably killed our parents btw.
 

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So, uh, since custom names aren't winning, is anyone willing to flop to 1B: Cloud?
I think everyone assumed he was wise like Zhang, but it turns out he was just an amoral, greedy asshole who was using us as free labor.

He reminds me of Dio's father from JoJo. He probably killed our parents btw.
No. I immediately called him out as a piece of shit before we even met the guy. It was pretty obvious: monotonous task, denial of socialization and regular beatings.
 

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So, uh, since custom names aren't winning, is anyone willing to flop to 1B: Cloud?
Listen, Jack, no one wants to be a cloud.
It kinda bothers me that we don't allow our hunter boi to do frivolous things like a child should. This is why I wanted to smile at the baby so badly, and why I want to choose such a sentimental name for ourselves. It's silly and healthy and will establish a sense of kinship, however loose.

Why the hell is everyone so edgy? Goddamn.
 

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I get ya.

I wanted to as well, but I forgot to check for updates.

Glad we didn't give her up for adoption though.

We need to helicopter parent this poor kid so she doesn't lop off her elf ears in self-hatred or something.

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I wanted to as well, but I forgot to check for updates.
I should have @'et you. Kipeci's treason won't be soon forgotten.
We need to helicopter parent this poor kid so she doesn't lop off her elf ears in self-hatred or something.
Not our Rain. She'll be lopping off other people's ears when we're done with her.
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All the more reason to vote 1B, tho. Just sayin'. +M
 

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I would vote 'Snake', but not Cloud.

Jack is fine for now though. Like the man said, we can change it.
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Damn, lots of different options now.

C - I think we should continue with the term boy now, as neither Jack or Cloud are any good. Us picking a name could be a real defining moment for our character, and we should hold onto that. Come on, Jack is wack.

I + V - We have to learn numbers, and practicing our trapping will be a good way to continue our time spent in the woods learning practical skill, as we will be focusing most of our time on studying and getting more intelligent.

A - We should focus on educating ourselves, as we're always going to be hardy and we were raised as a hunter. Our charisma is already shot, and we'll gain far more in the short term educating ourselves than we will trying to be not retarded.

We should count each time an activity has been mentioned, not the possible combinations Absinthe doesn't seem fair to make it based on combinations, as that completely fucks with the chances of certain activities to win.
 

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I think you guys are sneakily agitating for us to realize that Cloud isn't the worst name that can happen to a boy. >_>

Actually, "Boy" isn't that bad either. Hmm.
 
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Does someone except for Absinthe and myself have an opinion on this?
In particular, because I'm arguing in favour of shoring up a weakness rather than emphasizing a strength (which is always tougher to do), I'd really like to push in favour of charisma. I think that it offers a lot of intangible benefit that you wouldn't see with the Strength/Intelligence boost, especially down the road.
I have been thinking about this for a while, actually, and the decision we have to make between pursuing a generalist vs. specialist path is one that goes beyond this update. This may be a bit on the long side, but please bear with me.

Right now, our character is defined by his hunting skills, well-above-average fortitude, both mental and physical, slightly-above-average physicality, and his repugnant appearance and poor social skills. I think we should double down on our strengths, rather than trying to shore up every weakness, because of the opportunity costs involved: we will have to invest a lot of effort and pass up many opportunities to fix our low Beauty and Charisma scores, opportunities that we could instead invest in becoming an better physical specimen, or developing our mental capacity to match our willpower. In other words, I fear that in trying to become a jack of all trades, master of none will result in a character that is less than the sum of his parts: not particularly good at anything.

While Rain thinks that our character is Superman right now, being able to communicate on a more functional level as she grows up, as well as empathize and understand her emotions will be important. Even if our character is stoic and usually the silent type, whenever he does speak, he should be able to express himself properly.
And then there is Rain to consider. The question we must ask ourselves is this: how can we best contribute to her life and development? You are correct in that she will not view us as a god forever but the bottom line is that we will have to face serious challenges as essentially, a single parent in a not-so-friendly world: we must feed her, clothe her, raise her, arrange for her education and return her to her people. And that's without accounting for the scary tentacle monsters that may or may not be coming for her. I think that we will be better able to serve her by specializing in physical and mental aspects, while letting our charisma suffer. It's not like we are incapable of speech, or of expressing ourselves intelligently (a higher INT may help with that +M), so we'll be able to sell our catches and tinctures, and I don't think that not pursuing C will lead us to not communicating with her at all. We'll still be caring for her while we study or lift.
Poor kid still thinks that this was an accident. Wouldn't hurt to be a bit more wise in the ways of the world through interacting with people.

