Master of Magic unofficial patch

[kyrub]

Re: Great job keep it up!

I was just curious, are you a programmer or is this just your hobby?

Pure hobby. I have no programming background at all, once upon a time I tried to self-learn pascal, very bad at html coding as well. Guess I could do it better in 8086 assembler now, hehe.

I loved math when at school, but I do other things for living. This is a fruit of my math starvation, an ongoing ultra-hard puzzle. IDA rocks.

Also have you played star wars rebellion? It offers multiplayer which is great although the original AI sucks. Maybe you could improve it.

Sorry, can't go the unknown way. It is very hard to disassemble a program with unfamiliar functionnality (see EoFS case). So I focus on a few games I played 10 years ago. Like MoM, MoO, SMAC...

 

[danish]

please post the link to editor that can change unit stats like swords and shields and spell costs and effects.
Can you make such an editor if one doesn't exist already. I know save game editors exist but I'm talking about editing things like what a spell can do , how many figures a paladin unit has, how much mana a spell costs, how much damage a sky drakes breath does, how much mana a node produces, how much adamantium raises your attack by..
Thanks a lot

 

[kyrub]

danish, either you are lazy or you cannot google.
There's a very active MoM community on Realms beyond Orion (or RBO) website, where you can get anything that edits MoM, including the very best ILSE's real time tweaker or the famous joel schlecht's units editor.

As for others...
1) No, I will not make a special modding tool for you.
2) No, I will not make a mod for some SEGA game of your taste.

 

[Trash]

Could you hack the internet and win it for us then? Still playing and enjoying MoM with your patch btw. AI seems to offer much more resistance to me now. Me like.

 

[danish]

Hmm...

 

[kyrub]

1.40k version is out. No big change, just one more than necessary fix.
Usual place: http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4211

Annoying DISPEL bug
which would let your units gain permanent enchantment instead of it being dispelled, is finally fixed.
At least I hope so.

Brothers in MoM, enjoy!

 

[sser]

Probably already answered, but does it gel with the GoG version?

 

[Trash]

Sweet. Kyrub rocks!

 

[Elwro]

Probably already answered, but does it gel with the GoG version?

I installed and used the previous version without any problems. Haven't tried this one yet (travelling). Cheers for Kyrub!

edit: Kyrub, your last link works, but could you also edit the first post of the thread so that the link there doesn't give the 404 error? Thanks!

 

[Elwro]

There seems to be a pathfinding bug - instead of going in straight lines units are always going in L-lines.

Also, I fit my entire 8 unit army onto one trireme.

Loving the game, though!

 

[Ruprekt]

Downloading

 

[kyrub]

There seems to be a pathfinding bug - instead of going in straight lines units are always going in L-lines.

Please, give me a save with the thing. I have had no such reports.

Also, I fit my entire 8 unit army onto one trireme.

Yep. This was THE one necessary game rules correction. The AI sea transport was absolutely messed up. Raising the transport capacity of all vessels was necessary to unlock the AI capacity to load its navy with units. I cannot do better than that. On the other hand, people do not tend to complain, some of them find the change cool. The only real downside is the Floating island spell, which has become even more useless than before.

 

[Elwro]

I agree the trireme change is good, just wasn't sure this was intended.

As for the savegame, I'll do my best, but I'm still travelling (and now writing from a different machine), if you don't hear from me in a few days it will mean you will get the file early October.

Thanks for your great work once again!

 

[Elwro]

OK, this was my mistake. The paths seem to be economical, but they ARE weird. See for yourself:

There is no faster way to the target square, but what's the justification for the chosen route? :D

For example, frequently, when I'd expect my unit to move 3 squares in a straight line, they make one step forward, one diagonal, and one diagonal in the other direction.

Just finished a playthrough using 1.40k. Great fun!

 

[DwarvenFood]

maybe it explores more of the map in that manner ?

 

[Renegen]

There seems to be a pathfinding bug - instead of going in straight lines units are always going in L-lines.

Please, give me a save with the thing. I have had no such reports.

Also, I fit my entire 8 unit army onto one trireme.

