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MetalCraze

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cogar48 said:
The same thing that's wrong with tranny super mutants.
Let's see. Fallout is based on '50s and its common stereotypes and paranoias including that of Rockwell UFO. Thus the rare easter egg.

Tranny supermutant which is one of the easily encountered quests is just dumb lulz. If you can't see the difference - chances are - you are very butthurt about Obsidian sucking.
 

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And you're complaining about a game that hasn't been released yet and you don't have enough information about to know if it has a "well done balance between being serious and funny in different parts of the game"?

You're complaining about Fallout 3 and it wasn't even released! How do you know it will suck????????????
 

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Matt7895 said:
MetalCraze said:
I wonder if Chris will again flip flop from how the game is so cool to "it was totally different from what we wanted to do originally so it sucked!" like it was when AP tanked - if, hopefully, F3NV will tank too

The difference is, Avellone was brought in quite late in the development of AP. He's been with New Vegas from the beginning.

All writing and characters for AP are Avellone's. And they are terrible. And he was very proud of what he did before AP sales went belly up.

Also isn't F3NV Sawyer's originally with Avellone coming in only half a year ago into it?
 

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MetalCraze said:
cogar48 said:
The same thing that's wrong with tranny super mutants.
Tranny supermutant which is one of the easily encountered quests is just dumb lulz.

As is having a character that talks like a retard with lines like "NUNGH". But you don't complain because you're full of shit. You're trying to be edgy, admit it.
 

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FeelTheRads said:
And you're complaining about a game that hasn't been released yet and you don't have enough information about to know if it has a "well done balance between being serious and funny in different parts of the game"?

You're complaining about Fallout 3 and it wasn't even released! How do you know it will suck????????????

A logical position to take. If someone guesses something and it happens that doesn't mean you should always guess. Let's say I were to win a million dollars gambling, that doesn't mean everyone who gambles is going to win a million dollars.
 

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cogar48 said:
As is having a character that talks like a retard with lines like "NUNGH". But you don't complain because you're full of shit. You're trying to be edgy, admit it.
Which happens only when your character has low intelligence which makes perfect sense, when a PC with high intelligence has more "smart" responses. Compare to Baldur's Gate for example, in which PC with low intelligence talks like a average person and in case of high one he can't say nothing really intelligent.
 
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cogar48 said:
Tails said:
cogar48 said:
Yeah, except for the WHOLE questline of FO1 which is about stopping giant super mutants.
:roll:
Part of it was about getting Water Chip with limited time, second was about stopping the Master. I don't see nothing lolzy about that, but keep on trying.

I never said that was lolzy, it's just not serious. At all. Also: More super seriousness of Fallout 1.
It's a situational humour, not lets throw 10 tons of pop culture humour (of which Fallout has only about 1 ton). Anyway, I wish more developers would bother to do stuff like that ( :decline: ). Anyway, it's a natural consequence of allowing the players to lower intelligence below average.

Tails said:
cogar48 said:
BloodyMess.gif
Perk/Trait for super srs hardkore deth animations.
Trait, which also altered the ending of Fallout 1.
I thought the ending was based on Karma?

cogar48 said:
Yeah, except for the WHOLE questline of FO1 which is about stopping giant super mutants.
:roll:
Except that the whole scientific background with FEV, experiments, the Glow, etc. manages to make it serious business.
 

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cogar48 said:
A logical position to take. If someone guesses something and it happens that doesn't mean you should always guess. Let's say I were to win a million dollars gambling, that doesn't mean everyone who gambles is going to win a million dollars.

Considering Obsidian's previous catastrophes and what we've found out from interviews and previews I'd say the chance of Obsidian delivering a piece of shit is slightly bigger than winning 1 million dollars gambling. :roll:

You're just resorting to straw-man arguments because there's nothing else to defend your beloved Obsidian, "admit it".
 

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Awor Szurkrarz said:
I thought the ending was based on Karma?
No, even if you have good karma and Bloody Mess, PC will kill Overseer.
 

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Retard has a difficulty understanding the difference between the game being unserious and the game being retarded.