Don't get me wrong - I get that being smarter has great synergy with the education that Father McClellan is offering, I just think that the intangibles offered by charisma outweigh it.
I think that 3C is not the only option that offers intangible benefits: intelligence also measures a person's ability to think critically (which is useful in hunting and navigating foreign environments, for instance), while strength will make us an even meaner dude than we already are (also useful for hunting and ripping off rapey tentacles, as well as scaring off bozos who want to mess with our baby sister). Also, we are not as naive as we were at five years old and I think that your're taking that snippet out of context. To me, it it describes our character's disenchantment with his master and life in general, and underscores his loss of innocence instead of reaffirming it. I think that we're plenty jaded by this point, and do not tend to trust people easily.

But more than that, a general education will improve our knowledge and understanding of the world, and maybe (hopefully) make it easier to find her people.

I think you guys are sneakily agitating for us to realize that Cloud isn't the worst name that can happen to a boy. >_>
Like Zack. Or Sephiroth. Or Jack.
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Just sayin'.
+M
 

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I don't know what kind of arguments you seek.

I favor specialized builds. I like having strengths and flaws. I don't think any of the directions we can take are critical for handling Rain. Children of both geniuses and popular politicians alike can be unhappy as stats are no substitute for love and care.

I find it refreshing that people give a wide berth to our character on account of him being ugly and seemingly morose. Shoring up a weakness of a Fish character is like trying to make Comrade Bull get smarter; it negates one of the things that make him distinct.

If it were Perception or Agility, I'd be shilling for them hard. Since it's between Strength and Intelligence, I am rather indifferent. I do want our hunter to be different from those educated city folk with books and fancy words none of which could be trusted. :rpgcodex:

Like Zack.
Zak can be a decent name.
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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Does someone except for Absinthe and myself have an opinion on this?
I agree with what you said, which is why we have the same focus, and one of our abilities is the same. I think traps is better than apothecary because we already know traps, and us dabbling in alchemy generalizes us more than traps. So you should change your vote. Plus Cloud is a shitty name.
 

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I think traps is better than apothecary because we already know traps, and us dabbling in alchemy generalizes us more than traps. So you should change your vote.
I was in agreement with you initially, but I have since come around. Let's take a look at what Alchemy offers:
The art of distilling various reagents into useful alchemical compounds which can hurt or help. One of the foundations of scholarly pursuits in the Tower.
let's forget the myriad combat applications this has and think about this: as a hunter, we'll be travelling through the wilderness a lot, which means we'll be able to gather reagents from flora and fauna that we can either sell or turn into even better stuff that we can sell or use. For instance, we can cure our own hides, make medicines, or taxidermy as a side hustle.
TL;DR: I think we definitely ought to invest points in Alchemy, considering our profession.
Plus Cloud is a shitty name.
But the context that we're adopting it in isn't.
It kinda bothers me that we don't allow our hunter boi to do frivolous things like a child should. This is why I wanted to smile at the baby so badly, and why I want to choose such a sentimental name for ourselves. It's silly and healthy and will establish a sense of kinship, however loose.
I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I think taking it as a name (for now at least) will be good for us and Rain. Not to mention that it's adorable as fuck, so stop being so grumpy and flop to 1B. +M
 

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Right now a vote for Traps is just a vote for overspecializing imo. We're going to need to know basic numbers and herbs/medicine in our life. I'm all for developing Traps all the way to Rank 10, but we kinda can't afford to be a guy who can only do Traps and it's way too early to be specializing. This is literally our first build progression vote after chargen. Just to put this all in context, Legend went on for over a thousand pages. We still have a long way to grow. Ergo, we should avail ourselves of the education opportunities at our disposal while we can.
 
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I like neither Jack nor Cloud so let's wait for a better option.

I definitely want alchemy and if we go with it I feel like we have to follow it with A to make up for our lack of education which then naturally leads to arithmetic as the final pick.

Unless we think religious art could take us to something more interesting?

So, I guess for me it's:

C>A>B
II>IV>I>V>III
A>B>C
 

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