MW2 has the best mission ever

[ever]

I don't like the GTAs either and I never really did. Vice City and the Mafia game were cool but Vice City had a very cartoon portrayal of violence. It was more about the illegitimate high road not spreading terror and seeing innocent people crawl for life and beg for mercy. Same goes for Mafia. It wasn't about killing random civilians, it was just there for the realism.

For some people senselessly killing civilians in a video game is ok, for some playing the bad guy in kotor is ok.

For me it just isn't.

I mean I'm not crazy enough to say these games should be banned because that goes against my core values but it is kinda disappointing to see so many people with so much frustration in their angry hearts enjoying them.

I don't think it causes more violence or anything, I actually think it reduces it cause it gives people somehwere to vent.

 

[GarfunkeL]

It's just one level. Rest of the game has you fighting for the free world, as usual.

 

[Phelot]

Looks boring just like CoD4 single player. Syndicate was funner in the civilian massacre department.

Since there can't be any competitive multiplayer there is, or course no point of my buying it. FYI.

Also, I saw the commercial. Why are you in space?

 

[Forest Dweller]

I still don't see the difference between other games like GTA and this one.

The differrence is in GTA there is choice. That's it.

 

[Secretninja]

lol the game asks if you want to be offended when you turn it on.

 

[Slobbergoat]

I love the way civilians in the Airport see that there's a fucking elevator full of guys in business suits with massive lumps of kevlar body armor carrying squad machine guns and they don't even do anything until half of them and the security officers have been turned into flesh spongebobs.

Then throughout the rest of the terminal there are STILL civilians standing around doing nothing even though any reasonable unarmed person would probably respond to the sound of machinegun fire and screaming by running away in fucking terror.

 

[Hobbit Lord of Mordor]

hey, shit-for-brains, soldiers make a conscientious choice to fight. go hug a fucking tree. you're, like, not completely braindead for failing to realize that civilians are not people who are trying to kill you.

You understand that killing civilians in a video game for lulz can be fun because no one IRL is getting hurt. I think you shouldn't have a problem with killing fake civilians to tell a story, then (disregarding the possible quality).

If anything, you should be offended by games like GTA, SR, etc, because they let you kill civilians for lulz; not the other way around. In MW, that will probably be the only time you won't be shooting at "bad guys" (aka enemy soldiers and terrorists), and you're controlling a non lawful-good character, anyway. The game isn't stating that it's the right thing to do.

You're more or less playing as an anti-hero / villain, so claiming he's being a bad boy is being redundant.

You sick fuck.

Why don't YOU explain why aiming and shooting at what look like defenceless, terrified women, children and old men, who cannot fight back, and cannot escape for 3-4 minutes is "fun"? Also, did you touch yourself while watching that Youtube clip?

 

[MetalCraze]

Carmageddon has a very cartoonish portrayal of the violence, there is blood, guts and organs flying everywhere

Therefore it doesn't count - yay!
Flying organs and entrails are now cartoonish and unserious. But a small puddle of blood is dead siriuz. That's why Carmageddon was banned in much much much more countries than MW2 - because it was unserious I suppose?
Stop being a hypocrite, will you?

It doesn't attempt to capture the agony of death or the will to survive or the tragedy of the situation like CoD6 does.

Haha what the fuck? CoD6 doesn't do that - SoF does that.
And so what? The game is too hard to take because it shows terrorists how they are? Infinity Ward should take notes - give them flowers next time and let them give them to people while Inon Zur's music plays in the background and the narrator in the background tells you that the love saves the world. Then it will be ok!

Vice City and the Mafia game were cool but Vice City had a very cartoon portrayal of violence

GTA is not only Vice City. BTW in GTA3 you can shoot off hands and legs off of people and they run and shout in pain. And then there is GTA4 which is siriuz game. But lemme guess - it doesn't count too - it isn't siriuz.