Yep. This was THE one necessary game rules correction. The AI sea transport was absolutely messed up. Raising the transport capacity of all vessels was necessary to unlock the AI capacity to load its navy with units. I cannot do better than that. On the other hand, people do not tend to complain, some of them find the change cool. The only real downside is the Floating island spell, which has become even more useless than before.

I liked the Floating Island spell because it provided greater flexibility to Blue magic wizards. Other wizards had real trouble to expand across the sea. Personally, this game alone to triremes makes me stick to vanilla, and I just play with large land masses on.

 

[Elwro]

maybe it explores more of the map in that manner ?

This is a good idea, haven't thought of that. Still, the game works this way even if the whole map is visible, and for this I still don't see a justification...

 

[kyrub]

I liked the Floating Island spell because it provided greater flexibility to Blue magic wizards. Other wizards had real trouble to expand across the sea. Personally, this game alone to triremes makes me stick to vanilla, and I just play with large land masses on.

I understand your stance. This feature is really unfinished and floating island is a bit undervalued (note that it can be moded with one of the game editors, though).

I spent 2-3 weeks while trying to fix AI sailing alone, before I found this solution. It's not ideal, but better (for me) than seeing 7 AI ships glued to the coast with 7 idle stacks unable to get on board. Try running 1.31 game with ALT+RVL cheat and you will see what I mean, land masses are irrelevant.


Elwro: have no exact idea about the guts of pathfinding, pretty compicated algorithms. I'm happy you enjoy the k game!
- Currently, I am helping out with a new, extensive mod for MoM, named Catnip. Hopefully it will come good.

 

[Elwro]

I'm happy you enjoy the k game!
- Currently, I am helping out with a new, extensive mod for MoM, named Catnip. Hopefully it will come good.

Great to hear! It'd be nice if you posted some info here when the thing is completed (or just playable); the game seems to have quite a few players here.

 

[kyrub]

http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4211

1.40l - New version is out!
A lot of changes, big update. New options, some bug fixes, AI advancement. Enjoy!

Version 1.40l
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- [bug] Armaggedon does not destroy all pacifying effects, it just increases rebels by 2
- [bug] ditched all (?) the stupid dispel bugs I've put in the game (please report any further problems with dispels!)
- [bug] AI is now able to create all magical items from the whole power range
- [bug] new items, written by player with use of itemmake.exe, will now have correct book prerequisites



- [game option] new world size, "Huge", is 33% bigger than Large. It creates a huge continent to fight for.
- [game option] new difficulty level "Extreme", same as Impossible, but with 25% lower AI bonuses
- [game option] new choice for magic strength, ranging from 0.5 - 2.5 x normal (strength of lair monsters, the rewards and the mana from nodes)

- AI now tries to protect his fortress with better defense
- AI mercenary hiring decision has notably improved
- AI will occasionnally buy a magical item from the merchant

-it is now impossible to get better hero by reloading before a summon
-it is now impossibe to get better reward from lair by reloading before the battle



- [intfce] all hidden To hit and To defend bonuses are now displayed in the detailed unit infobox.

 

[Elwro]

http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4211

- AI now tries to protect his fortress with better defense
- AI mercenary hiring decision has notably improved
- AI will occasionnally buy a magical item from the merchant

- [intfce] all hidden To hit and To defend bonuses are now displayed in the detailed unit infobox.

I find these changes particularly interesting and needed. Great! Don't know when I'll have time to play with this, but I will :D

 

[Trash]

Those are some pretty amazing changes that should give the AI a much needed boost. Awesome!

 

[Luigi]

Ill just take my hat off to ya, Zen master.

 

[kyrub]

Ill just take my hat off to ya, Zen master.

Before you do, please DOWNLOAD new corrected version 1.40ll. I made a mistake and the previous download crashes at game start.


Link: http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4211
Direct download: http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/attachme ... 1319139965

 

[Thrasher]

http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4211

- AI now tries to protect his fortress with better defense
- AI mercenary hiring decision has notably improved
- AI will occasionnally buy a magical item from the merchant

- [intfce] all hidden To hit and To defend bonuses are now displayed in the detailed unit infobox.

I find these changes particularly interesting and needed. Great! Don't know when I'll have time to play with this, but I will :D