Interview MCA on Fallout: New Vegas

[FeelTheRads]

Let's see. New Vegas is based on Las Vegas and its common stereotypes, including those of sexual deviancy and prostitution. Trannies in Las Vegas? OMG. LORE RAPE!11!!!1

I don't see what you did there...

 

[Roguey]

Good sir, I truly hope this work of art answers all your questions about what I think about Sawyer's rendition of his Fallout dream

I see a woman who went crazy from her transformation into a super mutant and decided to put on a silly wig and glasses to make herself feel more feminine. Allegedly she won't even wear them (and you won't see any other ridiculous things) if you don't take the Wild Wasteland trait at the beginning. Not seeing the big deal..?

Though it is a shame that Chris ""it's a design directive here at Obsidian that we don't do in-jokes or cultural references" Avellone is apparently going back on his word yet again (e.g. the whip and fedora in the refrigerator). It's the principle.

 

[FeelTheRads]

see a woman who went crazy from her transformation into a super mutant and decided to put on a silly wig and glasses to make herself feel more feminine.

Actually, isn't that really a male mutant?

Allegedly she won't even wear them (and you won't see any other ridiculous things) if you don't take the Wild Wasteland trait at the beginning. Not seeing the big deal..?

Well, that would be something, at least.

 

[MetalCraze]

It isn't a woman. It's male

Let's see. New Vegas is based on Las Vegas and its common stereotypes, including those of sexual deviancy and prostitution. Trannies in Las Vegas? OMG. LORE RAPE!11!!!1

Yeah Las Vegas with its shining lights and casinos and cowboys beating everyone with boxing gloves in between groin shots with a golf club sure fits Fallout's 50s sci fi PA setting.
Like New Reno did with its mafia.
What's worse is that Obsidian are basically ripping off New Reno from Fallout 2. Not a bit of creativity

 

[Radisshu]

No. All of Scarlet's dialouges were written by Mitsoda, apparently, and Avellone didn't do all of the writing. Stop the lies, start the truths. This has even been stated in threads you've written in FFS

None of Mitsoda work was used in AP (it was completely scraped), which Mitsoda himself stated few times if I recall good.

I remember reading all of the dialouges with Scarlet were written by Mitsoda, I think Avellone said so in an interview.

 

[MetalCraze]

Any characters I’m attributed with creating bear only a superficial resemblance to the ones in my original story

So sorry. Chris sucks at being Kill Bill.

 

[Radisshu]

It isn't a woman. It's male

wtf stop the lies etc FFS r00fles


BRO J:E SAYER SAID SHE WAS FEMALE B4 THE TRANDFORMATION STOP MKIN SHIT UP YOUR SO FULL OF SITH IS NOT EVEN FUNNY LOl



http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/t ... ry15974131

Before being dipped in the vats, Tabitha was a female human. She continues to self-identify as female. Descriptions of her as being "in drag" are not accurate; FEV transforms female humans in the same way as male humans, leaving their appearance very similar.

Any characters I’m attributed with creating bear only a superficial resemblance to the ones in my original story

So sorry. Chris sucks at being Kill Bill.

http://forums.obsidian.net/index.php?au ... wentry=122

Begin credits: Before jumping into a rundown of the rest of the Alpha Protocol process, to give credit where credit is due: the first and second draft of the character concepts and a chunk of the tone direction for those characters were done before I started on the project - they were done by Brian Mitsoda (Brian also developed the concept of the real-time dialogue system, and Dan Spitzley implemented it, although parts of it have been... touched… in inappropriate ways by the programming team) and Annie Carlson did writing for a number of the characters. Some of Brian's dialogues are intact (Scarlet Lake)

oh shi

 

[MetalCraze]

Looks like Sawyer decided to backpedal from his tranny idea huh

Begin credits: Before jumping into a rundown of the rest of the Alpha Protocol process, to give credit where credit is due: the first and second draft of the character concepts and a chunk of the tone direction for those characters were done before I started on the project - they were done by Brian Mitsoda (Brian also developed the concept of the real-time dialogue system, and Dan Spitzley implemented it, although parts of it have been... touched… in inappropriate ways by the programming team) and Annie Carlson did writing for a number of the characters. Some of Brian's dialogues are intact (Scarlet Lake)

oh shi

Sorry. Chris has proven himself to be quite a liar with AP so I'm inclined to believe Mitsoda

