Most overrated RPG on the codex - Elimination Poll

[sullynathan]

Gothic's combat does what it's intended to, which is still better than BGII. It successfully made a system where the player AND character have to be skilled to win a fight

Swinging your sword left - right isn't skill nor is picking up the nearest high damage weapon great showcase of character skill.

 

[deuxhero]

Killing any real threat without at least basic training in weapons is only possible with a huge power gap or the weakest enemies. Killing serious threats without higher level training requires good equipment/prep, really good player skill and/or cheese

 

[sullynathan]

Killing any real threat without at least basic training in weapons is only possible with a huge power gap or the weakest enemies. Killing serious threats without higher level training requires good equipment/prep, really good player skill and/or cheese

not great combat. This is super basic shit that doesn't play greatly. You get armor and have ridiculous defense, get good weapon and easily kill lower level enemies. You don't need to look further than the required dragon boss fights in Gothic 2 to see why this combat system sucks.

 

[deuxhero]

A handful of shit enemies is hardly something to judge the entire system on. Irrelevant anyways: The question was RPGs with better combat than BG2, not RPGs with great combat.

 

[sullynathan]

A handful of shit enemies is hardly something to judge the entire system on. Irrelevant anyways: The question was RPGs with better combat than BG2, not RPGs with great combat.

Gothic's combat isn't better than BG2, because it is shit and BG2's is not regardless of your dislike of RTW. There. The bosses in the game being shit are not a "handful of shit enemies". You can't ignore them, they are required as part of the experience of the game. If the game can't handle boss fights with its combat system, then it shows negatively of the games combat.

 

[deuxhero]

And RTWP can't handle any fights without being a clusterfuck where movement and positioning are effectively impossible.

 

[AwesomeButton]

And RTWP can't handle any fights without being a clusterfuck where movement and positioning are effectively impossible.

As long as the ruleset doesn't make every character into a high-maintainenance character (lots of buttons to click, lots of active abilities), and the complexity remains at the level of BGII at most, then RtwP can have a fun "casual" flow to it. But go the way of Deadfire/PoE, and you will have a strange Pause-with-some-realtime combat system, where the player has to mash the pause key with precision and combat is difficult to follow.