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Interview More Bethesda PR bullshit

Vault Dweller

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Tags: Bethesda Softworks; Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

Bethesda's hype machine shifts into high gear, spreading <a href=http://www.psu.com/node/8075>misinformation</a> all over the internet.
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<blockquote><b>Can you give us a quick overview for any Oblivion virgins out there?</b>
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Pete Hines: Oblivion is basically a big fantasy sandbox. It's a roleplaying game where we put you into this huge fantasy world and you get to decide what kind of character you want to play and where you want to go. <u>It's very much a game where the player get's to decide what their story is going to be. We let you pick and choose your path through the game and consequently it's a different experience for everyone who plays it.</u> It's this freedom that has made Oblivion so successful to date.</blockquote>Wait, so it's not an uber linear game where your actions don't affect the story at all?
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<blockquote><b>Is the freedom the only thing that differentiates it from other RPGs?</b>
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Pete Hines: Visually it's a pretty stunning game. We do some things graphically that not just other RPGs but other games don't do. The combat system works well. There's an organic sense that you get from the NPCs because of the AI system we use to move them around the world in a way that feels very realistic - <u>for example they stop and have conversations with each other. Oblivion does really well because all the constituent parts have been produced brilliantly by some really talented people</u>.</blockquote>I saw a mudcrab the other day!
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<blockquote><b>What's Bethesda's next project for PS3?</b>
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Pete Hines: We recently announced we were doing Rogue Warrior, which is our return to first person shooters which we haven't done since back in the nineties with some of the Terminator games we did.</blockquote>What do you think Oblivion was then?
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Lumpy

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What's the point of having 6 or 7 interviews on the main page about a game which has been released for one year, and is considered by many here a FPS and not an RPG?
No, really.
 

Slith

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Lumpy said:
What's the point of having 6 or 7 interviews on the main page about a game which has been released for one year, and is considered by many here a FPS and not an RPG?
No, really.

Seriously, does it matter? You guys complain too fucking much. Waaaah there's too much Oblivion. Waaaaah the ESF posters are dumb. Waaaaaah Volourn got banned for being a dumbass.

Jesus, if you hate the articles and discussions going on here, then why the fuck aren't you starting up your own threads? Or even better, just plain leaving? Whining and bitching and moaning about it isn't going to change anything. Put some effort into it, or stick a foot in your mouth.
 

obediah

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Slith said:
Lumpy said:
What's the point of having 6 or 7 interviews on the main page about a game which has been released for one year, and is considered by many here a FPS and not an RPG?
No, really.

Seriously, does it matter? You guys complain too fucking much. Waaaah there's too much Oblivion. Waaaaah the ESF posters are dumb. Waaaaaah Volourn got banned for being a dumbass.

Jesus, if you hate the articles and discussions going on here, then why the fuck aren't you starting up your own threads? Or even better, just plain leaving? Whining and bitching and moaning about it isn't going to change anything. Put some effort into it, or stick a foot in your mouth.

Go back into the ESF fagG0t furry hole from whence you came. It's time we left the half-implemented and fully dead horse corpse of oblivion rot.
 

suibhne

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It's news. We put up news. If you don't want to read this particular news, don't read it. :wink:
 

Vault Dweller

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obediah said:
It's time we left the half-implemented and fully dead horse corpse of oblivion rot.
Tell that to Pete. Would you like to have his email?
 

Bloodlust

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post it here so we can subscribe him for some penis enlargment pills and gay porn :P
 

Section8

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post it here so we can unsubscribe him for some penis enlargment pills and gay porn

Fixed.

But anyway, that interview is pretty sickening, and I hope that the devs don't buy into the same shit.

PSU: Do you utilise the Sixaxis' motion sensitive capabilities at all?

Hines: No we don't. We talked about it briefly, but it doesn't fit in with our control scheme that we have for the game. We didn't want to inject a whole new aspect to the controls when we had spent so much time perfecting what we had.

Fucking jesus. Is it that hard to just give a straightforward answer that doesn't imply perfection?
 

suibhne

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Section8 said:
Fucking jesus. Is it that hard to just give a straightforward answer that doesn't imply perfection?