 

[Radisshu]

Looks like Sawyer decided to backpedal from his tranny idea huh

Looks like you're full of shit

Looks like Sawyer decided to backpedal from his tranny idea huh

Begin credits: Before jumping into a rundown of the rest of the Alpha Protocol process, to give credit where credit is due: the first and second draft of the character concepts and a chunk of the tone direction for those characters were done before I started on the project - they were done by Brian Mitsoda (Brian also developed the concept of the real-time dialogue system, and Dan Spitzley implemented it, although parts of it have been... touched… in inappropriate ways by the programming team) and Annie Carlson did writing for a number of the characters. Some of Brian's dialogues are intact (Scarlet Lake)

oh shi

Sorry. Chris has proven himself to be quite a liar with AP so I'm inclined to believe Mitsoda

Oh COME ONE, why the fuck would he lie about that? Do you think anyone would care if Scarlet's dialouges were Mitsoda's or MCA's? Mitsoda probably just believed all of his stuff had been removed from the game when it hadn't.

You're such an idiot, skyway, you really are.

 

[MetalCraze]

Or someone is just a blind Obsidian fanboy

One of the very first previews:

If the long-haired wig and red women’s eyeglasses didn’t tip you off before, you learn here that Tabitha is neither human nor female: “she” is actually a male Super Mutant gone completely insane

http://www.oxmonline.com/article/previe ... page=0%2C5

LOL DUM JEWRNALISTS GOT IT ALL ROOOONG!

 

[Silellak]

Looks like Sawyer decided to backpedal from his tranny idea huh

Looks like you're full of shit

Or someone is just a blind Obsidian fanboy

One of the very first previews:

If the long-haired wig and red women’s eyeglasses didn’t tip you off before, you learn here that Tabitha is neither human nor female: “she” is actually a male Super Mutant gone completely insane

http://www.oxmonline.com/article/previe ... page=0%2C5

LOL DUM JEWRNALISTS GOT IT ALL ROOOONG!

Oh cool, we trust gaming journalists now. I didn't get that memo.

 

[Radisshu]

Or someone is just a blind Obsidian fanboy

One of the very first previews:

If the long-haired wig and red women’s eyeglasses didn’t tip you off before, you learn here that Tabitha is neither human nor female: “she” is actually a male Super Mutant gone completely insane

http://www.oxmonline.com/article/previe ... page=0%2C5

LOL DUM JEWRNALISTS GOT IT ALL ROOOONG!

Yes, because video game journalists ALWAYS GETS THINGS RIGHT, ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MetalCraze]

Yes, because video game journalists ALWAYS GETS THINGS RIGHT, ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh cool, we trust gaming journalists now. I didn't get that memo.

Ah sorry I forgot. We trust them only when they say good things about Obsidian. I guess with how it's worded ("you learn here" aka through dialogue about a mutant going insane) here they've just made the stuff up to make New Vegas look bad. Dum dum journalists.

Funny how this Radisshu moron never had a problem with believing that mininukes and healing toilets are in in Failout 3 because it was Beth.

 

[Radisshu]

Oh cool, we trust gaming journalists now. I didn't get that memo.

Ah sorry I forgot. We trust them only when they say good things about Obsidian. I guess with how it's worded ("you learn here" aka through dialogue about a mutant going insane) here they've just made the stuff up to make New Vegas look bad. Dum dum journalists.

1.

Journalist says the super mutant is a tranny
Dev says the super mutant is female

Ok, let's believe the journalist lol!!!!!

2.

Brian Mitsoda says all of his stuff got removed from AP
MCA says some of Mitsoda's stuff is still in the game

Scenario A: One of them is LYING, for no reason what-so-fucking-ever

Scenario B: It's a misunderstanding

YEAH, OF COURSE WE PICK A, I MEAN DUH

Conclusion: Skyway is banal, shit, boring

 

[Felix]

The Codex is too predictable these days.