Guess he didn't put much points into intelligence durr hurr

Also can be Drog which is the same
 

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Tails said:
cogar48 said:
As is having a character that talks like a retard with lines like "NUNGH". But you don't complain because you're full of shit. You're trying to be edgy, admit it.
Which happens only when your character has low intelligence which makes perfect sense, when a PC with high intelligence has more "smart" responses. Compare to Baldur's Gate for example, in which PC with low intelligence talks like a average person and in case of high one he can't say nothing really intelligent.

Even retards can say more than "NUNGH", it should've been like it's going to be in FO:NV, you don't grunt you just don't understand or catch on to things. They did it for lulz. It's extremely obvious when you watch the talking heads retard sequences. "JUST GIVE ME THE CHIP" "Go to the library and rest for a while."
 

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FeelTheRads said:
cogar48 said:
A logical position to take. If someone guesses something and it happens that doesn't mean you should always guess. Let's say I were to win a million dollars gambling, that doesn't mean everyone who gambles is going to win a million dollars.

Considering Obsidian's previous catastrophes and what we've found out from interviews and previews I'd say the chance of Obsidian delivering a piece of shit is slightly bigger than winning 1 million dollars gambling. :roll:

You're just resorting to straw-man arguments because there's nothing else to defend your beloved Obsidian, "admit it".

Yes, I LOVE Obsidian. :roll: . I just don't have retarded double standards like you guys.

Fun fact: Fallout has never been serious, it's never tried to be serious, and never will be serious, you all take it way too seriously.

Another fun fact: I never liked the silliness of Fallout, I just like consistency, and you guys are acting like raving fanboy idiots: "Fallout haz alienz it's clevur easter egg reference to roswell" "Fallout has epic deth animations super srsness best game all time" "Fallout 3 is just about asplosions and exploding heads"
 

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MetalCraze said:
All writing and characters for AP are Avellone's.

No. All of Scarlet's dialouges were written by Mitsoda, apparently, and Avellone didn't do all of the writing. Stop the lies, start the truths. This has even been stated in threads you've written in FFS
 

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Radisshu said:
No. All of Scarlet's dialouges were written by Mitsoda, apparently, and Avellone didn't do all of the writing. Stop the lies, start the truths. This has even been stated in threads you've written in FFS
None of Mitsoda work was used in AP (it was completely scraped), which Mitsoda himself stated few times if I recall good.
 

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FeelTheRads said:
"Fallout 3 is just about asplosions and exploding heads"

Is it about anything else?

Not really. It's mostly about that and a weak combination of Fallout 1 and 2's stories. I don't like Fallout 3, but as I said, I like consistency. If you're going to complain about silliness in one game don't defend it in another.
 

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There are different types of "silliness" and there are different ways and places to use it. In no way the silliness of Fallout 1 (or even 2) comes even close to that of Fallout 3 and by the way it looks NV tends to be more like Fallout 3 than like Fallout 1 & 2. In Fallout 1 the silliness is mostly easter eggs. Fallout 3 is full retard by comparison.
 

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FeelTheRads said:
There are different types of "silliness" and there are different ways and places to use it. In no way the silliness of Fallout 1 (or even 2) comes even close to that of Fallout 3 and by the way it looks NV tends to be more like Fallout 3 than like Fallout 1 & 2. In Fallout 1 the silliness is mostly easter eggs. Fallout 3 is full retard by comparison.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxr0hYef ... re=related

I agree.
 

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MetalCraze said:
cogar48 said:
The same thing that's wrong with tranny super mutants.
Let's see. Fallout is based on '50s and its common stereotypes and paranoias including that of Rockwell UFO. Thus the rare easter egg.

Tranny supermutant which is one of the easily encountered quests is just dumb lulz. If you can't see the difference - chances are - you are very butthurt about Obsidian sucking.

Let's see. New Vegas is based on Las Vegas and its common stereotypes, including those of sexual deviancy and prostitution. Trannies in Las Vegas? OMG. LORE RAPE!11!!!1
 

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I know it's irrelevant, but Chris got to be gay, right? :oops:
 

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