Codex population is turning into such a bunch of fucking pussies these days.
I remember when back in the days game had gibs and the gamer could shout happily "ENTRAILZ!!!" when he was blowing up enemies in HL1 or UT to bits. But for today's morons it's too hard. Games must be a crappy fantasy without violence because they are siriuz biziness.

People who say that violence in games is siriuz biziness are morons like all those who blame Counter-Strike for everything. Pathetic.

Why don't YOU explain why aiming and shooting at what look like defenceless, terrified women, children and old men, who cannot fight back, and cannot escape for 3-4 minutes is "fun"?

Sheek you are such an idiot you know this? Oh gawd you totally can't kill her - she is a low-poly 3d model! Have mercy!

Sheek have you ever wondered why none of normal people projects CoD6 on real life? Maybe it isn't us who are sick fucks? Think on this plot twist

I love the way civilians in the Airport see that there's a fucking elevator full of guys in business suits with massive lumps of kevlar body armor carrying squad machine guns and they don't even do anything until half of them and the security officers have been turned into flesh spongebobs.

Then throughout the rest of the terminal there are STILL civilians standing around doing nothing even though any reasonable unarmed person would probably respond to the sound of machinegun fire and screaming by running away in fucking terror.

So does this mean that... CoD6 isn't siriuz!

 

[Bluebottle]

Modern Warfare 2's big attention-grabbing setpiece is a terrorist atrocity in an airport in which the player (taking the role of an undercover agent) reluctantly takes part. It's upsetting, chilling and horrifying.

You're supposed to be upset and chilled and horrified, of course – so on that level it succeeds. But if you must directly evoke the Mumbai massacre, it's probably best to do so with good reason. Since the rest of the game is effectively a dumb Tom Clancy romp (full of characters who say things like "I'll see you in hell"), it feels jarringly misplaced, like a cartoonish Bond movie containing a 20-minute scene in which Blofeld tortures his cat to death.

 

[am0k]

hey, shit-for-brains, soldiers make a conscientious choice to fight. go hug a fucking tree. you're, like, not completely braindead for failing to realize that civilians are not people who are trying to kill you.

You understand that killing civilians in a video game for lulz can be fun because no one IRL is getting hurt. I think you shouldn't have a problem with killing fake civilians to tell a story, then (disregarding the possible quality).

If anything, you should be offended by games like GTA, SR, etc, because they let you kill civilians for lulz; not the other way around. In MW, that will probably be the only time you won't be shooting at "bad guys" (aka enemy soldiers and terrorists), and you're controlling a non lawful-good character, anyway. The game isn't stating that it's the right thing to do.

You're more or less playing as an anti-hero / villain, so claiming he's being a bad boy is being redundant.

You sick fuck.

Why don't YOU explain why aiming and shooting at what look like defenceless, terrified women, children and old men, who cannot fight back, and cannot escape for 3-4 minutes is "fun"? Also, did you touch yourself while watching that Youtube clip?

You are such a silly little girl.

 

[Turisas]

Best part of the game, my only gripe is that it was too short.

 

[1eyedking]

Skyway's crusade against the stupidity that currently accosts the Codex is heart-warming; and painfully sad, yet. More should follow his example.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Why don't YOU explain why aiming and shooting at what look like defenceless, terrified women, children and old men, who cannot fight back, and cannot escape for 3-4 minutes is "fun"? Also, did you touch yourself while watching that Youtube clip?

Running over defenseless people in GTA is fun, though, because they yell funny obsceneties at you and the game has a cartoon feel and wwwwwwaaaaaggggghhh

r00fles!

It's fun because you can play a bad guy (what do you mean lol, it's my character so obviously he's the chosen one, lol!?!?!!?!?) without actually harming anyone. If you cannot see the difference between mercilessly killing virtual people and mercilessly killing real people you shouldn't be playing games at all.

And yes, I touched myself. Each innocent scream sent shivers down my spine. I finished by sploogin' all over my hand, and sniffing it.

It stinks of civilian blood. And that makes me...horny.