Conclusion: Skyway is banal, shit, boring

Do you really need conclusion? he's always banal, shit, boring. Also the Space Marine thread is a fine example of double standard.

 

[MetalCraze]

Journalist says the super mutant is a tranny
Dev says the super mutant is female

No. As I've said Obsidian just backpedalled from the tranny idea and decided to make her a female because of all the baaaawww on the forums. It's too different from what Sawyer says to be a misunderstanding, like a totally different design choice.

Scenario A: One of them is LYING, for no reason what-so-fucking-ever

Chris lied during AP development all the time after all. "Oh good this game is totally what we wanted it's so cool we're kill bill" - AP flops - "ZOMG it's totally what we didn't want it sucks forget about it!"
Then again he says that only some of the dialogue was kept, meaning that Scarlet has only some of Mitsoda's dialogue, not the whole.

Scenario B: It's a misunderstanding

Actually it sounded like you were saying that Mitsoda didn't know what he's talking about at all.

Conclusion: Skyway is banal, shit, boring

Or somebody is very butthurt about Obsidian sucking. It works both ways ya know

 

[Radisshu]

No. As I've said Obsidian just backpedalled from the tranny idea and decided to make her a female because of all the baaaawww on the forums. It's too different from what Sawyer says to be a misunderstanding, like a totally different design choice.

It's not impossible that she was supposed to be a tranny originally, but facts remain: the journalists assumed Tabitha was a tranny, and devs have stated she isn't. Those are the facts.

Chris lied during AP development all the time after all. "Oh good this game is totally what we wanted it's so cool we're kill bill" - AP flops - "ZOMG it's totally what we didn't want it sucks forget about it!"
Then again he says that only some of the dialogue was kept, meaning that Scarlet has only some of Mitsoda's dialogue, not the whole.

So you thought MCA thought people would blame him or Obsidian less for AP's financial and critical failure if he said some of the dialogues from some guy only Bloodlines fans and Codexers know about were still in the game?

Scenario B: It's a misunderstanding

Actually it sounded like you were saying that Mitsoda didn't know what he's talking about at all.

I was saying that Mitsoda probably thought they had removed his stuff, when they hadn't.

Conclusion: Skyway is banal, shit, boring

Or somebody is very butthurt about Obsidian sucking. It works both ways ya know

I'm not an Obsidian fanboy, I just happen to like AP. Didn't play Kotor 2, didn't like NWN2, didn't like SoZ.

Others on the forum have criticized it in a non-retarded way, though, which I don't mind at all. You should try it some time. It makes you seem less, hm, what do they call it? Ah, retarded.

 

[Felix]

Skyway doesn't know what butthurt mean

 

[MetalCraze]

It's not impossible that she was supposed to be a tranny originally, but facts remain: the journalists assumed Tabitha was a tranny, and devs have stated she isn't. Those are the facts.

Journalists don't assume things in Zenimax (EA/Ubi/younameit) games. In previews they write what they are being told to write.
Obsidian scrapped AP writing and chars, so they could do it to a single one in F3NV - I'm not denying that. Tabitha still looks retarded though.

So you thought MCA thought people would blame him or Obsidian less for AP's financial and critical failure if he said some of the dialogues from some guy only Bloodlines fans and Codexers know about were still in the game?

It can be anything. But there is the fact that Chris tried to avoid the blame for AP's horrible failure by doing a complete 180 turn. So it can be anything.

I was saying that Mitsoda probably thought they had removed his stuff, when they hadn't.

Actually he said that characters remained but bear only a superficial resemblance. Maybe a name or a bunch of lines (looks were totally changed though) - so it can be anything.

I'm not an Obsidian fanboy, I just happen to like AP. Didn't play Kotor 2, didn't like NWN2, didn't like SoZ.

It took just one game for that Felix guy too. Not mentioning that you seem to have double standards about F3NV which is just as bad as F3. I guess it isn't Obsidian. It's Avellone people are fanboying about.

Others on the forum have criticized it in a non-retarded way, though, which I don't mind at all. You should try it some time. It makes you seem less, hm, what do they call it? Ah, retarded.