No kidding. He could've just said "the Sixaxis motion control capabilities are total bullshit, a me-too feature implemented poorly by Sony at the 11th hour". :wink:
 

Castanova

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Apparently, depending on you body position on the couch, the Sixaxis controller can think you're continually tilting it. One friend said he had to sit up straighter to get the game to stop bugging out. I do think the PS3 will come into its own eventually (in terms of public support) when developers figure out how to use the processor properly and the graphics become better than the 360.
 

Seboss

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Are you expecting Hines to break up under the EXTREME preshure the RPGCodex is putting on him and confess to the world that he is a big fat liar and that his best-selling product is basically an insult toward the RPG genre ?

We know Oblivion sucks and that Bethesda is a bullshit factory gone wrong (remembers me of Megatraveller 2). Oblivion bashing and Bethesda travesty exposing was funny for a while but now, please get over it.
 

suibhne

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Seboss said:
We know Oblivion sucks and that Bethesda is a bullshit factory gone wrong (remembers me of Megatraveller 2). Oblivion bashing and Bethesda travesty exposing was funny for a while but now, please get over it.

In all seriousness, would you prefer we simply stop covering Bethesda's presence in the industry and pretend they don't exist? Or should we treat them differently from all other developers and simply play the straight man every time we report on current news involving Bethesda?

I don't think we're exhuming Oblivion simply to re-flog it. The fact is that Bethesda continues to release O expansions and is working on Fallout 3; they're one of the biggest newsmakers in the North American RPG market.
 

Volourn

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"In all seriousness, would you prefer we simply stop covering Bethesda's presence in the industry and pretend they don't exist?"

No. Covering Bethesda is fine. Covering a yea rold game on, and on like Oblivion is silly. This is supposed to be ther NEWS section.

I'd say the same thing if you dragging up news posts about BIO games of yesteryear. Fine to post news about JE PC; but not so cool to post silly news about NWN or BG or whatever.

Post newsposts with Bethesda about FO3 since that's their new game. R00flers!

It's hialrious that people here wonder why a 'crappy' game like Oblivion can seel so much; but th e spam passing as news about oblivion here on Codex a place that supposedly loathes Oblivion illustrates why. Hell, you guts just did ANOTHER review of the game recently.

Gah.
 
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Even if it's news, It's still pretty close to spam, simply because it's... well... spam! If you're going to post news on a talentless, greedy and sloppy game company atleast add something that's more important then this. For fucks sake we've heard Pete spill out the same lies for atleast a 100 times now. Why is this so special?

I don't mind news on Bethesda or Oblivion, just make sure it's more important then this.


Fake Edit: Why the hell am I reading this?
 

serch

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Sure, bitching, moaning and whining won't change a thing in Bethesda. Even if they wanted to develop a cRPG, they couldn't. They, obviously, lack the talent. But, perhaps, showing once and again, and again that there is a public that is critic with the state of the industry will convince other developers of the existence of a niche of market that is ready for other kind of games.
 

themadhatter114

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If other gaming sites think that people are still interested in hearing what Pete Hines has to say, why shouldn't the Codex link to it?

If you have that big of a problem with people still posting 'news' about Oblivion, bitch at the other sites and tell them to stop interviewing Pete Hines and the Oblivion developers.
 

Seboss

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suibhne said:
In all seriousness, would you prefer we simply stop covering Bethesda's presence in the industry and pretend they don't exist? Or should we treat them differently from all other developers and simply play the straight man every time we report on current news involving Bethesda?

I don't think we're exhuming Oblivion simply to re-flog it. The fact is that Bethesda continues to release O expansions and is working on Fallout 3; they're one of the biggest newsmakers in the North American RPG market.
I agree completely. But like others said, there's nothing new in that article. Hines is just re-hashing the same bullshit he served us for the X360/PC release. We already know for sure that Oblivion for the PS3 is going to be 100% identical to the X360 version, and there is not a single word about Fallout 3 in that interview.
So yeah, I'd rather see the Codex ignore Bethesda from now on until some real news about Fallout 3 or the future of TES franchise rise up. But that's just me.
 

KazikluBey

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What I don't get is why the fuck all those sites are interested in what Pete Hines has to say. He's just a PR monkey, but they ask him questions about what he personally thinks about everything from the RPG market to cottage cheese like he was the second coming of Christ.
 

Vault Dweller

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A) He represents Bethesda and B) Pete's way more than a PR monkey in the Bethesda hierarchy.
 

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