Btw, having sex is easy. Sheek doesn't like easy. Therefore, Sheek doesn't like sex. Therefore, Sheek is a virgin. Therefore, everything he says is retarded.

iceburn

 

[Konjad]

Modern Warfare 2's big attention-grabbing setpiece is a terrorist atrocity in an airport in which the player (taking the role of an undercover agent) reluctantly takes part. It's upsetting, chilling and horrifying.

You're supposed to be upset and chilled and horrified, of course – so on that level it succeeds. But if you must directly evoke the Mumbai massacre, it's probably best to do so with good reason. Since the rest of the game is effectively a dumb Tom Clancy romp (full of characters who say things like "I'll see you in hell"), it feels jarringly misplaced, like a cartoonish Bond movie containing a 20-minute scene in which Blofeld tortures his cat to death.

Perhaps they are just experimenting? How the people will react to something like this and if it is a good idea to put more of it in their next games? If people will say this mission is cool in general then it may be good for sales (especially because this mission happened to be 'attention whore') or if this will lead to bad opinion on the game they won't include anything like this anymore.

BTW I don't get all this mess about it - cool, you're a terrorist instead of american world-savior but is it really that bad? Actually I think it's cool to be someone else from time to time but whatever. I guess most players just prefer to play an lawful American.

 

[MetalCraze]

People are just fucking hypocrites - first they baaawww about overabundance of do-gooders and games being pussified and cartoonified and bitching about how you can't kill kids in Fallout 3 but when somebody makes a game which shows villains for what they are (not your muahahaha crap from Dragon Age) - and gives you a taste of that from the first row - retards baaaawww because polygons holding weapons and polygons not holding weapons start to matter.

I imagine if someone would've made a game which put you into boots of SS soldier retarded butthurt would've went off the scale. Because games must be about elven tree-huggers and magic and colourful world - that's why certain morons on the Codex call do-gooder cliche shit TW - a serious game with mature themes and (lol) "grey areas" which are always about "whether I save the world this way or that way" there.

I actually think it's a pity that CoD6 was done by someone as talentless as IW which can't do a good gameplay and this scene is there only for attention-whoring. But in talented hands this game would've been a nice change from terribly boring "american soldier saves the world". It is also features a bombed Washington (right?) that happens right here and right now which I also find a nice change from the generic invulnerable US.

 

[Boyarpunk]

Also, I saw the commercial. Why are you in space?

Space? Really???? In Call of Duty?
Oh for fuck's sake.

 

[mondblut]

Why don't YOU explain why aiming and shooting at what look like defenceless, terrified women, children and old men, who cannot fight back, and cannot escape for 3-4 minutes is "fun"?

Dunno, it makes me all excited and squeaky. Them not trying to escape properly is a disappointment though. I wish they'd behave more realistically, then I'd actually give a try to the game.

Also, did you touch yourself while watching that Youtube clip?

*blush* how did you know???

 

[DraQ]

Actually I think that's fucking awesome. I am, of course, something of a socialist (which outside of the US isn't a naughty word), so that might skew my views a bit. But mainly I'm for it because the censorship potential is outweighed by the possibility of this being the first few steps towards a regime of international crimes against gaming:

'Todd Howard, you stand accused of 3 counts of plagiarising greater works, 17 counts of throwing stupi...sorry, my error, the indictment is under section 17 and should read 'throwing RETARDED' content into games despite being fully aware that it would contradict the plot, and 1 count of franchise-rape. The franchise-rape's potential death sentence brings it outside the jurisdiction of this district court, and will need to be shifted to the Supreme Court. Arraignment hearing booked for 23 March 2011 on the franchise-rape count, the remainder can be remanded for 2 weeks before you must enter a plea. Next!'

2 counts of franchise rape. Another one being incestuous doesn't make it go away, you know, it only makes it even worse.