Sorry man. It wasn't me who rushed in here baaawing about me even though I had something to back up my claims too. I didn't even post much in this thread before a couple of butthurt people showed up.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Skyway doesn't know what butthurt mean

You seem to be very butthurt about skyway, though.

And a pretty dumb guy overall, too.

It's not impossible that she was supposed to be a tranny originally, but facts remain: the journalists assumed Tabitha was a tranny, and devs have stated she isn't. Those are the facts.

I remember they only said it wasn't a tranny when there was all that retardation about Obsidian not being politically correct about trannies and that through Tabitha they're attacking the values of tranny-ism or some shit like that.

 

[Felix]

One more dumb person doesn't know what butthurt mean.

 

[Radisshu]

It's not impossible that she was supposed to be a tranny originally, but facts remain: the journalists assumed Tabitha was a tranny, and devs have stated she isn't. Those are the facts.

Journalists don't assume things in Zenimax (EA/Ubi/younameit) games. In previews they write what they are being told to write.
Obsidian scrapped AP writing and chars, so they could do it to a single one in F3NV - I'm not denying that. Tabitha still looks retarded though.

Apparently the wig/glasses combo only comes with the "Wild Wasteland" trait, though?

So you thought MCA thought people would blame him or Obsidian less for AP's financial and critical failure if he said some of the dialogues from some guy only Bloodlines fans and Codexers know about were still in the game?

It can be anything. But there is the fact that Chris tried to avoid the blame for AP's horrible failure by doing a complete 180 turn. So it can be anything.

He obviously did try to backpedal on the "OH WE SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THIS ETC" stuff, you're right, but the Mitsoda thing doesn't fit that pattern.

I was saying that Mitsoda probably thought they had removed his stuff, when they hadn't.

Actually he said that characters remained but bear only a superficial resemblance. Maybe a name or a bunch of lines (looks were totally changed though) - so it can be anything.

Still, according to certain sources, some dialouges were left unchanged.

I'm not an Obsidian fanboy, I just happen to like AP. Didn't play Kotor 2, didn't like NWN2, didn't like SoZ.

It took just one game for that Felix guy too. Not mentioning that you seem to have double standards about F3NV which is just as bad as F3. I guess it isn't Obsidian. It's Avellone people are fanboying about.

Nah, I'm an AP fanboy, doesn't make me an Obsidian or Avellone fanboy in general. Get your logics right mang. I haven't played New Vegas yet, and I'm getting mixed signals about it, so I won't comment on that. You should stop saying "X is just as bad as/isn't as good as Y" when X hasn't even been released yet, it just makes you look stupid.

Others on the forum have criticized it in a non-retarded way, though, which I don't mind at all. You should try it some time. It makes you seem less, hm, what do they call it? Ah, retarded.

Sorry man. It wasn't me who rushed in here baaawing about me even though I had something to back up my claims too. I didn't even post much in this thread before a couple of butthurt people showed up.

We both had sources, but you analyzed yours st00pidly. Get your act together, you've become a parody of yourself.

Skyway doesn't know what butthurt mean

You seem to be very butthurt about skyway, though.

And a pretty dumb guy overall, too.

It's not impossible that she was supposed to be a tranny originally, but facts remain: the journalists assumed Tabitha was a tranny, and devs have stated she isn't. Those are the facts.

I remember they only said it wasn't a tranny when there was all that retardation about Obsidian not being politically correct about trannies and that through Tabitha they're attacking the values of tranny-ism or some shit like that.

Point is, do you remember them ever saying it was a tranny?

 

[Volrath]

Looks like Sawyer decided to backpedal from his tranny idea huh

Looks like you're full of shit

Shocking revelation

 

[Jack]

Are you guys seriously arguing so much about if a super mutant is a tranny or not?
Jeez, and here I thought I had problems...

Just get a room and fuck already.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

What's worse is that Obsidian are basically ripping off New Reno from Fallout 2.

which sucks because Fallout 2 sucks now, amirite? gotta stay hardkkkore, bro!

Not a bit of creativity

lol