 

[1eyedking]

I imagine if someone would've made a game which put you into boots of SS soldier retarded butthurt would've went off the scale. Because games must be about elven tree-huggers and magic and colourful world - that's why certain morons on the Codex call do-gooder cliche shit TW - a serious game with mature themes and (lol) "grey areas" which are always about "whether I save the world this way or that way" there.

Except you don't save the world. The main conflict between humans and elves can't be avoided (you can only take sides, or not), and everything goes to shit eventually. You just want your witcher secrets to be left alone, revenge, and to prove the Wild Hunt wrong (or not).

Mind you, its C&C is mild when compared to stuff from Fallout or Arcanum, but still there are plenty of grey areas in The Witcher. Should a werewolf be killed or allowed its chance of redemption? Should a witch be burned, or the villagers who bought her concoctions? Who is worse then, he who buys or he who sells? Is the reverend a bastard for casting her daughter out, or the latter for being a whore? Is it better to lie and lead a life of deceit, or reveal the truth no matter what? Are the elves terrorists, or do they really have no other way against human encroachment? Are politics a necessary evil?

Are witchers the solution to the monster problem, or rather, the cause?

 

[Berekän]

So, yeah, it's not like any army ever has recruited by force any soldier! They're just braindead and blood-thirsty motherfuckers, right?

At least that's what your government tells you, right?

yep, thats clearly the type of soldiers this game (and most others) portray. yep, theres absolutely no difference in killing defenseless people and killing people because theyre trying to kill you. i'm surprised you've lived this long without having fucking killed yourself due to stupidity already.

So, we're discussing the morality of killing a innocent in a videogame, you can't kill innocent humans because, of course, it was meant to be realistic.

But on the other hand, if you shoot the enemy soldiers, you're a hero, because they're meant to be unrealistic, and no have sentiments at all.

So, it's the game realistic or unrealistic? Ah, hypocrisy...

Also:

Rasputin attacks Civilian.
Rasputin rolls dice (1d6)
Throw results: 6
Rasputin hits Civilian
Civilian dies.

OMG! He just killed a Civilian! PnP RPG's are THE EVIL!!

 

[ever]

Dear Metalcraze,

Are you so sociopathic as to not be able to tell the difference between the portrayal of an alien devouring a human scientist with his innards flying around everywhere in an overthetop shock gore fashion and an innocent woman pleading and crying while you shoot her and then watch her crawl for life before shooting her again?

Do you really equate these two things?

Is running over a very crude depiction of a pedestrian with a huge red car with spikes and seeing an exaggerated splatter really the same as slowly walking through an airport mowing down hundreds of people while cower in fear hoping to stay alive at your mercy?

I mean would seeing the blood and guts of a demonic alien spraying around everywhere really be the same as some game where you walked into a family home with a gun and saw the husband beg you to not kill his family while the wife cries and the children look scared, confused and distressed and as you mow them down they try to cling on to life?

 

[ever]

And what grey area?

Since when was killing completely innocent people a grey area?

 

[Turisas]

some game where you walked into a family home with a gun and saw the husband beg you to not kill his family while the wife cries and the children look scared, confused and distressed and as you mow them down they try to cling on to life?

Would they drop good loot?

:smugcodex:

 

[Darth Roxor]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT, YOU'RE KILLING INNOCENT 3D MODELS, HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH YOURSELF

 

[ever]

No its not how can you live with yourself its can you really not see a difference between the situations?

Is there like nothing in your heads that tells you hey you know what seeing an alien explode with blood guts and stuff like that is cool, hey its even cool when its the bad guy, hell its even cool when its some random dude on the corner but you know what? Is not cool if they start crying and asking for me not to kill them, and telling me that their family needs them and that you know its all pretty realistic.

Or is this something you don't have

 

[mondblut]

some game where you walked into a family home with a gun and saw the husband beg you to not kill his family while the wife cries and the children look scared, confused and distressed and as you mow them down they try to cling on to life?

Aaaarrrrgh download link, link please, oh god its heavan!!!!